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Solid Snake 09-22-12 02:08 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
I really liked SC. BUT...it's a bit weak in the story. It's not bad...no..it's pretty good...but I wasn't surprised I guess in it's story. And yeah...the ending is a weak, not bad..just.well...telegraphed.

DonnachaOne 09-23-12 08:14 AM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
I loved Source Code. It was one of my favorites of last year.

Dr. DVD 09-23-12 09:35 AM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
I look forward to this movie, but I have a friend who knows he won't like it because he finds the premise preposterous. He thinks there's no way in the future people can't find other ways to dispose of bodies they don't want found aside from sending them back through time.

Jules Winfield 09-23-12 10:00 AM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 11334203)
fixed

You didn't fix anything. You just his statement completely wrong.-screwy-

Jules Winfield 09-23-12 10:03 AM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11334268)
Brick was great and The Brothers Bloom was decent.

I probably won't see this though. I saw an interview with Johnson where he said he wrote the part for Gordon Levitt and then Bruce Willis became available and he couldn't turn down the opportunity to work with him. So that explains a whole lot.

That doesn't explain anything. I'm gonna need an explanation.

PopcornTreeCt 09-23-12 10:57 AM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
It means that Johnson wrote this for JGL and then Bruce Willis expressed interest in the project and the studio heads said hey if you don't put Willis in this, you have no movie. So Johnson said, okay, but I have no idea how this will work because JGL looks nothing like Bruce Willis. So the studio head guy said, make it work or no movie! So Johnson attempted to make it work. The end.

Jules Winfield 09-23-12 11:41 AM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11395928)
It means that Johnson wrote this for JGL and then Bruce Willis expressed interest in the project and the studio heads said hey if you don't put Willis in this, you have no movie. So Johnson said, okay, but I have no idea how this will work because JGL looks nothing like Bruce Willis. So the studio head guy said, make it work or no movie! So Johnson attempted to make it work. The end.

So, are you saying that you won't see it because Rian Johnson was forced to use Bruce Willis? Or forced to compromise his vision to fit an actor he didn't want? As long as he got the guy he wrote the part for, I don't see a problem. Some directors I'm sure don't even get that. That's part of film making. Making the movie work despite obstacles and setbacks that may come along. Directors that have gotten everything they wanted have had those movies be shitty and movies that have made tons of compromises have turned out great. This movie looks great and I hope it is.

PopcornTreeCt 09-23-12 12:02 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
I just can't buy JGL as a young Willis. If this movie turns out to be mind blowingly epic then I'll check it out but as of now I'll wait for Redbox.

adamblast 09-23-12 12:43 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
Hell, I could buy JGL as a young Sigourney Weaver if the rest of the script is right.

2 actors playing the same character at different ages very *rarely* look plausibly alike.

They should never have even tried to make them more similar thru special effects--that was the mistake. I'm very reluctant to give a shit about a movie starring JGL with a fake face we're not supposed to notice.

TomOpus 09-23-12 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11395956)
That's part of film making. Making the movie work despite obstacles and setbacks that may come along.

And this is why "Jaws" became a great movie.

adamblast 09-23-12 01:10 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11395864)
I look forward to this movie, but I have a friend who knows he won't like it because he finds the premise preposterous. He thinks there's no way in the future people can't find other ways to dispose of bodies they don't want found aside from sending them back through time.

Well, good movies have been made from dumber ideas, but your friend's not wrong. Of all the things time travel could be used for, the notion that it's mostly a murdered body disposal system is pretty weak and random.

PenguinJoe 09-23-12 01:17 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 11395795)
I loved Source Code. It was one of my favorites of last year.

I hated that movie and I hate how every thriller/horror movie uses the 6th Sense twist ending now.

Cellar Door 09-23-12 02:17 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by adamblast (Post 11396031)
They should never have even tried to make them more similar thru special effects--that was the mistake.

I agree with this. There's really no need for it. Audiences are very used to suspending disbelief for the situation of two different actors playing the same character at different times in their life. I've never really liked it when they put "old age" makeup on a young person to show them later in life (like Winona Ryder at the end of Edward Scissorhands). Just hire an older actor to play them at that age.

That said, I'm looking forward to this movie and I don't expect the makeup on JGL to really bother me.

Jules Winfield 09-23-12 02:33 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
I was bothered by the Bruce Willis makeup at first but have grown to dig it. They usually do cast any actor they want and just kinda shoo it away and say this actor is this other actor but younger and let the audience deal with it. Haven't seen a younger actor put on prosthetics too many times to look like a younger version of a well know older actor so think it's pretty novel.

Troy Stiffler 09-23-12 03:04 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11395864)
I look forward to this movie, but I have a friend who knows he won't like it because he finds the premise preposterous. He thinks there's no way in the future people can't find other ways to dispose of bodies they don't want found aside from sending them back through time.

Haha. I remember that there were people on this forum who had a similar compaint about Inception.

Dr. DVD 09-23-12 03:08 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 11396263)
Haha. I remember that there were people on this forum who had a similar compaint about Inception.

FWIW, while he overall liked Inception, he found that movie's plot rather out there as well.

JumpCutz 09-23-12 04:47 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
The JGL visual manipulation looks ridiculous. What were they thinking. :lol:
I just laugh every time I see the trailer or TV spot.

DonnachaOne 09-23-12 09:43 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by PenguinJoe (Post 11396074)
I hated that movie and I hate how every thriller/horror movie uses the Carnival of Souls twist ending now.

Fixed. As long as we're being preposterous, we may as well be correct.

JumpCutz 09-23-12 09:51 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 11396914)
Fixed. As long as we're being preposterous, we may as well be correct.

:thumbsup:

fumanstan 09-24-12 03:30 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by JumpCutz (Post 11396494)
The JGL visual manipulation looks ridiculous. What were they thinking. :lol:
I just laugh every time I see the trailer or TV spot.

I think it looks pretty good :shrug:

PenguinJoe 09-24-12 05:03 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 11396914)
Fixed. As long as we're being preposterous, we may as well be correct.

I've never seen Carnival of Souls. I guess I know the ending now.

Jules Winfield 09-24-12 05:56 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by PenguinJoe (Post 11397923)
I've never seen Carnival of Souls. I guess I know the ending now.

I always found it odd that Bruce Willis popped up out of nowhere at the end of Carnival of Souls. The twist ending works a lot better in The Sixth Sense since they established Bruce's character previously.

DonnachaOne 09-24-12 09:10 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11398004)
I always found it odd that Bruce Willis popped up out of nowhere at the end of Carnival of Souls.

You thought that was odd? I thought it silly that water could kill the carnival.

Troy Stiffler 09-24-12 09:13 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
Anyone remember when Johnson said that he was making a "spiritual sequel to Blade Runner". I just remembered that. That'd be cool if it's all poetic and shit. But I'm not seeing it from the trailers. I wonder if there was a grander vision in the begining.

Osiris3657 09-24-12 09:40 PM

Re: Looper (Rian Johnson, 2010): "violent and dark" sci-fi
 
All the reviews I've seen say it's a very tight, clever script.


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