"Grindhouse" reviews thread.
#178
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
That was the point.
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#179
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Originally Posted by The Bus
Yup. They also announced on the radio
during Planet Terror.
Which makes me wonder if these movies are truly tied in or not.
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during Planet Terror.
Which makes me wonder if these movies are truly tied in or not.
Without question, I assumed they were. Not too much. The hospital scene crossed over. And I also assumed that the text-messaged guy was someone that was in Planet Terror.
In logic (hehe), the first half of Deathproof would have happened right before Planet Terror. If I were to guess, I'd say that it happened the night of the car crash.
All of the trailers were good. I thought that the Werewolf Women of the SS was right up there with the others. Not many people laughed, except for the cameo. I guess I am just a sucker for Nazi humor.
Like Kevin Smith did, Tarantino has really created a world that is just a lot of fun to see. So I can presume that his followup will be a mediocre romantic comedy.
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Originally Posted by DarthMarino
That great. Did anyone catch what the "real" title was? I thought I saw the word 'Thunder' in there but I can't even be certain.
My friend says that's a nod to the real grindhouse practice of retitling a movie to trick people into thinking it's a new & different movie and paying to see it again.
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I was around the 70's watching these kind of movies and I didn't like GRINDHOUSE.
I liked the PLANET TERROR part but that DEATH PROOF was lame the women characters were the worse. The stunt car chase was o.k. only because no cgi unlike FAST & FURIOUS 3. Had they used the car chase & put Kurt Russell in PLANET TERROR not only would you have a shorter & better movie but you could give birth to a franchise.
If this movie doesn't make money it will be because of wasting 1hour & half of DEATH PROOF that limted theater showings.
I liked the PLANET TERROR part but that DEATH PROOF was lame the women characters were the worse. The stunt car chase was o.k. only because no cgi unlike FAST & FURIOUS 3. Had they used the car chase & put Kurt Russell in PLANET TERROR not only would you have a shorter & better movie but you could give birth to a franchise.
If this movie doesn't make money it will be because of wasting 1hour & half of DEATH PROOF that limted theater showings.
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Originally Posted by onebyone
Exactly. It's really quite ridiculous.
I did love the movie, and I thought Planet Terror and the fake trailers were fantastic. Death Proof was a bad companion piece to that. I loved seeing Zoe Bell in action because she is a true bad ass. Other parts of the movie worked, but many other times I just wanted everyone to shut the hell up. Disappointing.
I did love the movie, and I thought Planet Terror and the fake trailers were fantastic. Death Proof was a bad companion piece to that. I loved seeing Zoe Bell in action because she is a true bad ass. Other parts of the movie worked, but many other times I just wanted everyone to shut the hell up. Disappointing.
Death Proof was a very good companion piece. You could not have had another 90 minutes of splatter. The exhaustion factor would have been too great. There is a reason nobody has ever made a 3 hour splatter horror film. Rodriguez pulled out all the stops in the first half, and Tarantino used the opportunity to experiment with the structure of his piece. The obvious purpose was to amp up the impact of the characters getting killed, in contrast to Rodriguez's more traditional approach of killing stock characters en masse.
I honestly can't believe you guys were eager for more bloodshed after Planet Terror. Death Proof was damn near perfect.
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My friend & I went to the 2:30 showing today. We sit down to watch, and I'm really geeking out about the whole thing. The Machete trailer was a blast, and I loved the cheesy "feature presentation" music, and the worn & scratched film effects. In general, I felt the movie was absolutely made just for me.
I know nobody's going to believe the next part, but I swear it's true. About 20 minutes into "Planet Terror" (at the part where Tom Savini gets his finger bitten off) the film breaks. My friend and I started laughing, and I said, "Man, this is awesome! They even simulated a film break!" We chuckled a few seconds more, and then as our chuckles died down, we realized this fake film break was going on just a little too long. Suddenly the house lights come on and the manager comes in and says that the film really DID break. Crap in a hat! So we sit and wait. And wait some more. After about 20 minutes the film starts up and breaks again after 30 seconds. It does this 2 more times and then stops yet again. The manager comes back in and says the film is "unrepairable," whatever that means. I don't understand why you can't just tape the 2 ends together, but whatever. He says since it can't be fixed, we have to go. They give us a cash refund.
So we drive to the only other theatre playing it on the exact opposite end of town. It starts there at 5:30. This time there are no film breaks (other than the fake one during Planet Terror) and we finally get the see the movie(s) in its entirity. When we get out it was 9pm!! Yikes! It took me all stinkin' day, but I finally got to see it.
Loved the fake trailers, and I could watch Planet Terror every day. It was everything I hoped it would be and more. When Planet Terror ended and the fake trailers started, I counted 5 people who got up and left the theatre. I thought maybe they were just going to the bathroom, but they never came back. They were apparently so clueless as to the nature of the movie they were seeing that they thought it was over and left, never knowing there was another hour & a half left to go. And since they didn't "get" it, that means they must think "Werewolf Women of the S.S" is a real upcoming movie.
Like someone else previously mentioned, my theatre also had a sign on the door explaining that "Grindhouse recreates the look of a distressed and damaged print, and the film scratches and splices are intentional." HI-larious! That sign wouldn't have been there if they hadn't been getting some complaints!
I know nobody's going to believe the next part, but I swear it's true. About 20 minutes into "Planet Terror" (at the part where Tom Savini gets his finger bitten off) the film breaks. My friend and I started laughing, and I said, "Man, this is awesome! They even simulated a film break!" We chuckled a few seconds more, and then as our chuckles died down, we realized this fake film break was going on just a little too long. Suddenly the house lights come on and the manager comes in and says that the film really DID break. Crap in a hat! So we sit and wait. And wait some more. After about 20 minutes the film starts up and breaks again after 30 seconds. It does this 2 more times and then stops yet again. The manager comes back in and says the film is "unrepairable," whatever that means. I don't understand why you can't just tape the 2 ends together, but whatever. He says since it can't be fixed, we have to go. They give us a cash refund.
So we drive to the only other theatre playing it on the exact opposite end of town. It starts there at 5:30. This time there are no film breaks (other than the fake one during Planet Terror) and we finally get the see the movie(s) in its entirity. When we get out it was 9pm!! Yikes! It took me all stinkin' day, but I finally got to see it.
Loved the fake trailers, and I could watch Planet Terror every day. It was everything I hoped it would be and more. When Planet Terror ended and the fake trailers started, I counted 5 people who got up and left the theatre. I thought maybe they were just going to the bathroom, but they never came back. They were apparently so clueless as to the nature of the movie they were seeing that they thought it was over and left, never knowing there was another hour & a half left to go. And since they didn't "get" it, that means they must think "Werewolf Women of the S.S" is a real upcoming movie.
Like someone else previously mentioned, my theatre also had a sign on the door explaining that "Grindhouse recreates the look of a distressed and damaged print, and the film scratches and splices are intentional." HI-larious! That sign wouldn't have been there if they hadn't been getting some complaints!
#185
Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
The obvious purpose was to amp up the impact of the characters getting killed, in contrast to Rodriguez's more traditional approach of killing stock characters en masse.
I didn't hate it mind you, but parts were just not needed and not entertaining to me. I didn't need more splatter, I just needed not to be bored.
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
You're may get your wish if there's any truth to that rumor that Tarantino is going to expand Death Proof and take it to this year's Cannes Film Festival.
Which is a good idea; like I and others have mentioned before, Proof is just so different in tone and feel from Planet Terror and the fake trailers that it really throws Grindhouse off as a whole. I still think a double bill of Terror and Thanksgiving would have been better, with Proof released on its own as a kind of companion piece.
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Which is a good idea; like I and others have mentioned before, Proof is just so different in tone and feel from Planet Terror and the fake trailers that it really throws Grindhouse off as a whole. I still think a double bill of Terror and Thanksgiving would have been better, with Proof released on its own as a kind of companion piece.
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When it comes to Tarantino it's always good to just take his word with a grain of salt since the man likes to think out loud. WHere's the movie theater he was going to rebuild in chinatown? Where's KILL BILL put together?
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Wound up seeing this again tonight, excellent all the way through.
Planet Terror seemed shorter this time, and Death Proof was just as good. Best theater going experiences so far this year. The overall flick is my favorite so far this year, and is a fun and very fast way to kill 3hr+.
Not a sour moment in its entirity (save for maybe Zombie's trailer, which squanders its potential). And after the repeat viewing, Death Proof is, imo, the better of the two.
It was showing how men were running their individual lives. Julie's night was being dictated by a man that didn't show (hence the text messages), Arlene's was ruined by the lack of attention from them, Pam (McGowan)'s character presumably just got dropped (They mention "You know what happend to her?" repeatidly but never get into it), and Shanna had her man ploying against her (well, getting her super drunk). The roller derby chick that drove was just collateral.
On the flip side, both Kim and Zoe were in control of themselves, Abernathy and the other girl, whose name escapes me right now, not so much and would be presumably the targets. Abernathy pretty much learns how to control her own life as they go and gives the ultimate blow just after the The End title card.
At least, that's what I got from it. The moral (imo) was basically if you're gonna let someone else run your life, you may as well be dead. And while it won't make the movie more entertaining for folks, most of the comments made in the movie were hardly pointless. But then what do I know, it's 3 am and I've spent 7 of the last 36 hours sitting in a movie theater.
Planet Terror seemed shorter this time, and Death Proof was just as good. Best theater going experiences so far this year. The overall flick is my favorite so far this year, and is a fun and very fast way to kill 3hr+.
Not a sour moment in its entirity (save for maybe Zombie's trailer, which squanders its potential). And after the repeat viewing, Death Proof is, imo, the better of the two.
Originally Posted by hapgilmore
can someone please explain what the point was of Jungle Julie text messaging that guy all night? It served no point in the story I could tell...
On the flip side, both Kim and Zoe were in control of themselves, Abernathy and the other girl, whose name escapes me right now, not so much and would be presumably the targets. Abernathy pretty much learns how to control her own life as they go and gives the ultimate blow just after the The End title card.
At least, that's what I got from it. The moral (imo) was basically if you're gonna let someone else run your life, you may as well be dead. And while it won't make the movie more entertaining for folks, most of the comments made in the movie were hardly pointless. But then what do I know, it's 3 am and I've spent 7 of the last 36 hours sitting in a movie theater.
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Originally Posted by scott1598
ok, so we all know i have a peeing problem and if you didn't you do now.
My question is this:
if you desperately had to (or maybe you did), but if you had to pick a point in the whole fiesta to run out quickly and pee one out, when would you go??
Try not to spoil, but a point that i can look for and won't miss too much good stuff right after (i'm thinking sometime in DP, but i think i'm looking forward to that one the most).
This would really help me out. TIA!
My question is this:
if you desperately had to (or maybe you did), but if you had to pick a point in the whole fiesta to run out quickly and pee one out, when would you go??
Try not to spoil, but a point that i can look for and won't miss too much good stuff right after (i'm thinking sometime in DP, but i think i'm looking forward to that one the most).
This would really help me out. TIA!
And as has been mentioned before, get checked out for diabetes and prostate problems.
Scott
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#190
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Not a sour moment in its entirity (save for maybe Zombie's trailer, which squanders its potential). And after the repeat viewing, Death Proof is, imo, the better of the two.
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I just had a thought - What if a theatrical print of Grindhouse was played at a revival showing in about 15-20 years. The print would look so shitty, heh, becuase it'd have the fake layer of grain and scratches and mess-ups, and then on top of that it'd have the actual grain and scratches and mess-ups in the film itself from being 20 years old. The only part that would look normally aged would be the final 45 minutes of Death Proof, which don't really have much done to them.
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Originally Posted by Corvin
Quite right. This isn't how women talk---it's how QT wishes women would talk.
That being said I loved both films and the trailers. I would pay to see a feature length "Don't."
I felt that Planet Terror was fun and wore out it's welcome by the end. I had no problem with the dialog or the acting in "Death Proof." It almost seemed like a response to the torture porn disguised as cinema as of late. Ultimately, (IMO) DP will stand the test of time, PT will for the most part remain in infamy BECAUSE of it's connection to Tarantino's movie. and screw it...flame me if you will but i suspect some of the hate being thrown the way of DP is a little smidgen of sexism, geek culture has a difficult time with women being portrayed as anything but sex objects and looking at some of the comments here and most of the Aint It Cool Talkbacks geeks are scared of girls.
#193
Saw it tonight and it was awesome. Theater wasn't packed, and I was a little dissapointed.
The "Don't" trailer had me in hysterics. I had tears streaming down my face for the entire thing. "Don't!", "Don't" etc...
Both films were good, I liked Death Proof slightly better than Planet Terror. Both will be watched extensively.
Brilliant film going experience. This is what going to the movies is all about.
The "Don't" trailer had me in hysterics. I had tears streaming down my face for the entire thing. "Don't!", "Don't" etc...
Both films were good, I liked Death Proof slightly better than Planet Terror. Both will be watched extensively.
Brilliant film going experience. This is what going to the movies is all about.
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Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain
Anyone notice the cigarettes J.T. Gave El Wray? None other than Red Apples.
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Originally Posted by Elpresidentepez
I've never met anyone (Man or Woman) who talks like QT characters, except for the majority of a pointless screen writing class I took in college. It's all fantasy.
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Originally Posted by Seantn
I just had a thought - What if a theatrical print of Grindhouse was played at a revival showing in about 15-20 years. The print would look so shitty, heh, becuase it'd have the fake layer of grain and scratches and mess-ups, and then on top of that it'd have the actual grain and scratches and mess-ups in the film itself from being 20 years old. The only part that would look normally aged would be the final 45 minutes of Death Proof, which don't really have much done to them.
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Originally Posted by RichC2
It was showing how men were running their individual lives. Julie's night was being dictated by a man that didn't show (hence the text messages), Arlene's was ruined by the lack of attention from them, Pam (McGowan)'s character presumably just got dropped (They mention "You know what happend to her?" repeatidly but never get into it), and Shanna had her man ploying against her (well, getting her super drunk). The roller derby chick that drove was just collateral.
On the flip side, both Kim and Zoe were in control of themselves, Abernathy and the other girl, whose name escapes me right now, not so much and would be presumably the targets. Abernathy pretty much learns how to control her own life as they go and gives the ultimate blow just after the The End title card.
On the flip side, both Kim and Zoe were in control of themselves, Abernathy and the other girl, whose name escapes me right now, not so much and would be presumably the targets. Abernathy pretty much learns how to control her own life as they go and gives the ultimate blow just after the The End title card.
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Saw it last night and overall I loved it. Definitely a great theater experience, will see it again tomorrow on a bigger screen.
I can't imagine skipping the trailers, they were better than most of the second feature imo.
As movieking said earlier, Planet Terror was consistent throughout, while Death Proof had higher highs and lower lows.
The ending to Death Proof really turned me off. Towards the end of the first act I was loving it as a slasher flick, but then it turned into something totally different. I hated the ending especially. They should have ended it
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If this was answered I missed it.
Nope. A few images during the first bit of the credits, but nothing at all once they go to all text.
I can't imagine skipping the trailers, they were better than most of the second feature imo.
As movieking said earlier, Planet Terror was consistent throughout, while Death Proof had higher highs and lower lows.
The ending to Death Proof really turned me off. Towards the end of the first act I was loving it as a slasher flick, but then it turned into something totally different. I hated the ending especially. They should have ended it
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Originally Posted by achau9598
Do I need to stay through the end credits?
Nope. A few images during the first bit of the credits, but nothing at all once they go to all text.
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Originally Posted by Jordan Raup
You call that character development!?!? It was an hour of mundane, boring chatter that made me hate the characters. I was hoping that they would die every chance they could. I really wish that Death Proof would have been made by any other director, it would have gotten ripped apart.
Originally Posted by Tarantino
Saw this one last night. Loved Planet Terror (and the all of the trailers). Disliked Death Proof. It's the first Tarantino movie that I didn't like. The dialogue was just horrible to me. It was pointless, uninteresting, and took me right out of the movie. I don't mind lengthy conversations, but talking about nothing on screen for a half hour at a time does nothing for me. I was disappointed. Of course I loved Kurt Russell and all of the car work. Honestly, I was hoping every one of those girls would get slaughtered.= J
Originally Posted by das Monkey
Regardless, it was an awesome experience, and the trailers couldn't have been more perfect. Dear God, someone green-light Thanksgiving! Best time I've had at the movies in quite a while and one of those few times where the communal crowd atmosphere was superior than respectful silence.
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Death Proof blew the fun away I had with the trailers and Planet Terror.
Overall, except the trailers, but the features seemed to self referential, to wink wink. Back then, they were trying to make good films but were undone by corny dialogue, bad FX, ect, they didn't know. Here the directors should've cut back the wink wink shit.
Taratino's I think betrayed what the Grindhouse movie was up till the opening credits of Death Proof. Few gimmicks were used, like scratches and sound beeps, but it just looked to modern.
Speaking of modern, they acted a lot like the films were placed in the 70s, then suddenly they make a modern reference to Bin Laden or Lindsay Lohan. Dumb.
Trailers were the best.
Grade: C+
Overall, except the trailers, but the features seemed to self referential, to wink wink. Back then, they were trying to make good films but were undone by corny dialogue, bad FX, ect, they didn't know. Here the directors should've cut back the wink wink shit.
Taratino's I think betrayed what the Grindhouse movie was up till the opening credits of Death Proof. Few gimmicks were used, like scratches and sound beeps, but it just looked to modern.
Speaking of modern, they acted a lot like the films were placed in the 70s, then suddenly they make a modern reference to Bin Laden or Lindsay Lohan. Dumb.
Trailers were the best.
Grade: C+