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Old 02-24-08 | 04:17 PM
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Saw this and thought it was a humorous idea it absolutely failed to deliver any humor (like just about everything on SNL in the past 4 years or so.) The David Spade video was much funnier. But here it is ....
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Old 02-24-08 | 04:30 PM
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omg omg omg omg omg omg

omg omg omg omg omg omg

omg omg omg omg omg omg

saw it today.

and did i mention? omg omg omg omg
Old 02-24-08 | 06:46 PM
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I saw "There Will be Blood" today. First off, Daniel Day-Lewis was absolutely unbelievable. He better win Best Actor. I'm still pissed off he didn't win for "Gangs of New York."

As for the Paul/Eli thing:
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Until the very end of the movie when Plainview says to Eli that Paul has 3 oil rigs, I thought Eli/Paul were the same person throughout the whole movie. Definitely confusing, and NOT obvious at all that they were brothers.

I only made it through the first 12 of the pages in this thread, but the one thing I haven't seen anyone ask in this whole thread that confused me:
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Why did H.W. set the shack on fire? Was he blaming his dad on his hearing loss? Was he jealous of the "brother?" Didn't quite get that one.

Finally, as others have mentioned, a lot of the media coverage of Daniel Day-Lews' character have portrayed him has just a plain evil SOB. I try to avoid any kind of media coverage for movies I want to see in the theater, but I couldn't avoid it.
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This was NOT the case at all, and for most of the first half of the movie he was (dare I say) a sympathic character.
Old 02-24-08 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Numes
I only made it through the first 12 of the pages in this thread, but the one thing I haven't seen anyone ask in this whole thread that confused me:
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Why did H.W. set the shack on fire? Was he blaming his dad on his hearing loss? Was he jealous of the "brother?" Didn't quite get that one.
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They show HW reading the "brother"s journal. From what I could tell, he was trying to set the brothers bed on fire for being a fraud.

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Old 02-24-08 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RichC2
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They show HW reading the "brother"s journal. From what I could tell, he was trying to set the brothers bed on fire for being a fraud.
Ok, but...
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my assumption was that the journal (or diary) was actually the real brothers diary that he (the imposter) took/was given after he died. How would H.W. know that he was a fraud? This of course, presupposes that his speech before he was killed was the truth (which I believed.)

Now if it truly was the imposter's journal, then that makes sense, but I don't think it is obvious.
Old 02-24-08 | 07:34 PM
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Saw it today, and really liked it a lot. It's definitely worth being nominated for Best Picture, which is more than I can say for most of the other nominees.

I've been hearing for ages that both this and No Country had endings that audiences hated or didn't get. I can see why that was the case with No Country, but I don't really get the hatred for the ending for this. What exactly is the root cause for most people's problems with the ending?
Old 02-25-08 | 07:41 PM
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It just ended. The butler walks out of the room after he killed a Man and credits roll.
Old 02-25-08 | 08:06 PM
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I'm finished.

He won. The competition was defeated.

Fade to Black.

I thought the ending was perfect.
Old 02-25-08 | 08:08 PM
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yup, perfect ending.
Old 02-25-08 | 08:18 PM
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I still laugh at this every single time I see it:

Old 02-25-08 | 08:19 PM
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Very good movie, but DDL was the reason why any of it was great (performances anyway, everyone else was fine, but didn't match DDL). Hence why I think the right movie won Best Picture and the right guy won Best Actor.
Old 02-25-08 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Brack
Very good movie, but DDL was the reason why any of it was great (performances anyway, everyone else was fine, but didn't match DDL). Hence why I think the right movie won Best Picture and the right guy won Best Actor.
That's a bit unfair. The performance was great and certainly elevated the movie, but we're not talking about Training Day here.
Old 02-25-08 | 08:53 PM
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why is it unfair? I don't think the rest of the characters were important enough for me to call it the best movie of the year.
Old 02-25-08 | 08:59 PM
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There is more, far more, to TWBB than just DDL's performance.
Old 02-25-08 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Brent L
There is more, far more, to TWBB than just DDL's performance.
It was definitely the best thing about it by a mile (cinematography, music, costumes top notch as well). Without his performance, I really don't think the movie would work as well.

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Old 02-25-08 | 09:09 PM
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But then, what movie would?
Old 02-25-08 | 09:11 PM
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But then, what movie would?
movies that don't solely depend on the lead actor to carry the movie.
Old 02-25-08 | 09:15 PM
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If it wasn't DDL it'd be a different movie, I agree. It'd still be a great flick if it was somebody else giving a really good performance, but it would by no means be the same.

I know what you're getting at, I disagree. Even without DDL, Plainview would still be an interesting character.
Old 02-25-08 | 09:17 PM
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I consider a great movie where everyone gives great performances. DDL might've been too good, if that's possible.
Old 02-26-08 | 12:12 AM
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With DDL winning last night, I thought I'd finally give My Left Foot a shot as it had been sitting on my shelf for over a year.

Wow.

Possibly the greatest performance ever.

Now back to There Will Be Blood.
Old 02-26-08 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RichC2
If it wasn't DDL it'd be a different movie, I agree. It'd still be a great flick if it was somebody else giving a really good performance, but it would by no means be the same.

I know what you're getting at, I disagree. Even without DDL, Plainview would still be an interesting character.
I'm wondering also how the movie would have gone if pta wasn't director. Prob be very different and not nearly as good too.
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Now that I agree with. One of the few movies where I was constantly wondering how they knew this or that would work.

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Old 02-26-08 | 10:50 AM
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I don't think Plainview would've been interesting without DDL performance. It wasn't what Plainview said or did that I found interesting, but how convincing DDL was doing it.
Old 02-26-08 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by brizz
I don't think i've ever heard a more ridiculous statement in my life

You clearly enjoy being the guy that hates something everyone loves - the problem is you are hating on something that is truly great. TWBB isn't Crash. It's one of the most amazing pieces of cinema ever composed. It is brilliance from beginning to end, and it captures the ethos of the period with such incredible adroitness that I was simply floored. It's at once gritty and beautiful, and the twin themes of the moral bankruptcy that lies beneath the birth of the American Dream in the Industrial Age and that of religious revivalism are so incredibly well done that I was just in awe. I don't know that I'll ever get to see something as good on the big screen again in my lifetime. And if you can't see what Plainview's character says about capitalism in this particular period, you just don't want to for the sake of being the guy who needs to laugh at the peons for not being as smart as him.
Holy hyperbole Batman! You are certainly welcome to think it is that good, but it is equally valid to think it is really not all that great.
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There will be blood is such a great title for the film on so many levels. You have the concept of blood relationships, and the lack of them. DDL has a son, but he is not "blood." Then he has a brother, but he is not blood either. He rejects both of them, his son twice. He tries to take Jesus as his blood savior, but fails to do this in the end. Finally he only has blood in violence, mined like the oil he so desperately wants.
He NEVER tried to take Jesus as his savior, he just said the things needed to get his pipeline (even if ultimately there was truth in what he said) This was counterpointed with Eli saying whatever was necessary at the end to get out of debt.


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