You think Scream is the Best Horror film series of All-Time.

Well the only good thing that could come out of Scream 4 is a new edition of Scream on DVD.

Craven was executive producer on The Breed and Feast. Whether they sucked or not didn't have all that much to do with him.

And like riotinmyskull said, if they went downhill after the first, how could it possibly be the best horror series of all time? How many horror flicks have you seen...12?

Surprised no one has commented on the OP calling Scream the being the best horror series of all-time.

Cursed may have sucked, but it seems to have been as much Dimension's fault as Craven's. The R rated version of it sounded a lot more entertaining, given enough money to make it properly, but Dimension wanted a cheap PG-13 tween horror flick. Gross.

Agreed. I would actually look forward to it if that crew was back on it.

how is the entire Scream series remotely the best horror series of all time?

Ok I just really like it okay so I'm guessing you're favorite films are The Godfather right. Well I like mine and you like you're and personally I think the Godfather sucked but hey its our decisions so leave it alone. And no I haven't seen 12 horror films I own over 500 and thats only a fraction of what I've seen. Do you want me to start naming my collection out cause I will

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OK now that I got *THAT* out of my system... creatively, of course it's an idiotic decision. The SCREAM movies were never that good to begin with, the first was a clever gimmick (although a mediocre movie) that championed the self-aware meta-horror-cliche genre, but unfortunately spawned a HORDE of copycats that only regurgitated the superficial elements of the original and failed to realize that they were in fact becoming that brand of generically awful horror movies that "Scream" parodied in the first place.

"Scream 2" was bloody freakin' awful -- trite, predictable, self-conscious and belabored -- and I have yet to find anyone who found any words better than "turdburger" to describe the third.

So why bother with a fourth?

$$$

It's a brand. Guaranteed at LEAST $40mill in the till, especially if it's around Halloween. Keep the budget low, drop the original cast, director, and writer and stick in a bunch of fresh-faced unknowns. Grab a director with ZERO talent but will do everything the studio asks him to do and then some. A cash grab. Why not? It's a business.

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If Scream isn't the best horror series of all time then what is? Halloween -- the original is great. The series sucks. Friday the 13th series sucks. Nightmare on Elm Street sucks. Hellraiser sucks. Child's Play sucks.

I can't disagree about Scream being the best... because it's no better/worse than every other horror series.

Romero's Deads or the Evil Deads

Actually, I think most of the series you mentioned are better than the Scream series. Yes there are several duds in each, but overall better than the Screams :shrug:

..from the Dark Knight Blu-Ray thread

I'd argue the Saw franchise is much better than "Scream"... and I'm not the biggest fan. Or even the early cycle of Romero's "Living Dead" films. Or the Peter Cushing "Frankenstein" films.

Most "horror series" usually consist of one (MAYBE two) really good-to-great film and a WHOLE lot of subpar shit. Halloween, Nightmare on Elm St., Friday the 13th, Hellraiser, Exorcist, Saw, Blair Witch, Night of the Living/Dawn of the Dead, etc. The "Scream" films never even had that one definitely GREAT movie. Influential? Sure. Good? No way. Greatest of all time? Not even close.

as mentioned and also:
Romero "Dead" series
"Evil Dead" series
"Alien" series
"Sympathy For" (Trilogy)
"Nightmare on Elm" series
"Blade" series
"Friday" (def has more than a couple gems)

Wes Craven didn't direct "The Breed" or "Feast".

Shut up, your one of them Godfather lovers right? :mad:

The original film is great and very entertaining. The two sequels were pretty disappointing. So I think a fourth film is a bad idea and I am not interested in it being made.

I know Ice Cube is a terrible actor, but calling that series 'horror' is a bit of stretch (and it certainly doesn't have any gems) ;)

Back on topic a bit...I won't mind Scream 4 if somehow David Arquette's character meets some kind of violent death very early in the film.

Ok I'll admit there are probabily some horror series out there better than Scream but it's just a personal preference. Scream just fits everything it isn't way over the top gory and has enough fun or comedic moments in it if you are not sure what kind of movie you're in a mood for (horror or comedy). It's just yeah the Romero "Dead" Series is great but like every other series it went bad (Land and Diary). And the whole Friday series didn't not please me at all part from the first. Halloween 1 and 2 was good but the rest sucked and what the hell was up with 3. Nightmare Series was really good overall. But yea wether you like it or not I do and I prob like a lot of the other movies you enjoy as well (Who doesn't like Fincher films right, well Fight Club and Se7en are a few that are in my Top 10)

In terms of consistency per picture, I'd say Evil Dead wins the lot. All three films are great, and make an excellent transition from horror to horror comedy to action comedy.

In terms of having the best films, regardless of how many bad films there are in the series, Alien would win it. Alien and Aliens are genre classics that stand as the pinnacle of sci fi horror and action. The third one isn't bad, and the fourth is pretty awful, but they cannot detract from the sheer brilliance of the first two films.

I personally don't consider the Sympathy trilogy to be horror. Psychological, yes. Horror? No.

Nightmare on Elm St. has the advantage of, due to the premise, being the most visually interesting of any horror film outside of Alien. Even the bad movies are enjoyable because of the interesting visuals and death scenes. And I do think that 1 and 7 are bona fide horror classics, while the 3rd one is also great. In terms of slashers, Nightmare has always been my favorite.

Blade is also not horror. There's nothing scary about the vampires in those films.

I was never a big fan of Friday the 13th. It was just a knock off of Halloween and a less interesting one at that.

Of the ones not mentioned, I love the original Halloween. Not a fan of the sequels, any of them.

I love the first two Hellraiser films. The first one especially has an amazing atmosphere and the Cenobites were truly thrilling to see on screen. After the second, it was all downhill.

I never liked Scream. New Nightmare did the same concept a thousand times better, and with genuine scares, to boot.

I love Scream.
I love Scream 2 more.
I want to think that Scream 3 never happened.

I'm down for a Scream 4, if:
- It brings back the magic the first two flicks contained.
- Ignores the continuity that Scream 3 brought into the picture.
- Finally kills Dewey off once and for all.

It's not the best horror film franchise out there, but due to a minimum amount of films in the series, it has a better quality output (2 out of 3 -- 67%).

For example from what has been mentioned so far.

Evil Dead: 100%
Romero's Dead series: 80%.
Blade: 67%.
Nightmare on Elm Street - 62% (yes, I am counting Freddy vs. Jason).
Friday the 13th - 55% (yes, I am counting Freddy vs. Jason).
Halloween - 45% (yes, I am counting it's wonderful remake).
Alien - 34% (yes, I am counting AVP and it's wonderful sequel).

There are generally, I feel, about three defendable films within any given horror franchise. Halloween, II, and H20 tell a good story (although H20 would have been so much more complete with Donald Pleasance); Nightmare, Dream Warriors and New Nightmare. Night, Dawn and Day of the Dead is a pretty obvious grouping. I would pick Friday the 13th and IV: The Final Chapter, although I don't know which I'd pick for the third. And I liked all the Saws, to a degree, but I can't pick and choose as much because the series is all about absolute direct continuity. I'm not the biggest fan of the first Evil Dead, moreso the two sequels.

As for the Scream movies, I liked the first two, but I am not sure I totally followed the end of the third (I don't even remember what happened).