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Originally Posted by Decapitate Prey
Pardon? Argento completely slays both of them. His old classics are better than the classics of those two, and his recent 'misfires' are a helluva lot more entertaining then either Landis and Carpenters.
I'd also have to nominate Miike as a true Master. Sure, being younger than the other guys his films have yet to be considered classics - and we can't say for sure that they will be - but he's made some great horror!
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Last night I watched the so-so Cigarette Burns, which was basically Carpenter remaking In The Mouth Of Madness. As with many of Carpenter's films, the premise is good, then falls apart in the execution. The only person that seemed to be interested was Udo Kier.
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Originally Posted by cactusoly
It looks like most people either really love or really hate "Homecoming". I wonder if politics have anything to do with it?
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Originally Posted by freshticles
Homecoming was retarded because of it's obviousness and lack of original ideas. It was almost like a kid spun his 'rock against bush' cd for a week, got really angry at the government, mixed it with another big trend: zombies, and wrote this script.
Hey, I love Romero's critiques of racism and consumerism in Night/Dawn, but I'm not so cloistered as to think they rise to the level of the brilliantly incisive treatise by a staggeringly perceptive social commentator.
I mean, c'mon, man, these are zombie movies. If you want deep insight minus any whiff of exploitation or genre banality, I'd suggest that Showtimes "Masters of Horror" series is probably not the place to find it.
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Originally Posted by d2cheer
Anyone see Imprint yet?
Ranks near the top of MoH episodes, for me. There were flaws, to be sure. But this is an ep that presents an original and unpredictable story, and is the one case of an actual "master" working at the peak of his abilities. There's no compromise in Miike's work here, and "Imprint" fits in very nicely with themes that he's interested in (I'll keep things "spoiler-free" for now). The first half is kind of slow, but that torture scene is as cringe-inducing as you've heard. It's realism is what I think scared away Showtime. They show "Ichii", which has far more graphic torture, and had no trouble with Udo Kier feeding his intestines into a film projector in another ep. But they were more cartoonish. It's a classic US censorship thing -- graphic violence done in a fun and silly way is OK. But make violence unpleasant to watch and people start having problems. Anyway, back to ep ... after that point, I really didn't know where Miike was going -- and I like that. The episode was extremely well-shot -- far above made-for-tv standards. Like a lot of Miike, I'm not sure I got everything at the end ... but that's part of the game that Miike likes to play with his audience. Problems? Well, as others noted, the acting is god-awful. Youki was very good -- everyone else, very bad. I wish Miike just did this in Japanese -- too many people seemed like they were speaking English strickly phoenetically (no understanding, just memorization). Drago didn't have this excuse. I'm not remembering specific past roles by him. Is he really this awful, or is maybe his performance more a reflection of Miike's inexperience in directing English-speaking actors? And the "monster" at the end was laughter inducing -- which didn't seem to fit the tone that Miike was trying to set.
Still, I highly recommend you all see it and see what you think. Don't go into it expecting the greatest most-horrfic thing ever. And don't go in expecting run-of-the-mill horror, like most in MoH. It does fit nicely into Miike's works like "Audition", "Gozu", "Box".
Still, I highly recommend you all see it and see what you think. Don't go into it expecting the greatest most-horrfic thing ever. And don't go in expecting run-of-the-mill horror, like most in MoH. It does fit nicely into Miike's works like "Audition", "Gozu", "Box".
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Sounds Like, the entry by Brad Anderson interests me most for Season 2. I loved Session 9 and The Machinist.
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Sounds Like, the entry by Brad Anderson interests me most for Season 2. I loved Session 9 and The Machinist.
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The V word of the second season is the episode that we have been waiting for! This episode is the one I cant wait to see and is gonna be horror goodness. Cant wait to see the twist that is done on vampires!
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Yeah, but name one Zombie movie where the socio-political critique isn't rather obvious and ham-handed. Unless you happen to be Fulci, you simply don't make a zombie movie without having some reductive, over-simplified cultural meme in mind!
Hey, I love Romero's critiques of racism and consumerism in Night/Dawn, but I'm not so cloistered as to think they rise to the level of the brilliantly incisive treatise by a staggeringly perceptive social commentator.
I mean, c'mon, man, these are zombie movies. If you want deep insight minus any whiff of exploitation or genre banality, I'd suggest that Showtimes "Masters of Horror" series is probably not the place to find it.
Hey, I love Romero's critiques of racism and consumerism in Night/Dawn, but I'm not so cloistered as to think they rise to the level of the brilliantly incisive treatise by a staggeringly perceptive social commentator.
I mean, c'mon, man, these are zombie movies. If you want deep insight minus any whiff of exploitation or genre banality, I'd suggest that Showtimes "Masters of Horror" series is probably not the place to find it.
On the plus side Argento's MOH episode was the best thing I've seen in ages...
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I've got Imprint on pre-order. I've loved Miike for years and I'll watch just about anything by him.
As for the rest, well, they're a great example of why modern horror in America seems dead. Even the better ones were still very conventional. Granted, almost all of them were better than most recent horror movies that actually came out in the theaters, but this is a wonderful chance for directors to take a step off the beaten track, and I don't think anyone did that in the first season.
As for the rest, well, they're a great example of why modern horror in America seems dead. Even the better ones were still very conventional. Granted, almost all of them were better than most recent horror movies that actually came out in the theaters, but this is a wonderful chance for directors to take a step off the beaten track, and I don't think anyone did that in the first season.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I've got Imprint on pre-order. I've loved Miike for years and I'll watch just about anything by him.
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The NY TIMES had a great write-up on "Imprint" and Showtimes' unwillingness to air it, but unfortunately it's now "Times selected" - you gotta pay to see it:
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...A80894DE404482
But the folks at CHUD reprinted a good chunk of it here (along with their own commentary): http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=5731
Not surprisingly, it appears to be (or, rather, would have been) the one truly uncompromised and possibly brilliant entry in this whole lame series. I'm looking forward to it.
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...A80894DE404482
But the folks at CHUD reprinted a good chunk of it here (along with their own commentary): http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=5731
Not surprisingly, it appears to be (or, rather, would have been) the one truly uncompromised and possibly brilliant entry in this whole lame series. I'm looking forward to it.
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I think some of you may be disappointed in Imprint based on the hype and decision not to air.
Imprint is a decidedly Miike film, even if it looks a lot better than most of his previous work. It's gross and gooey and isn't afraid to cross any boundaries. Of course some of the make up effects are a bit silly, the plot isn't the best and Billy Drago is a terrible actor. Not speaking Japanese I have no idea how good the actors are in Miike's normal films, but I'm hoping the main problem was the language barrier. Drago screams and rails against the world and generally over acts terribly. By the end it seemed like a very nicely shot and extra gross late night horror movie. Definitely not the greatest horror film you've never seen or anything like that.
Imprint is a decidedly Miike film, even if it looks a lot better than most of his previous work. It's gross and gooey and isn't afraid to cross any boundaries. Of course some of the make up effects are a bit silly, the plot isn't the best and Billy Drago is a terrible actor. Not speaking Japanese I have no idea how good the actors are in Miike's normal films, but I'm hoping the main problem was the language barrier. Drago screams and rails against the world and generally over acts terribly. By the end it seemed like a very nicely shot and extra gross late night horror movie. Definitely not the greatest horror film you've never seen or anything like that.
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Originally Posted by Mordred
I think some of you may be disappointed in Imprint based on the hype and decision not to air.
Imprint is a decidedly Miike film, even if it looks a lot better than most of his previous work. It's gross and gooey and isn't afraid to cross any boundaries. Of course some of the make up effects are a bit silly, the plot isn't the best and Billy Drago is a terrible actor. Not speaking Japanese I have no idea how good the actors are in Miike's normal films, but I'm hoping the main problem was the language barrier. Drago screams and rails against the world and generally over acts terribly. By the end it seemed like a very nicely shot and extra gross late night horror movie. Definitely not the greatest horror film you've never seen or anything like that.
Imprint is a decidedly Miike film, even if it looks a lot better than most of his previous work. It's gross and gooey and isn't afraid to cross any boundaries. Of course some of the make up effects are a bit silly, the plot isn't the best and Billy Drago is a terrible actor. Not speaking Japanese I have no idea how good the actors are in Miike's normal films, but I'm hoping the main problem was the language barrier. Drago screams and rails against the world and generally over acts terribly. By the end it seemed like a very nicely shot and extra gross late night horror movie. Definitely not the greatest horror film you've never seen or anything like that.
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Originally Posted by natevines
This was my gripe with it too, Drago apparently isn't a terrible actor and has a strong cult following (I liked him in 'Hills'), but in this he was just awful. This acting is unacceptable for a series that provides at LEAST passable acting.
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Originally Posted by Mordred
I think some of you may be disappointed in Imprint based on the hype and decision not to air.
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I noticed a few of these at Best Buy today and they all had a sticker on the front that said something like, "exclusive script to screen featurette".
Does that mean the disc pressings for Best Buy are different and have this extra special feature?
Does that mean the disc pressings for Best Buy are different and have this extra special feature?
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Finally got my copy of Imprint in the mail today. I haven't watched it yet, but I noticed it brazenly says "Banned from Cable Broadcast!" on the top, even though the people releasing it are the same people who banned it. Just seemed crass to me.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
I noticed a few of these at Best Buy today and they all had a sticker on the front that said something like, "exclusive script to screen featurette".
Does that mean the disc pressings for Best Buy are different and have this extra special feature?
Does that mean the disc pressings for Best Buy are different and have this extra special feature?
John Carpenter
Stuart Gordon
Mick Garris
Don Coscarelli
Lucky McKee
John Landis
I think when the packaging changed with Homecoming, Best Buy didn't have this as an exclusive feature any more. I could be wrong, though.
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Originally Posted by Mordred
Imprint is a decidedly Miike film, even if it looks a lot better than most of his previous work. It's gross and gooey and isn't afraid to cross any boundaries. Of course some of the make up effects are a bit silly, the plot isn't the best and Billy Drago is a terrible actor. Not speaking Japanese I have no idea how good the actors are in Miike's normal films, but I'm hoping the main problem was the language barrier. Drago screams and rails against the world and generally over acts terribly. By the end it seemed like a very nicely shot and extra gross late night horror movie. Definitely not the greatest horror film you've never seen or anything like that.