Movies Ruined By Their Sequel (or Prequels)
02-07-08, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselsDen
As much as I respect THE GODFATHER PART III, I do agree with your observations. At the end of II, he shuns Kay and restricts visitation with the kids due to her betrayal. Yet, at the beginning of III, we find he's entrusted her to raise them.
As another poster pointed out, yes, the film is about redemption and paying for one's sins. But the transition between the two sequels is a bit jarring and lessens the impact of II where Michael has become a hollow man.
I really despised the way the Connie character was given such a big role in the movie. I know that without the Tom Hagen character we needed someone else, but the whole matronly Black Widow act (as you so rightfully described) was a bit much.
That being said, I think that GODFATHER III is an excellent movie and a fitting conclusion to the Best American movie series ever made.
As another poster pointed out, yes, the film is about redemption and paying for one's sins. But the transition between the two sequels is a bit jarring and lessens the impact of II where Michael has become a hollow man.
I really despised the way the Connie character was given such a big role in the movie. I know that without the Tom Hagen character we needed someone else, but the whole matronly Black Widow act (as you so rightfully described) was a bit much.
That being said, I think that GODFATHER III is an excellent movie and a fitting conclusion to the Best American movie series ever made.
02-07-08, 03:10 PM
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yes, see, now we're thinking 
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.I'd rant about how the 2nd Austin Powers movie ruins the first, but I've ignored both sequels for years. Saw the 2nd, hated it and never bothered to see the 3rd.
02-07-08, 03:17 PM
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I know Spidey 3 has been mentioned already a couple of times, but I feel the need to stress it yet again. That wretched abortion was so bad, I have yet to watch either the first or second since, and I can't fathom when I will be ready to do so. The whole time I will just constantly be thinking about how terrible the third movie is and how not only did it squander the potential built up in 2, it decided a tangential jaunt into farce and camp was a better use of its already jamp-packed run time. Disgusting attempt at a movie.
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02-07-08, 03:59 PM
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I agree with what's been said about each film standing on it's own, but just to play along: Terminator 3. Mediocre film that opened the gate for more sequels.
02-07-08, 04:13 PM
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To be fair about 2010 and 2001, Clarke's novels were always more explicit about what was going on the movie. I read the book, hated what did it to the movie, and still don't like to think it exists..or 2010 for that matter.
02-07-08, 04:29 PM
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I agree, for the most part, with the people saying that each movie stands on its own, but sometimes, just sometimes, this type of compartmentalization is impossible. It's kind of hard to take the scary Michael Myers of the original Halloween as seriously as I used to because, as hard as I try, I just can't wipe my mind of the same Myers character catching a karate kick in the chest from Busta Rhymes. It's kind of guilt-by-association.
02-07-08, 04:37 PM
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Yep, Nightmare on Elm Street is a great example of not only a franchise being run into the ground, but taking away the power of the first one. Although in that case, it is not the intrinsic explanation (i.e. in movie explanation), but rather just the character becoming lame.
I literally could not sleep for a few days after watching the first one when I was a kid and it came on TV. When the sequels started coming out and became lamer and lamer, the scariness of the first one just kinda disappeared.
The last Nightmare did a good job of trying to salvage the series, but it still doesn't recoup the scariness of the first one.
I literally could not sleep for a few days after watching the first one when I was a kid and it came on TV. When the sequels started coming out and became lamer and lamer, the scariness of the first one just kinda disappeared.
The last Nightmare did a good job of trying to salvage the series, but it still doesn't recoup the scariness of the first one.
02-07-08, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by awil1026
I agree with what's been said about each film standing on it's own, but just to play along: Terminator 3. Mediocre film that opened the gate for more sequels.
Plus the ending of T3 has a very nice T1 type of ending, so I almost feel the end vibes with the first one.
Sure T3 is silly, but T2 started going that way anyway, so I don't hold it against it so much.
03-05-08, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by matome
I wouldn't say that a crappy sequel has ever ruined my feelings toward the original, but The Cutting Edge 2, didn't do any favors for it, and I would imagine much less so for The Cutting Edge 3!
I can think of a lot of sequels that i didnt like as much as the first but none that actually ruined the original..ill keep thinking though
