I was so bored by the time the cool car stuff came around that I just really wanted the movie to end.

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Exactly. It's really quite ridiculous.

I did love the movie, and I thought Planet Terror and the fake trailers were fantastic. Death Proof was a bad companion piece to that. I loved seeing Zoe Bell in action because she is a true bad ass. Other parts of the movie worked, but many other times I just wanted everyone to shut the hell up. Disappointing.

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The basic root of the characters and the actresses wouldn’t have to change, just be redefined to more high school girl clique-slasher film cliche. Jungle Julia is the bitchy, alpha, princess leader (think, Amy Irving in Carrie), Jordan Ladd is the sexy goofball (PJ Soles in Halloween), and Butterfly is the likeable everygirl (Jamie Lee Curtis in every slasher film). I think QT is smart enough to have, even in that case, written very clever-but-inane dialogue for them, instead of the end result, very grounded, consciously hip convos.

But what do I know? Who am I to judge? I sure as Hell ain’t got no Oscar It just seems to me, when writing/making the film, Quentin was playing more to what got him that Oscar than the genre (and its rules pertaining to character) that he was imitating.

can someone please explain what the point was of Jungle Julie text messaging that guy all night? It served no point in the story I could tell...

You pretty much summarized almost all of Death Proof

death proof wasnt that boring, I seen it with a 85% full audence and they seemed to really enjoy Death Proof, Laughing at all the right moments and clapping at the end when the girls got the revenge. I dont know how anyone could not forgive a slow 30 minutes for a awesome second half.

Product placement was the best I came up with.

If I had to wager a guess, maybe it was to provide some sort of comment on how women form strong friendships with other women, and how men can sometimes not be there when they need to talk or have a shoulder to cry on or co-miserate. This might also play into the scenes where Russell can instantly tell that not a single man has talked to Vanessa Ferlito (even after the offer of a lapdance), and where they decide to make the lakehouse party a "girls only" thing after debating whether boys should come along.

Men really aren't portrayed in a positive light in Death Proof: Russell is a psychotic killer and the owner of the white car and the two men at the bar only humor and indulge women in the hopes of getting some sex out of it.

Had a lot of fun.

Planet Terror was definately the highlight. There was so much energy and instant satisfaction with every-little-thing that happened. It was just just mind blowing to me that a movie can be so much fun.

Deathproof was the more drawn-out, low tempo of the two. The setups took a lot longer. I counted maybe five or seven fantastic punchlines. Honestly, I found it a bit tedious to sit through. The satisfaction moments weren't frequent enough. Especially after being blown away by the previous two hours.

I think that the movie is going to stay around in the theaters for a good bit. The crowd was packed, and really, really into the movie. Plenty of cheers, clapping, and laughs.

my disappointment came from QT not poking fun at the grindhouse reputation like Rodriguez did, but trying to reinvent it...he did a few bad cut/edit things in the beginning, but then he actually made a real movie like he might normally make, and I wanted to see screw-up stuff a really obvious slow chase that's supposed to look high-speed or disappearing/reappearning objects or cars changing color/model. I think he made the kind of exploitation film he would make and didn't try to reproduce the feel of the original grindhouse experience....I don't hate what he did, it was just unexpected.

I really don't think the point was to laugh at how bad those movies were. It was more of a celebration of them, warts and all. A celebration of the event of seeing them. The missing reels, scratched prints, bad edits and false title were just thrown in to add a little charm to it. Rodriquez chose to celebrate the extreme violence that many of those films had to offer. Tarantino focused on showcasing hot cars and hotter girls that many other films from this time did (hell, they even mention some of these in Death Proof). It really isn't a full spoof of those genres because it's obvious that the filmmakers really enjoyed grindhouse flicks.

Hey it's all good I loved it, Planet Terror was the most fun of the two.But the ((theater was near empty for the first showing)).What gives?"easter weekend".

Got back from a 3pm screening, about 40-50 people in the audience. Really dug the whole experience.

Couple points:
-Planet Terror felt a lot longer then Death Proof
-The SS trailer was by far the worse of the 4, the Thanksgiving one got the biggest reaction
-Kurt Russell was bad-ass in the first part, but almost seemed like a whole different character in the 2nd
-Why did they have to have Zoe play herself instead of just a random stunt person? I can't believe most people know who see actually is (I only know from that doc. she was in).
-In case you were wondering, there was nothing once the credits ran (I thought they might go back to the Cheerleader).
-One guy started to leave the theater after the Planet Terror ended, but came back and sat down.

Did anyone else notice that Butterfly had a soft drink from the restaurant advertised between the trailers?

Yup. They also announced on the radio



during Planet Terror. Which makes me wonder if these movies are truly tied in or not.

"Misirlou" was one of the songs in the jukebox.

"Big Kahuna Burger" was mentioned.

Even after seeing it twice (in 24 hours) I think this one of the best "movie experiences" I have had in years. Not the best film(s) in years, but this is definitely something that needs to be seen in a theatre. If a friend asked me to go tonight, I would again.

I already asked this, but no one answered:

Did anyone else's theater empty by 25% when PT was over, and then empty even further half-way through DP?

This happened at the 11pm showing. A few people left right after Planet Terror, a few people left halfway through Death Proof. No more than 10 people, total.

At the 3pm showing today no one left.

Not as extreme as that, but I say 25 percent left about halfway through DP.

I paid attention to this again. The daytime film stock (or digital filter) was different once you get to the 2nd story in Death Proof. The last "effect" (up until the slowdown during the final fight) came right before Zoe gets out of the car to play Ship's Mast for the first time. At that point and afterwards the film is completely blemish free.

We did have a number of people leave after Planet Terror but most seemed to come back. I think most were just using that time to get more popcorn or use the bathroom. A few did leave during Death Proof but certainly the percentage of these people wasn't high. A few people in the row behind me left during the initial part of the car chase with Zoe on the hood.

Nah. I've seen it twice now. The first time I went, a bunch of people left right after Planet Terror, but most of them came back, and as far as I remember no one left during Death Proof.

The second time, only one group of people got up after Planet Terror.

Just got back from it and it was AMAZING. I enjoyed the hell out of this. The funny thing when we got to the theater was that they had signs up outside explaining that it was a grindhouse movie and that it was supposed to have grain and missing reels and stuff. I thought that was hilarious.

Planet Terror had all the gore and action that i could ever want in a movie. It was just a fun ride from start to finish.

Death Proof had a much slower build. I kinda got the idea that QT was using the girls in the beginning like he did with the guys in the beginning of Reservoir Dogs. Besides it being a bit slow, the only other thing i would want is more Kurt Russell. He's the fucking man, plain and simple.

I absolutely loved the trailers. Machete was a great way to start. Werewolf women of the SS was just ok but Nic Cage part was great. Don't was just plain silly but in a good way. Thanksgiving just about made all my friends and half the theater fall on the floor laughing.

I can tell you that this will be one of the few movies that i will listed to the commentary completely. And I pray to god that they get the directors from the trailers to come and do commentary too.

Just a great fucking time all around. One of the best movie going experiences i've ever had.

Maybe that's why Death Proof has gotten mixed reactions (and why I liked it more the second time around). Up through the second trailer segment, everything was filmed with a nudge and a lot of humor. Death Proof lacked it (except for some of Tracie Thom's dialogue and the missing reel gag, which wasn't as well-done as Rodriguez's).

My favorite moment from the trailers is a tie between the facial expression of the one woman on the right during the Werewolf Women of the SS title freeze and the line in the Thanksgiving trailer:

(dips finger in blood from decapitated man, tastes it)
"It's blood!" (long pause) "That bastard!"

I loved that quoted too. And i must say that the ending to Thanksgiving is one of the funniest things i have ever seen. It literally had me laughing for a good 5 minutes and it still has me laughing when i think about it.

I wasn't able to see exactly what was going on.

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