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Yeah. It ends w/ Bats here...and whatever that means exactly. The marketing and Nolan's multiple times of saying it can't be clear enough. His Bats ends here. That's how I would prefer it as well.

You have it end w/ someone else taking over the mantle..well...then...wtf does that mean for the JLA friendly Batman? Etc etc etc. Considering we know where they're heading w/ it.

who cares if it doesn't excite you as long as it tells a damn good story? If it tells a better story..then tell it. I NORMALLY would not want my Batman to die..but...if he died here? I'd be game for it. If he does or doesn't...I don't know. if it tells a better story...then go ahead and do it.

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Also, this film trilogy is not being used to set up another movie, just like the Burton / Schumacher movies have nothing at all to do with the Nolan trilogy.

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Just because someone else becomes Batman doesn't make it any less of an end to the "Bruce Wayne" trilogy. Like in Star Wars, IV-VI is the "Luke Skywalker" trilogy even though the story can obviously continue on with the New Republic. The "Luke Skywalker" trilogy however was finished with VI. Same thing with Nolan's Batman. Just because something may perhaps be set up to continue on does not make it any less an ending to the "Bruce Wayne" trilogy.

They have already said the next Batman film will be something of a reboot that will become part of the Justice League film franchise. Supposedly it won't be a complete reboot with new origin story and all that, but it will take place within the second or third year of Batman's career.

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This isn't the comics, and it's not Star Wars, and it's not some spinoff with comic / novel sequels and if anyone does that with this Batman it's not part of Nolan's films.

Rather than comparing it to the comics or other movies, I'm going solely by what these movies have shown so far, and what we know of this final one, in addition to everything Nolan has been saying over the years about all three.

This is the end, and that you're even disputing that makes it seem like you're looking for an argument for argument's sake.

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Next one can be a Batman Beyond movie with Christian Bale in makeup

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Given the "dark" mindset for Justice League, you're not gonna get your wish.

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I guess it's true with lines like "The Legend Ends" that maybe we can expect to not see someone else take up the Batman mantle. The only thing I can guess then is that Bruce just steps down for good. To me killing him off just seems too extreme and not that Nolan wouldn't do it but I'd have to wonder if he really wants to be known as the director who killed off Batman. I guess personally I don't really want him dying to happen either. I'm sure either way though Nolan will do justice to the story he's telling and make it great. Seems like he may have already achieved something that a lot of people thought he wouldn't with making a sequel that's as good or better than The Dark Knight if early reviews are any indication.

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Just wondering but do we still have people here believe we've seen bits of JGL as Bats in here? Cuz I'd like to know if that still holds true..for the visual at least. It could happen..but we haven't seen anything to prove it.

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:lol:

You're the one acting all stubborn like you know for certain what is going to happen and nothing will change your mind.

I'm not trying to argue. I'm just keeping an open mind about what may happen. Nolan may throw a curveball you know. It wouldn't be the first time. Bruce may or may not be crippled or die. Someone else may or may not become Batman. Who knows. I don't know, and you certainly don't know either.

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Until I see some footage of a JL movie, I believe it when I see it. No need to bring up hypotheticals.

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The difference is I'm going by what the films have presented as well as Nolan's comments so far, and you are going by other movies which have nothing to do with this, and the comics which are full of characters these films haven't included at all.

Speaking of Nolan:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...h_a2e910c6.jpg

Here it is:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...h_00fb1411.jpg

Bale, Hathaway, JGL, Oldman, Caine, Freeman, Jonathan Nolan and Hans Zimmer were there among the celebrity guests for it.

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Well the tone of the reboot would be hypothetical as well. My point in bringing it up is that, if WB are genuine with wanting to keep their properties "dark", a more "fun" approach to Batman is unlikely.

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I posted this http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11267398-post84.html over on the Justice League thread about a month or so ago. It is essentially the tentative plans for the "Justice League cinematic universe." DC wants to distinguish it from the "Avengers cinematic universe" by making it less colorful and bright. Of course, those are just tentative plans, so a lot of it will probably change, but I doubt the part about differentiating it from Avengers will change.


You're also completely ignoring the John Blake character. A lot of people suspect he may become Batman. Sure he may not, but nobody really knows yet.

It does seem incredibly odd though that his character is getting a lot of publicity for what may just amount to "some random street cop." Jean (as in Jean Paul Valley from the comics who took over as Batman in Knightfall) is the same name as John as well, just spelled differently, and of course they wouldn't actually use the name Jean Paul Valley in the movie or else it would be too obvious what was going to happen.

Maybe its all just a red herring, but nobody will know for certain until the movie is released.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say you are going by Nolan's comments. Does that mean Nolan says he isn't going to kill or cripple Batman, and you automatically take it at face value? Well, its not like he is going to spoil the ending of his own movie...

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Interesting, I hadn't seen that before. I would move WW and Flash up to 2015, than do Batman and JL in 2016. I like the idea of Superman "officially" starting it, and keeping Reynolds' GL in JL, but having no more solo films.

Wouldn't mind JGL as 'the batman', as long as he bulked up...and it'd keep Nolan's films connected to the series at least. (depending on what happens in TDKR of course..)

WB does have a nice roster of established directors to choose from, which is an advantage. Marvel keeps surprising us, which so far has worked, but I'm not as confident in the next round of directors.

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Given how the first two films went I don't see how BW's death could be a good story AT ALL.

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Which is a good idea IMO. We don't need another origin film. Hell, they can do flashbacks if they want similar to how Mask of the Phantasm told his back story.

BTW, I have no problem with "dark" Batman material. I'm just kinda hoping they open up the possibility of having any villain from his rogues gallery at any time. I don't want a copycat of Nolan's universe.

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I've never read or heard Nolan mention anything regarding what happens to Batman or even the idea of killing him.

I have seen and read him say many times that this is all about Bruce Wayne and his life as Batman, and to throw in some replacement flies directly in the face of what is going to be a definitive end to this specific trilogy.

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Mountain Dew's "DewGothamCity" has this featurette on its site:



Extended behind-the-scenes featurette:

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If this movie features more seeking redemption like the others i'm going to split!

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didn't someone say the exact thing earlier? I've got Deja vu here.

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I demand that Bruce turns douchebag and vacations in Vegas.

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I still think it might be cool if Batman and Bane fight 3 times. The first is when he breaks Bruce's back. The second would be the scene with the broken mask. In that fight he actually kills Batman, but when the mask breaks we find out it was really John Blake. Then the third fight is Bruce's rise and defeat of Bane.


Anyway, I know who really takes over as Batman, since there was a leaked photo:

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Yep, definately looks like JGL under the cowl.;)

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Guess he is really playing Robin. :D

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The movie premiere on July 15 in Vermont. I would see it on that day, but I am going to watch a marathon of all three movies on opening day in another theater across town.