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Old 10-12-06 | 10:23 AM
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not that this anything to do with 'The Depahted' but that reminds me of the line in 'The Queen' where one of the Palace men is informing Tony Blair on how to address Her Majesty.

"It's mam as in ham not ma'rm as in 'farm'"
Old 10-12-06 | 11:36 AM
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Here's my very quick review:

If you want to know how good this movie is, I was up nearly the entire night before with my sick child, probalby got about an hour of rest. We planned on seeing the 10pm show the next day. I was waivering on whether or not I should attempt to actually stay awake through this movie. I finally decided I would. I never once even remotely felt tired. This movie kept me locked in. Great movie.
Old 10-12-06 | 01:54 PM
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I found The Departed to be solid thru and thru. I'd rank it an 8/10
Old 10-12-06 | 02:05 PM
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The scenes involving Leo were some really fantastic, hard hitting, gritty drama that most have come to expect with these type of Scosese films.

The scenes with Damon on the other hand felt more like something out of Ocean's 11. A more light hearted con story than a serious drama. Whenever it was dealing with Damon, it was one joke after another from either Wahlberg, Baldwin, or Nicholson. As soon as it jumped back to Leo, the film seemed to go back to the hard nosed, intense crime drama.
I disagree, but understand where you're coming from. IMO, that was one of the strengths of the movie. While Baldwin was a tad over the top, the rest of the cast reflected like they were people who were involved in this underground mob-rule world. They were used to the killings and beatings, they knew how things worked. DiCaprio's character seemingly avoided it, he hadn't killed anyone, he wasn't keen on the idea and wasn't around death so much, despite who his father was. It was very much like an outsider (Leo) looking into this dark, disturbing world. It's nothing to those who are already in it, but he just can't handle it.
Old 10-12-06 | 06:34 PM
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Just saw it and loved it......The ending was shocking but almost too shocking that it became comical..Regardless, Alec Baldwin/Mark Wahlberg jokes were AMAZING!!!!!!!
Old 10-13-06 | 06:15 PM
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Just saw it today. I really liked it but thought Infernal Affairs was the better film.

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I didn't really care if Costello lived or died. In the original, I was really invested in Andy Lau's character. Here, although Matt Damon was great in the role, I was indifferent toward his character. I also felt that when Costigan and Costello teamed up felt a bit rushed. I remember the whole phone tag being a little longer in the original. Finally, the ending came out of nowhere. How did Marky Mark know Matt Damon was the rat?


Those gripes aside, I really enjoyed it and believe it to be a worthy companion piece to Infernal Affairs.
Old 10-13-06 | 07:32 PM
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Finally, the ending came out of nowhere. How did Marky Mark know Matt Damon was the rat?


I assumed
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the envelope DiCaprio gave the shrink contained all the info on him, and figured she gave it to Marky Mark as per DiCaprio's instructions. Of course, I'm just guessing there, but it seems like the natural thing for him to do - give the info to the one guy he knew he could trust.


The assumptions near the end were some of the more entertaining aspects, imho.
Old 10-14-06 | 05:07 AM
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anyone know the name of the opening song ?
Old 10-14-06 | 08:03 AM
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anyone know the name of the opening song ?
yes
Old 10-14-06 | 11:58 PM
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Caught a matinee today, thought it was awesome. Great film. Highly recommended.

I was surprised at all the humor in it, and laugh out loud humor at that...not like your average Scorsese film.
Old 10-16-06 | 07:46 AM
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A great movie from start to end, although the ending got a little comical in it's over-the-top violence.
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Can someone use the spoiler tags to describe some of the violent stuff that went on in this movie? Just how violent is this compared to say, Casino or Goodfellas?

Do we see anyone's eyes get squeezed out by a vice per se, or a dude getting whacked to death with aluminum bats?

List the violent scenes in The Departed.
Outside of your standard cop/robber shootout, I could think of 4 cringe-worthy violent scenes:
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1) Costigan beats a Providence thug repeatedly in the face with a coat rack
2) Costigan's already broken forearm gets pounded with his own boot while being held down (a la the hammer to the hand in casino, but not as gross)
3) Queenan falls off a building onto the ground right in front of Costigan. The impact is just off screen but lots of blood splatter
4) Three headshots within a minute, plus Sullivan getting his own headshot in the last scene
Old 10-16-06 | 11:08 AM
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Sat through this movie the other night. I didn't dislike it, but I didn't like it either.

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Can someone explain to me, like I'm a moron, the whole "Costello being an FBI informant" angle and who the guy was who leaked that info to Leo, and what Leo was doing at that guys house in the first place. Maybe this was all explained in the movie and I was busy nodding off...
Old 10-16-06 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SonOfAStu
Sat through this movie the other night. I didn't dislike it, but I didn't like it either.

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Can someone explain to me, like I'm a moron, the whole "Costello being an FBI informant" angle and who the guy was who leaked that info to Leo, and what Leo was doing at that guys house in the first place. Maybe this was all explained in the movie and I was busy nodding off...
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They never explain why they were there, it's just assumed they were going about their usual business of collecting drug payments, and since Mr. French was providing gunshot cover by lighting M-80s, Costigan had the opportunity to torture him to extract information. He wanted to get info about the mole, but the drug guy slipped out that Costello was an FBI informant.


"I thought I'm supposed to go into shock, but it hurts!"

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Old 10-16-06 | 01:39 PM
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I have to say that I was somewhat disappointed with this movie.

The cast was amazing, with Mark Wahlberg as a surprising standout, but I had a lot of problems with this movie while it seems everyone else is eating it up and calling it the best movie ever 10 minutes after seeing it once (check it's rank on IMDB).

My problems with it...

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For all of the praise he's garnering, Scorcese didn't seem to "do" much in this movie. As far as the actors go, it's not like he was directing Jennifer Lopez - it doesn't take much to elicit a great performance from Jack Nicholson or Alec Baldwin or Matt Damon or any of the other all-stars in the case. Stylistically, there wasn't much going on... a shot through a pocket as a cell phone was dialed worked well, and I liked how the music/audio would be cut abruptly in certain spots, but there was nothing really special that made me think that there was any signature being put on the movie - any competent director could've made a comperable final product.

Aside from the hole where the cell phone is vibrating one minute and ringing the next, I also didn't love the coincidences. I can see both men wanting to know Vera Farmiga's character and they both had the opportunity, but there was no case made as to why Anthony Anderson - DiCaprio's friend - was placed on Damon's team... there was no dialogue between the two, he didn't seem to be a standout in his job, and yet he was personally selected to be in the elite team?

My largest problem, though, was with the sex scene between DiCaprio and Farmiga. A few scenes earlier, she was with Damon at his place and the movers were arriving... then she's back at her old apartment (I can understand that part because there were a few weeks left on the lease) with boxes and furniture all over the place and the picture she had brought to Damon's house on the wall. This is before they experienced any real problems regarding whether they would stay together, and it just had me going "WTF?" as the rest of the movie was in chronological order and this scene made no sense in that position.

Also, the elevator scene... at headshot #2, I was in row 4 of the theater and heard a huge uproar of laughing from behind me... by 3 it was wild, and with the final one, people were practically rolling in their seats. In my mind, this was an extremely poignant moment and should not have been funny. It could have been handled much better, in my opinion. Similarly, this laughter arrived again in the final scene, which, once again, didn't seem appropriate, as a depressed man with nothing left in life is embracing being killed by someone he used to work with.

Finally, after a great final shot with Wahlberg leaving no evidence of his killing on Damon, the camera moves toward the window to show the view... a very good ending as that view had a certain significance, and then a rat is going across the railing on an upscale 7th floor balcony? What the hell is that? If anything, it makes me say that Scorcese ruined the scene and completely changed the feeling people had as the movie ended.

Don't get me wrong, the first half of the movie had some great moments, there were some hilarious jokes in there, and I loved the placement of the title card a good while into the movie, just to add some great emphasis, but I can't say this is a great movie and it's certainly not anywhere near the 50th best movie of all time (IMDB), despite all of those pluses and some amazing acting. Overall, it was so good I wished it would be better. I'm sure an 8/10 from me won't prevent it from raking in the awards nominations, though, and DiCaprio would be an absolute lock if they put him up for supporting actor (with Damon being the lead)... if not, I can still see DiCaprio nominated for lead actor, with Jack easily picking up the supporting nod, and maybe even one in there for Wahlberg, just because he was such a standout.
Old 10-16-06 | 03:13 PM
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Haha if you don't like the movie, don't try to defend it, you didn't like it you didn't like it.

I thought the last scene fit with the serious/just kidding tone of a majority of the movie. Also, directing is a lot more than just creative camera angles. You'd be amazed at the number of directors that can't keep a tone, style, pace or mood for a full runtime.
Old 10-16-06 | 03:31 PM
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Haha if you don't like the movie, don't try to defend it, you didn't like it you didn't like it.
Huh? Not explaining why you don't like something is nothing more than a threadcrap.
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Loved the movie have one question though:
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If Costello was an FBI informant... what was he actually doing for the FBI?
1. Meaning, he hid the microchips that he was originally supposed to give back to the police through divulging info on who he sold them to.
2. Police new that he killed many people
So what info was FBI getting from him, that was worthwhile not to shut him down?

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Old 10-16-06 | 06:31 PM
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Huh? Not explaining why you don't like something is nothing more than a threadcrap.
Oh no, I agree, I mean there seem to be a lot of reviews out there where the people don't actually like the movie per say, but seem to defend it anyway. It comes off as strange. That's all, not promoting threadcrapping.
Old 10-16-06 | 07:39 PM
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Also, directing is a lot more than just creative camera angles. You'd be amazed at the number of directors that can't keep a tone, style, pace or mood for a full runtime.
I agree. But my statements about...
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The end shot, the handling of the elevator scene, the strange placement of the DiCaprio/Farmiga sex scene, plus the overly long runtime, etc.
...tell you that Scorcese's failure to impress (me) wasn't simply due to his not making the camera go through walls or not adding a green tint to everything.

Regarding people who didn't like the movie still defending it, as I said, there's a lot to like in the movie and it's good enough to make you wish that it was even better (that is, if you didn't like it).
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Can someone help me with this...

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In the elevator, I'm trying to remember who got shot and what order. I'm reading there were three shootings, but I can't remember the third outside of AA and Leo. Was there another cop there or something? Thanks!
Old 10-18-06 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by joshyborra
Can someone help me with this...

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In the elevator, I'm trying to remember who got shot and what order. I'm reading there were three shootings, but I can't remember the third outside of AA and Leo. Was there another cop there or something? Thanks!
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Barrigan shows up, shoots DiCaprio in the head. Barrigan shoots Anderson in the head. Barrigan explains to Damon, he wasn't the only guy on the inside. Damon shoots Barrigan. There's 3 for ya.

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Old 10-18-06 | 09:24 PM
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My problems with it...

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Also, the elevator scene... at headshot #2, I was in row 4 of the theater and heard a huge uproar of laughing from behind me... by 3 it was wild, and with the final one, people were practically rolling in their seats. In my mind, this was an extremely poignant moment and should not have been funny. It could have been handled much better, in my opinion. Similarly, this laughter arrived again in the final scene, which, once again, didn't seem appropriate, as a depressed man with nothing left in life is embracing being killed by someone he used to work with.

Finally, after a great final shot with Wahlberg leaving no evidence of his killing on Damon, the camera moves toward the window to show the view... a very good ending as that view had a certain significance, and then a rat is going across the railing on an upscale 7th floor balcony? What the hell is that? If anything, it makes me say that Scorcese ruined the scene and completely changed the feeling people had as the movie ended.
Regarding the inappropriate moments of laughter, it's not the director's fault that moviegoers are getting increasingly stupider. There's a reason horror movies these days go to great lengths to show every gruesome thing possible instead of leaving it to audience imagination. When The Exorcist came out, the kids who had never seen it before laughed through it like it was some sort of comedy.
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gonna check it out later today
Old 10-20-06 | 11:08 AM
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Maybe I missed the answer, but I also had the question

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I still don't understand what Jack was doing as an FBI informant. Did they know he was basically killing assloads of people? He seemed to operate with impunity, I don't understand what the FBI was gaining other than the occassional low level grunt it sounded like he turned over.


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