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RocShemp 10-03-12 11:36 AM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by RoboDad (Post 11410690)
But where's Radagast?
I wonder how they'll explain his absence in LOTR.
Spoiler:
In the book, Radagast played an indirect part in Gandalf being rescued from Saruman.

wishbone 10-03-12 11:51 AM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11410719)
I wonder how they'll explain his absence in LOTR.
Spoiler:
In the book, Radagast played an indirect part in Gandalf being rescued from Saruman.
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2532/mothx.jpg
Spoiler:
The Moth doesn't appear in the book, although it is possible that it indirectly appears, as Radagast the Brown says to Gandalf in The Fellowship of the Ring that he would send any messengers for help. Many believe that The Moth was inserted in the movie as a tribute to Radagast, who doesn't appear. Many argue that The Moth may be a messenger of Radagast or even Radagast himself.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/The_Moth

RocShemp 10-03-12 11:55 AM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by wishbone (Post 11410744)
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2532/mothx.jpg
Spoiler:
The Moth doesn't appear in the book, although it is possible that it indirectly appears, as Radagast the Brown says to Gandalf in The Fellowship of the Ring that he would send any messengers for help. Many believe that The Moth was inserted in the movie as a tribute to Radagast, who doesn't appear. Many argue that The Moth may be a messenger of Radagast or even Radagast himself.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/The_Moth
Yeah, I know how they handled it in FOTR. But since they're including him in The Hobbit,
Spoiler:
I wonder if they'll kill him off to explain why he plays no part in the LOTR films. Then again, establishing the Moth as his messenger in The Hobbit could be a way to work around that.

Josh-da-man 10-03-12 08:26 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11410751)
Yeah, I know how they handled it in FOTR. But since they're including him in The Hobbit,
Spoiler:
I wonder if they'll kill him off to explain why he plays no part in the LOTR films. Then again, establishing the Moth as his messenger in The Hobbit could be a way to work around that.
Spoiler:
In the trailer he sort of looks like a wild man, unkempt and disheveled, so he's either already given up the mission and gone native, or he's about to.

whoopdido 10-03-12 09:31 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
From what I understand,

Spoiler:
Radagast is a bit like Tom Bombadil in a way. He doesn't really care about what goes on around him. He's much more interested in animals and nature. So it's not surprising that he wasn't overly concerned about some silly ring.

RocShemp 10-03-12 09:40 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by whoopdido (Post 11411633)
From what I understand,

Spoiler:
Radagast is a bit like Tom Bombadil in a way. He doesn't really care about what goes on around him. He's much more interested in animals and nature. So it's not surprising that he wasn't overly concerned about some silly ring.
Maybe. Or maybe not.

Spoiler:
You're not wrong about his whole plants and animals obsession. That may be why he disappeared but it's never plainly stated.

Saruman suckered Radagast into getting Gandalf captured but then Radagast accidentally set into motion the means of Gandalf's escape. Radagast then simply went missing when Elrond sent for him and was never mentioned again.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Radagast_the_Brown

Anubis2005X 10-03-12 10:03 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Christopher Lee is going to be in this? Awesome, didn't know that...

bluetoast 10-04-12 12:08 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Looks like these will be getting Extended Editions:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012...ended-edition/

islandclaws 10-04-12 12:22 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Good. Now I can easily pass on the first BD.

GoldenJCJ 10-04-12 12:28 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
I look forward to 12 hours of The Hobbit.

redrum 10-04-12 12:36 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
i'm down for some extended editions

Solid Snake 10-04-12 01:48 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
jesus....

RocShemp 10-04-12 02:15 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11412732)
jesus....
Wrong franchise. You're looking for one of the Narnia threads.

Dr. DVD 10-04-12 08:54 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
I only hope that these movies are not three hours a piece this time around. Seriously, a single three hour movie would more than cover the book, and two would cover the book and appendices.

Josh-da-man 10-04-12 09:33 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Yeah, I am curious about how PJ is going to swing this.

The Hobbit is a fairly small book, and pretty much a straightforward adventure/quest tale. It would probably make one movie. I also think it's pretty obvious that there's also going to be a "White Council" plotline that will be brought front and center that was only hinted at in the novel and LOTR trilogy, which might be enough material for a movie in itself. So I'm not entirely sure where the material for the third movie will come from... I believe the filmmakers are prohibited from using anything from The Lost Tales or The Silmarillion, so anything from there is off the table. There have been rumblings that the second movie (when there were two movies) would bridge the gap between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, but if they did, I'm not sure how they could call it The Hobbit when it's going to be stuff like Gandalf and young Aragorn out hunting for Gollum, or the Elves doing stuff; Bilbo was in the Shire enjoying his Old Toby for the period between the two stories. These kinds of stories, by their nature, would have to take place after the events of the book.

So, yeah, I'm not sure where they're going to come up with nine or more hours of material if, indeed there are extended editions on the horizon. Even trotting out Tom Bombadil and the Blue Wizards isn't going to add a lot of running time.

Osiris3657 10-17-12 06:41 AM
Re: The Hobbit
 
http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/...p/temp3739.jpg

Solid Snake 10-23-12 08:28 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Bolg the Orc Chieftain

Troy Stiffler 10-23-12 09:08 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Kind of Scary.

Scarier than the Elephant Man Orc. A little better than the badass Orc in Fellowship.

Solid Snake 10-23-12 09:10 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Badass orc in FoTR? Who was that?

Why So Blu? 10-23-12 09:13 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
All the orcs in FOTR were short. The Uruk-hai were big bastards, though.

Solid Snake 10-23-12 09:24 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Oh. Ok. I was thinking...I don't remember one badass orc. You were talking about those guys. I was literally thinking of just one sole Orc.

whoopdido 10-23-12 09:36 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11439136)
Oh. Ok. I was thinking...I don't remember one badass orc. You were talking about those guys. I was literally thinking of just one sole Orc.
There was a main Urak-hai named Lurtz in the Fellowship of the Ring. He wasn't in the book. He was the bad dude who

Spoiler:
killed Boromir with a bunch of arrows and then was beheaded by Aragorn.

Solid Snake 10-23-12 09:49 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
I didn't know he even had a name in there. I know who he was but when I read Orc. I just though.. regular ole Orc.

whoopdido 10-23-12 10:57 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11439156)
I didn't know he even had a name in there. I know who he was but when I read Orc. I just though.. regular ole Orc.
Yeah Orc wasn't really the proper term. Uruk-hai are like super orcs. But then there's another breed that's half human and half Orc. I don't know what they're called though. Then to make it even more confusing, I think orcs and goblins are exactly the same thing. Sometimes they're referred to as orcs and other times as goblins.

Troy Stiffler 10-23-12 11:55 PM
Re: The Hobbit
 
Bleh. That's what I get for attempting nerdy talk.


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