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Old 10-09-07 | 12:02 PM
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does the 'Final Cut' restore all the violence that was present in the Euro cut?
"All" the violence? The only thing I know being put back in was the scene where Tyrell's eyes are gouged out. Was there more violence that was present in the European cut?
Old 10-09-07 | 12:02 PM
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The violence is restored.
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2019.
Anyone taken aback by the realization that we're closer to the time of the film (2019) than we are to the film's original release (1982)?
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
"All" the violence? The only thing I know being put back in was the scene where Tyrell's eyes are gouged out. Was there more violence that was present in the European cut?
Pris has more body thrashing after having been shot, wasn't her trying to break Deckerd's nose also longer in the Euro cut, I haven't seen the 'director's cut' (not the 'Final cut') version in quite some time.

I know I've already voiced my displeasure with Warner's over the two city release of 'The Final Cut', but considering they released 'The Director's Cut' in 1992 in multiple cities, this go around, seems totally unfair.

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Old 10-09-07 | 12:32 PM
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Pretty sure all that you mention, Giles, is in the Final Cut.
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The synth music is indispensible to me, the soundtrack is incredible. I never found synth music to feel futuristic. It felt more like a different kind of mood, which fits the film so well.
What I meant was that in the 80s synth music was heard a lot, regardless of the setting for the film... and as such, whenever I hear it I can't help but think of that time frame rather than the time frame the movie was supposed to be set in.

The same can not be said about something like Star Wars, even though it is 5 years older, the music doesn't "feel" like the 70s... thank God they didn't shove disco music into Star Wars!
Old 10-09-07 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by C-Mart

As for the film... it looked and sounded great, but it just didn't draw me in. There were a lot of things that really dated it, like the machine for the test or the TV that Deckard uses to scan the photograph, and some of the sound effects sounded like they should have been in a cartoon... I didn't want them to change that stuff, because I don't agree with the whole digital enhancement thing (i.e. walkie talkies instead of guns, jawas falling off of Rontos, etc...). Even the soundtrack with all the synthesizer and "futuristic" music that was used back in the 80s was too dated.
The "TV" used to scan the digital photo was way ahead of it's time and I'm sure 1982 audiences were like "Wow! that's neat!". That was the first time I ever saw anything like that and I remember wishing there was something like that in real life when I saw Blade Runner, and now that technology is in every home with Personal Computer.
Old 10-09-07 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by C-Mart
What I meant was that in the 80s synth music was heard a lot, regardless of the setting for the film... and as such, whenever I hear it I can't help but think of that time frame rather than the time frame the movie was supposed to be set in.

The same can not be said about something like Star Wars, even though it is 5 years older, the music doesn't "feel" like the 70s... thank God they didn't shove disco music into Star Wars!
That's your own personal issue, of course. In time, the new, fresh people watching the film won't have the same connotation. I know I don't and I think the film has one of best soundtracks of all time.
Old 10-10-07 | 12:49 AM
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I'm with you there, Drop. To me, the music is timeless. It works because it's cold and imposing, not because they used synths for the sounds. It's a stunning selection of compositions and it's so well integrated into the film. Love it.
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Vangelis did an awesome job of balancing Sci Fi elements and Noir flavors in the soundtrack and it works on many levels. The synth, yes even 80's synth , will always sound futuristic. This film, with it's new vision of a possible dark future, was well served by the instrument. It's like, what else would you use?

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Old 10-10-07 | 08:24 AM
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Yeah, the two things I love most about this movie are the score and the set design.
Old 10-10-07 | 08:34 AM
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how is the 5.1 soundmix this go around?
Old 10-10-07 | 12:13 PM
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Blade Runner will continue for another week at the Landmark in Los Angeles.
Old 10-10-07 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Neeb
Blade Runner will continue for another week at the Landmark in Los Angeles.
You mean through the 18th? If so, awesome, I appreciate the info! Did you confirm this through the theater?
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Originally Posted by Giles
how is the 5.1 soundmix this go around?
It was amazing. You've never heard Blade Runner like this before. I was hearing stuff I could never make out previously.
Old 10-10-07 | 04:49 PM
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You mean through the 18th? If so, awesome, I appreciate the info! Did you confirm this through the theater?
I did.
Old 10-10-07 | 08:31 PM
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I just saw this at the Landmark today thanks to this thread. I wouldn't have even known about it otherwise. It's truly a shame WB isn't giving this more exposure.

I was told the same thing as Peep... that it is playing through next Friday (10-18). The print was amazing... so clean and all the colors really popped off the screen. And the sound was excellent too. It's only slightly different from the director's cut... the main thing I noticed was the violence which others have already mentioned. Some of the FX shots were cleaned up too, but it wasn't anything that jumped right out or looked out of place like in Star Wars. It was pretty much seamless to my eye.

I can't wait for the DVD set.
Old 10-11-07 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Living Dead
I just saw this at the Landmark today thanks to this thread. I wouldn't have even known about it otherwise. It's truly a shame WB isn't giving this more exposure.

I was told the same thing as Peep... that it is playing through next Friday (10-18). The print was amazing... so clean and all the colors really popped off the screen. And the sound was excellent too. It's only slightly different from the director's cut... the main thing I noticed was the violence which others have already mentioned. Some of the FX shots were cleaned up too, but it wasn't anything that jumped right out or looked out of place like in Star Wars. It was pretty much seamless to my eye.

I can't wait for the DVD set.
it's not a 'print' - its 4K digital projection. The film (35mm) was scanned 4K, the special effect shots (65mm) were scanned 6k.
Old 10-11-07 | 02:01 PM
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I just saw this at the Landmark today thanks to this thread. I wouldn't have even known about it otherwise. It's truly a shame WB isn't giving this more exposure.
How many people were there? Was it sold out? How big was the room? I'm hoping to go early next week.
Old 10-14-07 | 09:16 PM
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Are the Ziegfeld shows selling out? I plan on hitting the 5:30 show to morrow but don't want to buy tix in advance in case I get held up at work.

[UPDATE] Saw it at the Ziegfeld today, 2pm show. Theater was 3/4 empty. But it was an excellent show, nice audio and pq. And this edit held together nicely imo.

BTW, anyone who thinks there's a right or wrong interpretation to anything based on Philip Dick's writings clearly needs to re-think their position.

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Old 10-16-07 | 02:21 PM
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soundtrack

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Vangelis did an awesome job of balancing Sci Fi elements and Noir flavors in the soundtrack and it works on many levels. The synth, yes even 80's synth , will always sound futuristic. This film, with it's new vision of a possible dark future, was well served by the instrument. It's like, what else would you use?
If anyone is interested in seeing what others are saying about the soundtrack , or blade runner in general, you might want to take a peak at the main site

Old 10-16-07 | 05:24 PM
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Finally caught it yesterday at The Landmark.
What an incredibly gorgeous picture! There wasn't even a single second that I noticed that it was digital. The images projected were just flawless and perfect. Even the end credits scrolling by didn't betray digital (white letters on black background)

I just wish The Landmark's sound system had been up to the visual's standard. The sound was good, but not great (which it should've been for a spanking brand new state-of-the-art cinema...)
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Finally caught it yesterday at The Landmark.
What an incredibly gorgeous picture! There wasn't even a single second that I noticed that it was digital. The images projected were just flawless and perfect. Even the end credits scrolling by didn't betray digital (white letters on black background)

I just wish The Landmark's sound system had been up to the visual's standard. The sound was good, but not great (which it should've been for a spanking brand new state-of-the-art cinema...)
I caught it there also last night, and couldn't agree more.
Old 10-16-07 | 08:04 PM
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How are the crowds at the Landmark? I'm seeing the dinner-time show on Thursday, so I don't anticipate a problem, but thought I'd ask.
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Blade Runner: The Final Cut (DC's Uptown/Baltimore's Senator) - Oct. 26

I'm pulling this out of the BR: NYC/LA thread because The Senator wants a little help informing the masses that this is opening next Friday:

from Cinematreasures:

BLADE RUNNER: THE FINAL CUT will open in Washington,DC exclusively at the Uptown Theatre on Oct. 26, 2007. The film will also open in Baltimore, MD at The Senator on Oct. 26, 2007 and at the Landmark Harbor East on Nov. 9, 2007.
posted by idlewild on Oct 16, 2007 at 1:33pm



I did a confirmation email from the Senator - the one week run is indeed a 35mm print - I am assuming the Uptown will be likewise, since Warner Bros. has ponyed up the money to strike 35mm prints for select theatres - which would mean more (non-digital) theatres are actually presenting this where all fans should see this -on a large screen.


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