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Old 02-09-08 | 05:08 AM
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chris_sc77, you should check out Cloverfield, It's incredible.
I will when it comes to DVD. I wont pay more than $1 to see an 80 minute long PG-13 movie.
Old 02-09-08 | 11:01 AM
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I was hyped until the trailer gave away the twist.
Old 02-09-08 | 11:05 AM
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I was hyped until the trailer gave away the twist.
And you know for a fact that it isn't covered in the first 5 minutes?
Old 02-09-08 | 12:02 PM
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Of course not...I was just kinda hoping that this would be a straight up "whodunit" not a government conspiracy or cover up. I'm still going to see it nonetheless.
Old 02-10-08 | 08:34 PM
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At first I kind of wanted to see this. But after being forced to sit through that shitty, cliched trailer a hundred times, I've decided against it.

Who exactly are the marketing douche bags that though showing the EXACT SAME TRAILER in front of EVERY SINGLE MOVIE was a good idea?

Typically, when a studio wants to bombard moviegoers with ads for one film, they try and mix things up a bit. They'll start things off with a teaser trailer and then there might be two or three full trailers. Sometimes the different trailers will emphasize different aspects of the movie, etc.

But with Vantage Point, someone along the line said: "We're just going to have one trailer, and we'll show it in front of every movie that gets released in the next twelve months. That'll mean big $$$."

Well, there's at least one person that would have gone to see it, but now specifically will not see it because of this idiotic marketing. It's too bad. It might actually be a good movie.
My feelings exactly. I'm not gonna see it out of spite now, trailor makes me laugh every time I see it now.
Old 02-15-08 | 11:22 PM
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I liked it better when it was called Rashomon.
Old 02-22-08 | 01:49 PM
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This was not entirely a bad film. As an actioner, I enjoyed it more than Jumper but I doubt I will ever need to see it again. Entertaining for most of its 90 minutes, it does its job, but just adequately. The idea of seeing the story over and over from different viewpoints starts to get old and the movie becomes fresh again once all the pieces are put together and we're back into a conventional narrative. A mild recommendation, I would put this slightly lower than comparable fare from last year like Shooter.
Old 02-22-08 | 02:10 PM
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I seen this last night, strictly a popcorn flick. It starts off well, but the over the top improbabilities start to stack up rather quickly.
Old 02-23-08 | 08:54 AM
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I saw it last night and quite enjoyed it. There are twists in the film that are not in the trailer.

I like how the movie came full circle from all of the different points of view.

The only thing that bothered me was the audience:

Spoiler:
Everytime they ran the clock back to 12:00 PM, the audience moaned and started to talk trash to the screen. When it happened for the 6th time, they started laughing. One person even yelled, "What kind of stupid movie is this!?"

That pissed me off.

I had a feeling they would rewind the clock several times, so I figured I knew what I was in for...

but when the movie got to the car chase, everyone was cheering Dennis Quaid on... and forgot about the "rewinds."


I would like to see it again...

... but I did one one major problem:

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WTH is up with Forrest Whitaker's left eye?
Old 02-23-08 | 10:20 AM
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I caught this last night. I was pretty excited going in, but I've got to agree that the rewinding became a hideous chore by the last one. I thought there would be more like 3 20-minute rewind cuts, not 6 10-minute sections. It felt a lot to me like a TV show instead of a movie, but it did get going at the end. I guess I'll spoiler my biggest problem:
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Ok, so they're going to make you sit through about 10 minutes of events you've already seen from a different perspective, I get that and knew it coming in. But why in the HELL did they have to end each one on a cliffhanger? If they actually would have shown me the last piece of the section (what Quaid saw on the TV tape, the girl and the ambulance, etc...) I might have been more excited to see it again with new knowledge. The way that they did it, the knowledge added in the restarts was useless until they tied it in at the end. They made their own gimmick entirely useless by trying to artificially add suspense, and instead it just pissed me off.
Old 02-23-08 | 01:22 PM
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I did not care for this movie. The idea was there, but the execution was poor. I didn't mind the rewind and different view points (that made it unique). But the characters and motivation were weak and ill conceived. The car chase sequence was unending and poorly done when compared to The Bourne Identity (which it looked to be emulating). There were just too many coincidences and stupid character actions. It wasn't boring and was fairly well shot, however. There were actually some people in the theater who clapped at the end (can't figure out if it was sarcastic or genuine clapping though). I'm sure there will be people out there that enjoy this movie, but there was just too much going against it for me to recommend.


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Ok, I've got some major gripes with a movie that's hinting at some kind of realism:

Uhh, couldn't Matthew Fox's character have just left the scene in his regular getup instead of masquerading as a Spanish police officer? What was the point again?

For a highly trained special forces guy, that dude sure did succumb to blackmail easily. So I guess I'll kill a whole bunch of innocent people & kidnap the President to get my brother back, as opposed to trying to find my brother and kill the people who took him. Highly trained!

I wish they would have explained to us the purpose of the Presidential kidnap plot (money?, demands?). It seemed like a lame-brained idea to keep the story going. I have a feeling it was just to create a gimmick, and that they had no real answer.

What was the purpose of the explosion in the courtyard? Seemed to serve no purpose whatsoever (except to have a huge explosion)

Did we really need a lost little girl in this movie? Poor writing. A prime example of writing a film around a gimmick and not having a clear idea about what to do next.

I like how the mother of the little girl is searching for her lost girl about a mile away from where she lost her (across multiple lanes of traffic).

The main terrorist driving the ambulance just killed hundreds of people with bombs and guns, but if a little girl is in the road he's gonna swerve to keep from hitting her?

The end when Dennis Quaid holds the president and says "I've got you Mr. President". I thought they were gonna kiss.
Old 02-23-08 | 04:23 PM
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One of the teens sitting next to me kept asking his friends what a "potus" was.

Old 02-23-08 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Goldberg74
One of the teens sitting next to me kept asking his friends what a "potus" was.



That is awesome. I guess POTUS 08 on XM would confuse the hell out of them.
Old 02-23-08 | 08:15 PM
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"Vantage Point" is an action thriller taking its cues from Rashomon and Groundhog Day, where we see the assassination of the US President through the eyes of different characters at a peace summit in Spain. The problem is that its chief conceit causes unintended comedy as the vignettes keep restarting through each main character's point of view, and audience will laugh at each transistion once they get the rhythm of the story's framework.

Character development is nil, as the various characters are pretty much cardboard cutouts, existing only because they are needed on a perfunctory basis for the box-within-a-box storytelling exercise that's the main focus of the film. The finale is so over-the-top, over-cooked, and over-wrought, it produced even more unintended laughter from the audience through its sheer audacity and panache, while pandering to the poor screenwriter's use of extreme coincidence to tidy everything up.

I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
Old 02-23-08 | 09:20 PM
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I rate it a little higher than Patman however I certainly don't give it high marks overall. The intrigue, action and pace kept things moving and interesting for me. I liked the pace far better than Babel which seemed endless to me. I kept begging the movie to move on to the next next segment. This movie moved quickly, maybe too quickly because my audience also chuckled at the clock resetting.

The only real trouble I had with the movie was the extreme way it asked you park your brain at the door. During a movie like this you need to suspend your common sense and disbelief, however Vantage Point asks you to forget you ever had any.

Spoiler:
Secret Service are not easily pulled off the floor where the President is. There job is defensive, they don't run to help out, they stay and protect the President for just the reason shown in the movie. Then there is the rogue agent which is tough to pull off. He should have been there ordering them off their detail that would have been more believable.


I'm a little more generous with a C+, a B+ for the action, a D for common snese.
Old 02-24-08 | 08:51 PM
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I caught this today and I also would give it a C+.

The audience in the theatre were started moaning and getting really annoyed everytime the clock reset. I understand what they were trying to do with each new perspective and clues, but I think it could have been executed a little better. I think adding a graphic to introduce each character would have helped. Ex. Howard Turner: American Tourist. There were alot of plot holes that left me puzzled.

Some of them include:

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The Spanish Cop: I don't understand his involvement. He was being used by his girlfriend to deliver the bomb, but later woke up and realized what he was doing was wrong?

The Unwilling Terrorist/POTUS Kidnapper: Was his brother the man that was killed by the Spanish Cop's girlfriend? So this special forces guy is willing to murder hundreds of innocent people just to get back his brother?

Matthew Fox: The reveal at the end was surprising, but I don't understand his motive. They never gave any setup/indication why he was willing to kill to kidnap the POTUS.

The Kidnapping Plot: What was the point of it?

Old 02-24-08 | 09:52 PM
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I give the movie an 8 out of 10. I really enjoyed the repeating of the scenes with different vantage points. That was the main appeal to see this movie for me. I may be a little bias since my favorite movie is Groundhog Day. Some of the scenes may seem a little unbelievable, but I am blessed with a great ability to suspend belief while watching movies. I don't watch movies to see what could happen in real life, I watch movies to see what could happen in someones imagination. The one lame part of the movie for me was the car chase scene. I actually started daydreaming about something else because the car chase scene was so long.

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Old 02-24-08 | 10:36 PM
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What a horrible movie. I was expecting a lot out of it, but because of the plot holes mentioned above, I found myself laughing most of the movie.

I liked the car chase, which is the one redeeming quality for me.

3/10.

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Old 02-24-08 | 10:51 PM
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It was fun and intense, but not necessarily "good." Probably will not buy.
Old 02-25-08 | 02:10 AM
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Just got back from this and ugggghhhh.... not a good movie at all. By about the 3rd point I was bored off my ass. Very uninteresting, unsuspenceful and just plain boring. I like most of the cast too.
As mentioned, movie goers in the theater got tired of the whole clock rewind thing.
Old 02-25-08 | 06:40 AM
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wow, lots of hate for this movie. I liked it alot. Fast paced and kept me guessing. I'm a big fan of Quaid so all was good.
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Originally Posted by Goldberg74
I saw it last night and quite enjoyed it. There are twists in the film that are not in the trailer.

I like how the movie came full circle from all of the different points of view.

The only thing that bothered me was the audience:

Spoiler:
Everytime they ran the clock back to 12:00 PM, the audience moaned and started to talk trash to the screen. When it happened for the 6th time, they started laughing. One person even yelled, "What kind of stupid movie is this!?"

That pissed me off.

I had a feeling they would rewind the clock several times, so I figured I knew what I was in for...

but when the movie got to the car chase, everyone was cheering Dennis Quaid on... and forgot about the "rewinds."
same thing happened in my audience...sounds like we were in the exact same theater.

these people are idiots - did they not realize that was the entire point of the movie? thats what made it different from other movies. they started complaining and laughing everytime...fucking idiots. next time stay home.

one question...

Spoiler:
btw; the one story line i didnt get was the spanish police guy - how did he get set up? didnt he hand the bomb to the girl?
Old 02-25-08 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by atari2600
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btw; the one story line i didnt get was the spanish police guy - how did he get set up? didnt he hand the bomb to the girl?
I don't think he knew what was happening.
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He just got her bag and she knew that it would pass through the metal detectors since he was a cop. Still weird that they wouldn't scan the bag or anything.
Old 07-02-08 | 06:36 AM
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Just saw it last night, thought it was mediocre
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Kept wishing for some explanation of why they were kidnapping the president.

As someone said above I wish they didn't end every point of view at a cliffhanger. I think it would have added a lot to the movie by showing the ambulance crash scene play out and cut away once you see the president is inside. And then we go back and eventually see how he wound up there and why.

Old 07-05-08 | 09:18 AM
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I just saw it also. My question -- what did Forest see in the window? It looked like he saw someone, but
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I thought everything was controlled by the lead terrorist's PDA ?


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