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Old 05-24-06 | 10:30 PM
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I'm not sensing a lot of love in this thread. Group hug everybody!

Old 05-25-06 | 12:16 AM
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OK well getting back to rating the movie here is my opinion:

I thought overall the movie was great, I would give it 4 stars (out of 5). The movie was long, but IMHO they were still squeezing stuff in. They didn't go into the albino's history like the book did. A lot of stuff was revealed earlier in the movie then in the book I guess to sort of speed the story up. Bottom line is i think this movie shoulf of been even longer. I liked all the twists at the end. And overall the subject matter was very interesting. I am really not a Ron Howard fan, Cinderalla man made me sick, but i think he did well with this flick. Oh and btw please read my Rant which I Will post after I submit this regarding a matter I have to endure watchng this film. Click on my profile and view other posts.
Old 05-25-06 | 01:37 PM
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Pretty decent...loved the elaborate flashbacks/visuals. (i was wondering how they spent 125mill on this movie!)

Hanks was pretty wooden, but that was likely how he was playing it. Langdon isn't a flashy role by any means.

I was a amazed that they actually succeeded in making the film more offensive than I felt the book was. By putting Christ's divinity on the line much more (an effort to raise the stakes and motivations of the characters imo) And then at the end trying to soften it by saying it wouldn't really matter if he was human or divine. Do they simply have no clue about Christianity or do they really think we're gonna buy that?

The book adaptation was so-so, the compressing of the 2nd half was pretty bad I thought, esp changing certain characters fates and motivations.

All in all an ok thriller, but the visual style won me over.
Old 05-26-06 | 07:04 AM
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I had someone like Sam Neill in mind for Langdon, and I didn't really buy Tom Hanks.

I thought that the movie was good, not great. It seemed to lessen the role of Sophie in the solving of the puzzles, and I agree that there was no real chemistry between the two leads. It's not a DVD that I would purchase, as I don't think that I would be interested in seeing it multiple times.
Old 05-26-06 | 11:37 AM
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Another thing... the movie felt like I was watching a video game. Search for clues, solve a puzzle, chase scene, cutscene explaining some of the story, find more clues, solve another puzzle, another chase, etc.
Old 05-26-06 | 07:41 PM
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Well I say it today (and have read the book) and enjoyed it. I don't understand all the negativity AT ALL. It was entertaining, close to the book and featured good actors. What else do people need?

edit: After reading most of this thread, I am beginning to lose a lot of faith in this board and Internet movie-lovers in general. Calling Ron Howard or Tom Hanks a clown is quite possibly the most idiotic/ignorant shit ever to grace a computer screen.

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Old 05-26-06 | 11:40 PM
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Saw it. Loved it. Also loved the book. As usual, I make up MY OWN MIND, and leave the critics and others with their own agendas to their own thoughts.
Old 05-27-06 | 03:39 AM
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I agree about there being not much chemistry between the two leads, besides which I felt Hanks was too grumpy and formal as Langdon IMO.
I've got further into the book now (probably about 2/3 of the way by now)
Old 05-29-06 | 03:03 PM
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Watched it last night, felt it dragged on for ages in the last 1/2 hour. I read the book, enjoyed it for what it was, and am one of the ones who think that Hanks was totally miscast in this role.

I don't know who else I'd have cast in the langon role, but I think Tom wasn't very believable. I do see why he was in the film though. Tom Hanks - Everyman.
Old 05-29-06 | 03:51 PM
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Why are people criticizing Hanks? Isn't Langdon a reserved, Harvard professor? Do we expect him to break out in some martial arts moves? He played the role well, that's how you would expect a professor to handle those situations (wit as opposed to muscle).
Old 05-31-06 | 03:51 PM
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Merely an average flick. I did enjoy hearing what Audrey sounded like speaking English. One of my friends that went with us is a huge Christian history buff and he was scoffing through the whole thing. Made me laugh because you can't enjoy this movie if you take it too seriously. I didn't read the book, but I'll bet it was more fun than the movie.
Old 05-31-06 | 08:20 PM
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Saw this flick today, I plan to read the book sometime this summer. I don't see what all the negativity is about. This film is a modern day, yet more toned down Indiana Jones type adventure. I know I had a good time in the theater. There were moments I saw coming, some I didn't. Do you have to suspend your disbelief? Sure, but you have to do that as well if you read something like the Bible and actually take things word for word. It's not anti-religion or anti-catholic at all. I was shocked at how many times it defended the other view.

I have a spoiler question about the book and movie that was brought up in a earlier spoiler.
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So what exactly was her "fake" grandfather doing by having sex in a ritual? Someone mentioned earlier that it was her real grandmother that he was having sex with in the book. Were they trying to get pregnant in case Sophie was killed to continue the bloodline?

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Old 05-31-06 | 08:23 PM
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I saw it Saturday night. It was the worst movie I've seen in years. It had absolutely no redeeming qualities, and looked amateurish as hell. How Ron Howard has an Oscar for Best Director has to be a far bigger mystery than anything in this putrid, absurd movie.

Oh, and BTW, my criticisms have absolutely nothing to do with any pro- or anti-Catholic bias I might have. I'd hate to be misunderstood about this - I think the people who protest against this movie are even sillier and more dunderheaded than the movie itself.
Old 06-01-06 | 07:16 PM
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Finally saw it this afternoon... and it was okay. I liked the book alot better and was amazed at some of the stuff that they left out and other parts that they took great liberties in.

I'd give this 2 1/2 out of 4 stars.

I liked the acting and the locations (what was funny is that I got back from two weeks in London and Paris and visited the Louvre and Westminister Abbey.

Here are my gripes:

Spoiler:
- Losing the inner cryptic and using the inner ones password to open the outer cryptic was strange to me, but I can see how those who haven't read the book wouldn't pick it up.

- Using the 'library card' -- ahem -- internet ready cel phone to get the A. Pope clue was a bit dumb-down. I liked the interaction of the librarian when she recognized Langdon.

- Interrupting his book signing rather than pulling him out of bed in the middle of the night. I thought the latter was more dramatic.

- Showing Teabing over the body of Remy... it was too early to show him. Couple that with Sophie's seeing the dust tracks of the shoeprints and cane marks and the twist is ruined before it happens.

- Silas getting shot right there rather than being found dead in the park.

- The omission of her brother at the end and the gathering of the 'priory' folks.

- I was really upset that Aringarosa told the council what he was going to do with the money. That whole rearrangement made me cringe and it didn't help the story.

+ I loved the flashbacks in history while Langdon and Teabing were talking.

+ I also liked the 'effects' that were used while Langdon was solving the anagrams and the cryptic.


I would have liked the movie to have been a half an hour longer and a few things weaved back in. I wouldn't have minded it much. Since I had read the book first, I think I was a bit biased walking in.

I won't be buying the DVD, but if I could borrow it from someone I might watch it again.

One last thing... I had no problem with the central plot of the film or book and see it as quite plausable.

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Old 06-11-06 | 01:49 AM
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Just saw it - LOVED it! This whole thread is just set up to bash it - primo defense strategy from the catholic spinsters out there (ok its flamebait, i take it partially back.. only partially - just check the title...).

Movie is gorgeous, exciting, I thought well paced and very interesting. They really translated the symbols and imagery well to the big screen.

Ian McKellen was bloody brilliant, Tom & Audrey good too. Paul Bettany i wasnt quiiite buying, but that was ok.

Definitely getting the DVD, cant wait for the commentary. Also think its quite a plausible story.
Old 06-11-06 | 01:50 AM
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So what exactly was her "fake" grandfather doing by having sex in a ritual? Someone mentioned earlier that it was her real grandmother that he was having sex with in the book. Were they trying to get pregnant in case Sophie was killed to continue the bloodline?
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There is a lot in the book about the sacred feminine and how its worshipped.. dont remember the details, but its a worshipping thing fun orgy all in one
Old 06-11-06 | 04:21 AM
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Saw it last week and I generally enjoyed it. The Flashbacks, the "Biblcal history", the settings, and other things made this a decent flick. I'm not a Ron Howard fan and I think he's waaay overrated so I didn't go in with any expectations of being blown away by an awesome cinematic masterpiece.
Old 06-11-06 | 09:28 AM
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Just saw it - LOVED it! This whole thread is just set up to bash it - primo defense strategy from the catholic spinsters out there (ok its flamebait, i take it partially back.. only partially - just check the title...).

Movie is gorgeous, exciting, I thought well paced and very interesting. They really translated the symbols and imagery well to the big screen.

Ian McKellen was bloody brilliant, Tom & Audrey good too. Paul Bettany i wasnt quiiite buying, but that was ok.

Definitely getting the DVD, cant wait for the commentary. Also think its quite a plausible story.
If you take the trouble of perusing throught this thread, you will see that there are no posts from Catholic spinsters, only two groups of posters:

(1) people who think the film is OK, but not great; and

(2) people (like me) who think Ron Howard and his (cough) script-writer have watered down the story so much, the film might as well have been made with the lucrative Catholic Spinster market in mind.
Old 06-11-06 | 09:43 AM
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There is a lot in the book about the sacred feminine and how its worshipped.. dont remember the details, but its a worshipping thing fun orgy all in one
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That was a weak point in the book, made even weaker in the film. The heroine's grandfather, as head of his Order, was expected to participate in a sexual ritual with his mate (his wife who was living in England but was assumed dead for security reasons) as part of the sacred feminine celebration. When Sophie accidentally saw him in action, she was "schocked" that her grandpa would indulge in such rude behaviour and cut off all relations with him. [This is not very realistic as no Frenchwoman I ever knew was ever shocked by any form of sexual propensity in her family, as far as I can tell.] In the book, her "schock" was alleviated when she found out her grandfather was actually having sex with his own wife, whom she had assumed was deceased, and not with "another woman" [more improbable, puritan American moralizing hogwash here]. In the film, the whole thing is swept under a carpet of mystery, secrecy and prudery, so that it can't be assumed that a descendant of Jesus Christ would indulge in any form of sexual impropriety. We know Sophie sees "something" that may be a sexual ritual but no mention is ever made that her grandfather is directly involved, which makes anyone who didn't read the book wonder endelessly what the hell got the girl's goose up for 20-odd years. When it is revealed that Sophie's grandfather is only adoptive and not biological (not in the book), this is somehow supposed to alleviate her shock at whatever we thought we were looking at that we can't be sure of because of the complete whitewash job in the script. And the revelation that her grandmother is still alive is still a completely befuddling - and almost comic - mystery since we don't know (and the film doesn't tell us) whether that woman is supposed to be her adoptive grandfather's widow, or the surviving mother of one of her deceased biological parents. By this point, most viewers who have read the book have seriously ceased to care one way or another and only think of heading for the john, getting their money back or punching Ron Howard in the face.

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Old 06-14-06 | 07:11 AM
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I'm almost at the end of the book now, think its much better than the film.

Spoiler:
The reveal of Teabing as the Teacher (?) responsible for killing Sophie's grandfather is very well done.
Why is exactly is Sophie "shocked"? Everyone gets a shock to find their parents still have sex so maybe finding her grandparents do is a double shocker, but as far as I can see she saw "something" like her grandfather having sex with his own wife in a sexual ritual.
I noticed the second Cryptex wasnt in the film. The bit where they find about "A Pope" using some guy's mobile in the film seemed very dumbed down.

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