Before I saw who's name was attatched, I seriously thought it was a joke review trying to get a response.

Nope, I genuinely dug the movie.

When I read your review, I actually genuinely thought you were doing a parody review, but I see now that i'm wrong.

Just saw it...starts off decent with the disturbing backstory, but once Michael becomes an adult, it goes downhill pretty fast. I thought it was a terrible decision to make Michael the size of a WWE wrestler. There were also way too many plot holes, the biggest being how the hell did Michael know that Laurie was his sister? A big disappointment overall. Does anybody know if John Carpenter has seen it and what his reaction is? My guess is that no matter what he says, he hated it.

No matter what he says, he hated it? That doesn't make much sense to me.

Those are two pretty good examples. I really can't understand how one can say that shaking the camera really hard when Michael dispatches a victim is effective in creating tension/horror/suspense for this flick.

Hey! :mad: :(

:lol: Hey, look! It's a cap from a good remake..

Don't worry, you're still cool. :p

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Going to see it in about a half hour - so far things are going as expected for me with the dvd talk reviewers being positive and the forum members being negative. Looks like I may end up actually enjoying this film but I'm still NOT getting my hopes up - I'm going in with the mindset that it's only going to be medicore at best - we'll see what happens.

But the most important review of all is not in yet....

....I won't be seeing it until tomorrow morning, and then I'll give it to you.

Wow, Supermallet really did seem to love it. I'm glad someone enjoyed it... now if only Jaguar Paw had been wearing 'The Shape' mask ;)

SuperMallet wasnt the only one who enjoyed it...

at my theater which was sold out, the film got a pretty lengthy applause at the end and everyone was saying how great it was.

while i personally didn't think it was "great", it did have it moments and was an enjoyable movie experience. i would recommend it.

I thought it was great. It was not Carpeter's Halloween and was not meant to be. Rob Zombie has made his own movie with nods to the original. This movie was tense and brutal, as it was ment to be. It brought Micheal Myers into the real world. My wife almost left between the shovel scene and when Micheal was arrested, not because she hated the movie, but because she just couldn't take it. Now thats a friggin' horror movie!


DVD talkers opinions don't really mean that much to me anyway... everyone seemed to love Transformers... nuff said

Oh, I enjoyed it as well. Only had 1 or two little gripes. Its nowhere near disastors like Psycho or Wicker Man.

I'm just curious as to how they plan to follow this up as far as the ending went ...

Hey, I loved Transformers, too. I just think that a lot of people are letting the original cloud their judgment of this film. I'd barely even call it a remake (although technically it is, of course), it just has such a different feel. Nonetheless, I will be rewatching Carpenter's Halloween soon, just so I can get a new feel for it in the wake of Zombie's version.

I disagree when you say that it's just people not letting go of the original when watching this. I thought that this film was poorly made on a technical level, not just the storyline (although that was a mess as well). The directing was awful, the acting was poor from many people (not a huge shocker or even a big deal for a horror film, but still..). The camera shaking violently during the scene where Laurie, Lindsay, and Tommy are hiding in the bathtub was so over the top that I had absolutely no idea what was going on. It was distracting, frankly. The movie had no suspense, zero. I hated the characters. Laurie's friend Linda was one of the most obnoxious movie characters i've seen in a long time. In fact, a lot of characters in this movie were.

The opening scene with the family felt like it was a parody of what a bad family life is like. It was a joke, and it's too bad because it's the scene that starts off the movie and shows us what is in store for us.

I respect the opinion of people who like this movie, but I know that my liking the original was NOT what stood in the way of me enjoying this film.

I hope they don't. I really hate the idea that Myers is invincible for some unexplained reason. At least in this film they made him massive, so all the damage he took (none of which was fatal the way it was in the original) might slow him down (as it did) but not kill him. What we get at the end should be just that: The end. I don't think Zombie would come back for another go, and even if they do go for a sequel, is it just going to be a remake of II? Considering Loomis is out of the picture, I think that would make for a most boring film.

If they make another Halloween, I hope it's Halloween 9. I don't want to see another Halloween in this world they made for the remake.

Whenever the next "Halloween" movie rolls around, I expect it to be completely different from this film, and the previous series.

I think they'll basically make a stand-alone film again.

Why? Too many people hated Resurrection, so studios aren't going to take the gamble of continuing off that. In addition, too many people didn't like this movie either, so studios, once again, aren't going to take the gamble of continuing off this.

I expect it to be the type of film which basically stands alone, and doesn't really reference anything else. Probably for the best...

See, I thought it was Zombie's most technically proficient film to date. There are tons of amazingly composed shots that litter the film, and constantly had me interested on a visual level. As for the storyline being a mess, it's not all that different from the storyline of the original. Yes, we get the added angle of Myers knowing Laurie is his sister from the beginning, and more of his childhood, but I don't think the film really strays terribly far from what Carpenter set up the first time around.

What about the directing was awful? Again, I loved the cinematography, the musical choices, and yes, the editing. It was very frenetic and in your face, just like everything Rob Zombie has done. The shaky cam I wasn't loving, but I didn't hate it, either. What I did love was the sound design, which really added a sense of menace. And no, it didn't have suspense. Zombie wasn't going for suspense. You know that Myer is going to kill everyone but Laurie and that no one will be able to stop him. Zombie makes that pretty clear from the moment he escapes the asylum.

As for the characters, I don't see what was so annoying about them. William Forsythe was over the top, but I found him to be pretty hilarious. The teenage girls were acting like teenage girls and were less annoying in my mind than the characters in Carpenter's version.

Surprise, that's what Rob Zombie does. He has an uber-dysfunctional white trash family in all of his movies, which then leads to someone in the family (if not all of them) killing people. In that way, I thought Halloween was a perfect progression from his last two movies.

So you think you went in with a completely clean slate, or could it be that perhaps your perceptions might have been colored a little by the status of the original and your appreciation of it? And I'll believe you if you say that you specifically were not influenced by the original, but I can tell that some of the posters on here were.

I would prefer a standalone, it would actually be more in line with Carpenter's original idea of the Halloween series being like an anthology of short stories, each one different. Of course, I don't think he intended each film to have Michael Myers. But I think if they do a sequel, it probably will be considered a sequel to this one, as even though a lot of people here are voicing displeasure, it's doing good business, and the last thing studios want to do is throw out a potential cash cow.

My favorite horror film of all time is the original "Dawn of the Dead". However, I really enjoyed the remake of Dawn of the Dead back in 2004. I thought it was a lot of fun. I wanted to like the remake of Halloween. I approached it as a new film, not comparing it to the original.

My reasons for disliking this were not that it "wasn't the Michael I know and love" or that it was "different from the original". I didn't like the movie. Aside from the things i've said about it above, I don't have much else to say about it. I don't doubt that Rob Zombie can make a good film (I haven't seen Devil's Rejects but have heard a lot of good stuff about it).

I found the family stuff at the beginning to be poorly written and acted. It's fine if it's "Robs thing" to have that kind of family in each of his films, but I felt it was done poorly in this movie.

Like I said, I'm not accusing you of going in with a closed mind. And it's funny, I consider Dawn '04 to be a really poor film as far as the script and acting are concerned, way more so than Halloween.

With these films, the acting isn't a deal breaker (at least not for me). I only mentioned it when I was thinking about the things that could have been improved. It's really more about "was I entertained" by the film and did I like it? With this remake, I wasn't entertained and I didn't like the movie.

It's ok, I understand that you're not saying I was being closed minded. I actually enjoy discussing this kind of stuff with others, because i'll probably see the movie again on DVD someday and I might find something in it that I enjoy.

Yeah, at least it's stimulating some good discussion. As for the family, I guess it's a take it or leave it kind of thing. To you, that started the movie and you thought "This is ridiculous. Is this the kind of movie Zombie's trying to make?" And I saw the opening and thought, "Okay, awesome, we're squarely in Rob Zombie's world. Let's see where this goes" and went from there.

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Just got back from seeing it. Loved It. I don't call that being super-human so nothing dissapointing there.

Pretty much everything else I have to say was already summed up by supermallet - my thoughts exactly.

Do I like it better than the original? Yep, I do. Do I still love the original? Kinda sorta but my thoughts on it have nothing to do with the remake/re-imaging or whatever bullshit ya wanna call it (it's a remake though) ;) - my issue with the original is that it was/is extremely boring to sit through and loses its affect fast. I have been watching the original on and off for quite sometime now (even before the news of the remake) and I always find myself stopping it before it's over. Zombie's version shows the true sickness of a psychopath and the horrible things they are capable of and he throws it right in your face. Where as Carpenter (as we all know) took the subtle approach and used the tension as his driving force but ya know what kids? There ain't much lasting appeal there. Sorry to say but it's not scary. With that said, I'm not a believer in "the gorier the better" not at all but with a character like Myers, it's necessary and shows the true sickness behind the mask also add to that the fact that Zombie did (Whether you agree or not - he DID) throw a lot of the original method used by Carpenter into his film that made it work all the more better.

Sure some of the shitty dialouge turned me off but it wasn't that bad and Sherri-Moon was not bad at all as well.

Glad I did not wait for this to hit DVD first and I love that the day scenes were not overdone - he gave us just enough.