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JZ1276 09-03-07 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Seantn
Did it actually say a year? I could have sworn that it said "1978" at the beginning, but my friend told me I was wrong. I'm pretty sure that I am wrong, but can others on here confirm? I probably just assumed 1978 because of the look of things.

Laurie's friends were using cell phones, meaning it was probably present day - So the beginning should have been about 1990?

No, it didnt say 1978 it never gave a year.
As far as cell phones, the only one that can be sen throughout the movie is Lommis'. None of the teenagers use them.

Seantn 09-03-07 03:14 PM

Jeez - Shows how much this movie bored me...I can't recall a lot of simple details from it! I could have sworn that Linda used one at some point. Again, maybe i'm wrong.

LivingINClip 09-03-07 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I couldn't stand Laurie/JLC in Carpenter's Halloween.

Really? I thought she was great, it brought a certain classic sense of innocence versus evil to the storyline.

zombiezilla 09-03-07 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
But the most important review of all is not in yet....

....I won't be seeing it until tomorrow morning, and then I'll give it to you.


Well FUCK! That was truly disappointing. A (very) few scenes were good/interesting, but overall, I was bored to death. And I have been a big fan of RZ's movies, until this one. It was...in a word....stupid. He (Zombie) should never have made this film; it will alienate many fans of his first two films, which had some style, smarts and uniqueness.

chris_sc77 09-03-07 04:16 PM

This movie was pretty dissapointing...There were some very good moments but most of the film was very bad.
The chick who played Laurie was absolutely horrible! I wanted so bad for her to die everytime she was on screen so i wouldn't have to watch her anymore(same with the other two chicks as her friends.)
Rob Zombie cannot direct children apparently because everyone under the age of 25 in his films sucks.
I really like all the cameos and Malcolm Mcdowell, and Brad Dourif and the scenes they were in but other than that there is very little in this film to enjoy.

DthRdrX 09-03-07 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by LivingINClip
Really? I thought she was great, it brought a certain classic sense of innocence versus evil to the storyline.

I thought she looked bored shitless during most of the film. She also didn't look the part of a teen to me. The funny thing is that I enjoyed her much more in H20, even though Halloween was IMO a vastly superior film.

LivingINClip 09-03-07 04:50 PM

She was suppose to be boring, she never went out...Etc...ETc

Still, each to their own. I remember loving H20, but now I don't enjoy it near as much. In fact, as far as sequels and enjoyment goes, I actually enjoy Halloween 6: 'The Curse of MIchael Myers'.

hdtv00 09-03-07 04:59 PM

1. "Halloween," $31 million.
slashed its way to a $31 million haul over the four-day weekend, surpassing the $20.1 million gross for 2005's "Transporter 2," which had held the record for best Labor Day opening.
Led by "Halloween," Hollywood set a new overall record for Labor Day, with the top 12 movies taking in $119.6 million, surpassing the previous high of $106.1 million in 2003.

"`Halloween' was far beyond anything we've seen on Labor Day," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Media By Numbers. "It was just a perfect ending to a perfect summer. Hopefully, we can do this every year."

Rival11 09-03-07 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
Well FUCK! That was truly disappointing. A (very) few scenes were good/interesting, but overall, I was bored to death. And I have been a big fan of RZ's movies, until this one. It was...in a word....stupid. He (Zombie) should never have made this film; it will alienate many fans of his first two films, which had some style, smarts and uniqueness.

Your review was not worth hanging around for - it had no style or uniqueness.

Just kidding. On a serious note, I thought this was his best effort to date and loved the cinematography. I also thought the directing was solid throughout as well.

LivingINClip 09-03-07 05:25 PM

The film did have some good cinematography, namely the sequence when Laurie comes in to find Annie and Michael is in the same room. That was a excellent scene, due to the lighting (or lack of). And as always, Zombie did deliver on showing just brutal the murders would be (namely the first death scene). I have no doubt the man has an eye , but I question on exactly what he wanted this movie to be. Did he want it to be his original take? If so, why copy the original movie in the second half? Did he want it to be a prequel? That is one of the biggest problems with the movie, lack of direction in the most general of senses.

Rogue588 09-03-07 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by hdtv00
1. "Halloween," $31 million.
slashed its way to a $31 million haul over the four-day weekend, surpassing the $20.1 million gross for 2005's "Transporter 2," which had held the record for best Labor Day opening.

Whoo-hoo! It made $11m more than Transporter 2! It MUST be a good flick..


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
Well FUCK! That was truly disappointing. A (very) few scenes were good/interesting, but overall, I was bored to death. And I have been a big fan of RZ's movies, until this one. It was...in a word....stupid. He (Zombie) should never have made this film; it will alienate many fans of his first two films, which had some style, smarts and uniqueness.

So...is it still in your top 3 over in the Halloween ranking thread? :p

Supermallet 09-03-07 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Whoo-hoo! It made $11m more than Transporter 2! It MUST be a good flick..

I think the real tragedy here is that Transporter 2 ever held a record for highest grossing anything.

Rogue588 09-03-07 08:37 PM

:lol: Yeah, you have a point there...

zombiezilla 09-03-07 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
So...is it still in your top 3 over in the Halloween ranking thread? :p

Yeah, it's tied with everything after "Halloween II" for lameness. Including Busta Rhymes. ;)

LivingINClip 09-03-07 10:30 PM

Having watched both versions now - I find the workprint version to vastly superior, minus the rape scene. In fact, if the workprint had been the version released, my opinion on the film would of increased greatly, while it is still not a great film, it is better paced, has more of the stalking element that the original had and has a vastly superior ending.

hdtv00 09-03-07 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Whoo-hoo! It made $11m more than Transporter 2! It MUST be a good flick..

And just because YOU don't like sometihng, then it MUST be hated by everyone else too.

Silverscreenvid 09-04-07 12:23 AM

There is far too much effort to humanize the young Michael Myers, and waste nearly half the film doing so. In Carpenter's original, he was a soulless freak of nature, sheer, irredeemable evil as Dr. Loomis pointed out. Here, we're actually rooting for him to bump off his early victims, especially the slimy lout stepfather.

Carpenter used the extra screen time that he had to ratchet up the suspense by having Myers stalk the unsuspecting teenagers, appearing and disappearing so that the audience, but not the characters saw him. Zombie plays with that a little, but has Laurie spot him far too early.

The biggest difference is that Laurie in this film is no Jamie Lee Curtis. She's just a screaming teenager who is only differentiated from her soon-to-be-dead friends by the fact that she is slightly less sex-obsessed than they are. The final showdown between the two lacks the punch that Jamie Lee easily provided.

Jackskeleton 09-04-07 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
If I let Jack scare me I'd have abandoned DVD Talk years ago. :lol:

Ooooga boooga, mother fucker. Ooooga Booga! :p

Supermallet 09-04-07 12:51 AM

Jack, did you kill animals as a child? Come on now, you can be honest with us.

Rogue588 09-04-07 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by hdtv00
And just because YOU don't like sometihng, then it MUST be hated by everyone else too.

Yep, that's what i've been saying.. :rolleyes:

BravesMG 09-04-07 10:23 AM

I thought of another question about this version Halloween and I'm curious how they handled it in the original:
Spoiler:
They never showed any of the media publicity about Myers going on a killing spree while busting out of prison. Wouldn't there be media reports everywhere saying "HEY, THERE'S AN ENORMOUS KILLER OUT THERE AND HE'S ALMOST ALWAYS WEARING A MASK, PLEASE BE ON THE LOOKOUT." It's not like Myers was (or at his size, even could) be sneaking around and hiding, not to mention standing in the middle of the fucking lawn staring into the window of a high school. I don't get the gap in logic why Laurie (or anyone else that doesn't somehow miss seven foot tall monster wearing a mask and a jumpsuit walking around their neighborhood) doesn't just call the damn cops? That whole thing seemed awfully stupid, it's like she forgot about it as soon as he disappeared.

nateman 09-04-07 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by bravesmg
I thought of another question about this version Halloween and I'm curious how they handled it in the original:
Spoiler:
They never showed any of the media publicity about Myers going on a killing spree while busting out of prison. Wouldn't there be media reports everywhere saying "HEY, THERE'S AN ENORMOUS KILLER OUT THERE AND HE'S ALMOST ALWAYS WEARING A MASK, PLEASE BE ON THE LOOKOUT." It's not like Myers was (or at his size, even could) be sneaking around and hiding, not to mention standing in the middle of the fucking lawn staring into the window of a high school. I don't get the gap in logic why Laurie (or anyone else that doesn't somehow miss seven foot tall monster wearing a mask and a jumpsuit walking around their neighborhood) doesn't just call the damn cops? That whole thing seemed awfully stupid, it's like she forgot about it as soon as he disappeared.

Oh, really…
Spoiler:
Back in my day 7 feet tall men with Masks were always standing eerily in the schoolyard, staring at me. That whole part was beyond stupid. You can’t tell me that absolutely no one say him & didn’t do fu*k all about it.

I know it was a smaller town but still. Come on!

MoviePage 09-04-07 02:29 PM

Saw it on Sunday and the (vast majority of) reviews are spot on - what a laughably awful piece of crap. I would list all of the things I disliked about it, but most of them have already been pointed out, nor do I care enough to spend that much time talking about this garbage when there are better things - and better movies - to spend time on. By about the halfway point, I was done, finished, and ready to leave - and that was before the incoherent quick-cut shaky-cam scenes began. To me, this is one of those movies that is so jaw-droppingly incompetent that it could easily be used in film classes to illustrate how not to make a good movie. I've said it before and I'll say it again - crap that occasionally looks slightly polished thanks to a large budget is still crap.

Oh, and for the record - I'm a big horror movie fan, enjoyed Devil's Rejects and thought it was pretty skillfully made, love a lot of Rob Zombie's music, and love the original Halloween but am not at all biased against remakes that are actually good (to reuse an example already pointed out by another poster, I love the original Dawn of the Dead and thought the remake was fantastic as well).

Rogue588 09-04-07 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by nateman241
Oh, really…
Spoiler:
Back in my day 7 feet tall men with Masks were always standing eerily in the schoolyard, staring at me. That whole part was beyond stupid. You can’t tell me that absolutely no one say him & didn’t do fu*k all about it.

I know it was a smaller town but still. Come on!

Well...

Spoiler:
Not attempting to justify anything...but you have to realize that the 70's was before TMZ.com, YouTube and "To Catch A Predator". There were no home computers, cell phones, etc. Life was slightly simpler back then. (As far as doing something and not having it broadcast across the country/world was concerned.)

Let's also remember it was Halloween...

BravesMG 09-04-07 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Well...

Spoiler:
Not attempting to justify anything...but you have to realize that the 70's was before TMZ.com, YouTube and "To Catch A Predator". There were no home computers, cell phones, etc. Life was slightly simpler back then. (As far as doing something and not having it broadcast across the country/world was concerned.)

Let's also remember it was Halloween...

But I guess that goes back to the time period for that sequence. It still seems like it's supposed to be present day, or at least close.


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