The Hobbit
12-03-12 | 03:48 PM
#2176
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Re: The Hobbit
Do the reviews even matter for a movie like this? I mean for anybody that saw Lord of the Rings and liked the movies, would it really matter if the reviews weren't great? To all of you that are planning on seeing the movie, which I have to believe is a large percentage of this forum, would you actually NOT go see it if the reviews weren't very good?
12-03-12 | 05:47 PM
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Re: The Hobbit
For those that like trailers, the following will be showing :
Oblivion -1st trailer
Man of steel - 2nd trailer
Star trek - 1st trailer
Pacific Rim - 1st trailer
Oblivion -1st trailer
Man of steel - 2nd trailer
Star trek - 1st trailer
Pacific Rim - 1st trailer
12-03-12 | 11:16 PM
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Re: The Hobbit
Here they come NZ Herald:
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/front-page-t...ectid=10851910
The first thing you see at the start of An Unexpected Journey, is the lighting of a candle as an older Bilbo recalls his adventurous days in flash-forward to the LOTR era. Maybe the implied question is: can The Hobbit hold a candle to what's gone before?
This first movie, at least, offers a resounding yes.
Stars: 4.5/5
This first movie, at least, offers a resounding yes.
Stars: 4.5/5
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/front-page-t...ectid=10851910
12-03-12 | 11:19 PM
#2179
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Tvnz:
Four stars
http://tvnz.co.nz/hobbit-news/unexpe...review-5257319
Magical, majestic, mystical and utterly masterful, The Hobbit movie is an enthralling,engrossing and unmissable return to Middle Earth (especially if you're a committed LOTR fan).
I can't wait to go There and Back Again with The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug next year.
I can't wait to go There and Back Again with The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug next year.
http://tvnz.co.nz/hobbit-news/unexpe...review-5257319
12-03-12 | 11:22 PM
#2180
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Stuff.co.nz:
Reviewer's rating: Four and a half stars
http://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/f...pected-Journey
When the credits start to roll to Neil Finn's Song of the Lonely Mountain, after nearly three hours, the theatre burst into applause and nobody I talked to complained of sickness or drowsiness after the 48fps experience, but felt perfectly emerged into Middle-earth.
Will the 48fps be loved by everybody? Certainly not. Will it be the future of filming? Probably.
Great cast, great special effects and great entertainment.* Yes, Peter Jackson is back at his game, and I can't wait to see if he keeps it up in what's to come.
Will the 48fps be loved by everybody? Certainly not. Will it be the future of filming? Probably.
Great cast, great special effects and great entertainment.* Yes, Peter Jackson is back at his game, and I can't wait to see if he keeps it up in what's to come.
http://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/f...pected-Journey
12-03-12 | 11:24 PM
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12-03-12 | 11:25 PM
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Re: The Hobbit
Indiewire:
[B+]
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...epic-20121204#
he director’s previous trilogy. As epic, grandiose, and emotionally appealing as the previous pictures, 'The Hobbit' doesn’t stray far from the mold, but it’s a thrilling ride that’s one of the most enjoyable, exciting and engaging tentpoles of the year.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...epic-20121204#
12-03-12 | 11:30 PM
#2183
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Re: The Hobbit
Collider:
A-
http://collider.com/hobbit-movie-review/215612/
While The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey is destined to be a stand-alone adventure classic in the vein of The Neverending Story, Willow and Legend, it is surely strongest when viewed as a satisfactory part of a greater whole.
http://collider.com/hobbit-movie-review/215612/
12-04-12 | 12:52 AM
#2184
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Re: The Hobbit
Interesting... McKellen on the Today show interview (all of three minutes...why do they even bother?) said he has five wks of shooting next year - guess that's for the expanded remaining films? (depending on when it is in the yr, could be for the 2nd film also).
12-04-12 | 03:49 AM
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12-04-12 | 08:11 AM
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It's got a 71% on rt right now, similar complaints - some great parts but slow going, especially at the beginning.
12-04-12 | 09:35 AM
#2188
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Actually glad to hear it takes it's time to introduce everything...especially looking at it being a near 9 hr story, while also the start of a 20+ hr series.
12-04-12 | 09:47 AM
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Re: The Hobbit
I love reviewers that try too hard to be noticed by restoring to the worse hyperbole possible:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=97646
http://www.boxoffice.com/reviews/201...pected-journey
... this is less a faithful adaptation of Tolkien's "The Hobbit" as much as Jackson trying to recapture the magic of the "Lord of the Rings" movies and failing miserably. In other words "An Unexpected Journey" may as well be "The Phantom Menace" and God help us all if the next two movies aren't better than this one.
Still, let's be honest: J.R.R. Tolkien and Ayn Rand top the list of writers who penned beloved, but badly written books. Tolkien could invent names and languages, but he couldn't create a plot at gunpoint.
12-04-12 | 09:59 AM
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12-04-12 | 10:00 AM
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Eileen Moran, a driving creative force at Weta Digital and longtime visual effects executive producer for Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Joe Letteri, died in New Zealand Tuesday. At the top of her profession, Moran worked with James Cameron on Avatar, Steven Spielberg on The Adventures Of Tintin, Ridley and Tony Scott, and with Jackson on King Kong, The Lord Of The Rings trilogy, The Lovely Bones, and the upcoming The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.
12-04-12 | 10:03 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princip...ilogy#Pick-ups
12-04-12 | 10:38 AM
#2193
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9 hours for LOTR? Great!
9 hours for what's essentially a short childrens' story (a book that's less than an 8th the length of LOTR)? Extraneous filler!
9 hours for what's essentially a short childrens' story (a book that's less than an 8th the length of LOTR)? Extraneous filler!
12-04-12 | 10:47 AM
#2194
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Also, many, many short stories are expanded to feature length films. Considering they're adapting a novel, and adding in material from the appendices of another, I don't think it's fair to say that there's extraneous filler based just on the run time.
12-04-12 | 10:58 AM
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I saw it last night - for the most part I loved it - had issues with the first 40 minutes but I was so distracted because I FUCKING HATED THE 48FPS.
Yes, it makes the 3d more fluid and immersive than it has been in the past - but that is completely lost because of how strange everything else moving LOOKS. Every effects shot feels like a videogame, not because of the quality of cgi, but because of the fluidity of the motion...not in a good way.
The Soap Opera effect you get from frame interpolation on 120hz+ tv's FEELS the same as this, even if this is TRUE FRAMES. There were many times when motion felt sped up and looked cartoony, because of the new format - you'll feel like you're watching the BBC version because the frame rate makes things feel off. If this is the future of filmmaking, I'm very disappointed. I need to reserve final judgement until I can see a 24fps version because I couldn't relax and get into it until the first act was over. I don't think fans of the book will be disappointed and Gollum fans will LOVE his scenes. They picked a decent endpoint and the final shot makes me eager for the next one but I truly hope that moviegoers reject this 48fps nonsense and get back to good old 24.
Yes, it makes the 3d more fluid and immersive than it has been in the past - but that is completely lost because of how strange everything else moving LOOKS. Every effects shot feels like a videogame, not because of the quality of cgi, but because of the fluidity of the motion...not in a good way.
The Soap Opera effect you get from frame interpolation on 120hz+ tv's FEELS the same as this, even if this is TRUE FRAMES. There were many times when motion felt sped up and looked cartoony, because of the new format - you'll feel like you're watching the BBC version because the frame rate makes things feel off. If this is the future of filmmaking, I'm very disappointed. I need to reserve final judgement until I can see a 24fps version because I couldn't relax and get into it until the first act was over. I don't think fans of the book will be disappointed and Gollum fans will LOVE his scenes. They picked a decent endpoint and the final shot makes me eager for the next one but I truly hope that moviegoers reject this 48fps nonsense and get back to good old 24.
12-04-12 | 12:00 PM
#2196
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Re: The Hobbit
I wonder if they will ever have a marathon of all six movies in the extended versions.
12-04-12 | 01:39 PM
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Now, I'm sure when the sixth movie hits, things might be different like with Harry Potter 1-8. But, even so, FotR:EE+TTT:EE+Rotk:EE+AUJ:EE+TDoS:EE+TaBA:TE will easily be 24 hours including intermissions.
12-04-12 | 02:37 PM
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I'm convinced after reading this thread and the one we had the first half of the year re: The Dark Knight Rises, that we need a Bane movie shot in 48fps. Your eyes and ears will never be the same! 
12-04-12 | 02:44 PM
#2199
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I saw it last night - for the most part I loved it - had issues with the first 40 minutes but I was so distracted because I FUCKING HATED THE 48FPS.
Yes, it makes the 3d more fluid and immersive than it has been in the past - but that is completely lost because of how strange everything else moving LOOKS. Every effects shot feels like a videogame, not because of the quality of cgi, but because of the fluidity of the motion...not in a good way.
The Soap Opera effect you get from frame interpolation on 120hz+ tv's FEELS the same as this, even if this is TRUE FRAMES. There were many times when motion felt sped up and looked cartoony, because of the new format - you'll feel like you're watching the BBC version because the frame rate makes things feel off. If this is the future of filmmaking, I'm very disappointed. I need to reserve final judgement until I can see a 24fps version because I couldn't relax and get into it until the first act was over.
Yes, it makes the 3d more fluid and immersive than it has been in the past - but that is completely lost because of how strange everything else moving LOOKS. Every effects shot feels like a videogame, not because of the quality of cgi, but because of the fluidity of the motion...not in a good way.
The Soap Opera effect you get from frame interpolation on 120hz+ tv's FEELS the same as this, even if this is TRUE FRAMES. There were many times when motion felt sped up and looked cartoony, because of the new format - you'll feel like you're watching the BBC version because the frame rate makes things feel off. If this is the future of filmmaking, I'm very disappointed. I need to reserve final judgement until I can see a 24fps version because I couldn't relax and get into it until the first act was over.
12-04-12 | 05:26 PM
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Re: The Hobbit
For the millionth time - Jackson isn't tying this around the freakin' books, he's tying it to his films. There's a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.