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Old 06-18-06 | 01:19 PM
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Jet Li should have never came to Hollywood.

I can't help but wish that these Kung Fu stars didn't exist. Last thing we need is for Hong Kong actors to enforce the stereotypes of the wacky looking kung fu.
Old 06-18-06 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by William Wallace
Jet Li should have never came to Hollywood.

I can't help but wish that these Kung Fu stars didn't exist. Last thing we need is for Hong Kong actors to enforce the stereotypes of the wacky looking kung fu.
Wow, you wish they didn't exist? That seems really harsh. The Chinese are the ones who started the "wacky looking kung fu" movies, so it's not like they are conforming to some Western stereotype of themselves.
Old 06-18-06 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
Wow, you wish they didn't exist? That seems really harsh. The Chinese are the ones who started the "wacky looking kung fu" movies, so it's not like they are conforming to some Western stereotype of themselves.
One thing that annoys me is when there is an Asian character and he just has to use some goofy looking Kung Fu.

I would honestly rather see Jet Li in some drama playing a non Kung Fu character.

This is what is great about Korean movies. They aren't over the top kung fu/john woo bullets flying everywhere flicks.

Up until a couple years ago, the other ppl in my class would make lame asian jokes to me, and automatically think I'm chinese, making lame ass kung fu jokes.

Nowadays I still come across ppl who associate my name with Bruce Lee(usually black ppl do this to me, don't know why. they make some bruce lee joke to me and its annoying as fuck. They play up the race card so much its hypocritical)

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Old 06-18-06 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by William Wallace
One thing that annoys me is when there is an Asian character and he just has to use some goofy looking Kung Fu.

I would honestly rather see Jet Li in some drama playing a non Kung Fu character.

This is what is great about Korean movies. They aren't over the top kung fu/john woo bullets flying everywhere flicks.

Up until a couple years ago, the other ppl in my class would make lame asian jokes to me, and automatically think I'm chinese, making lame ass kung fu jokes.

Nowadays I still come across ppl who associate my name with Bruce Lee(usually black ppl do this to me, don't know why. they make some bruce lee joke to me and its annoying as fuck. They play up the race card so much its hypocritical)
You should be using your Asian-ness and the fact that people think you are a martial artist to your advantage.
Old 06-18-06 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Will this get a R1 release? I love Jet Li's old Chinese films, like Wing Chun et.al.
Wing Chun is not a Jet Li movie
Old 06-18-06 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by William Wallace
One thing that annoys me is when there is an Asian character and he just has to use some goofy looking Kung Fu.

I would honestly rather see Jet Li in some drama playing a non Kung Fu character.
Having Jet Li do a movie without Kung Fu would be like having Jenna Jameson in a movie without sex.

It also sounds like you are using your personal problems as a reason to hate martial arts films. There are plenty of good martial arts flicks and they don't have "goofy looking kung fu".
Old 06-18-06 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
You should be using your Asian-ness and the fact that people think you are a martial artist to your advantage.
Would that mean he needs to exercise his free asian-cy?
Old 06-18-06 | 10:59 PM
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What is "goofy looking kung fu" and how does it apply to this movie?
Old 09-21-06 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo


This? It's a 3 sectional staff.. made famous in 36th Chamber of Shaolin (aka Master Killer)
A clip re three section staff vs the samurai katana

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_9979.html

review from the same site
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_9019.html

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Old 09-21-06 | 05:40 PM
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Ive been waiting a while for this one...Looks like its coming soon. Any word as to whether or not the US theatrical release will be cut like most are?
the question still hasn't been answered... anyone?

Originally Posted by William Wallace
Jet Li should have never came to Hollywood.

I can't help but wish that these Kung Fu stars didn't exist. Last thing we need is for Hong Kong actors to enforce the stereotypes of the wacky looking kung fu.
the same also apples to Chow Yun Fat - should be interesting to see him in the next Pirates of the Caribbean film.
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Originally Posted by FantasticVSDoom
Ive been waiting a while for this one...Looks like its coming soon. Any word as to whether or not the US theatrical release will be cut like most are?
Originally Posted by Giles
the question still hasn't been answered... anyone?
it's the same length of 104mins so it is the cut version.

RT has critics rating is 73%; users rating 93% currently

There is some audiences review here

http://www.oracle-base.com/blog/2006/07/03/fearless/

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.s...2&rnum=2&hl=en

http://groups.google.com/group/Briti...rnum=124&hl=en

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=673600

http://boards.ign.com/hong_kong_flic...9564550/p1/?12

http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94921

http://www.eugenewei.com/mtweblog/archives/002770.html

http://withoutwax.livejournal.com/170372.html

http://theravensword.livejournal.com/17923.html

http://www.allocine.fr/film/critique...lm=109208.html

http://p081.ezboard.com/fkungfufando...tart=1&stop=20

http://p081.ezboard.com/fkungfufando...cID=2720.topic

http://film.guardian.co.uk/Reader_Re...112978,00.html

http://community.channel4.com/eve/fo...2/m/6530037315
Old 09-22-06 | 10:23 AM
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does anyone know if the us release is uncut?
Old 09-22-06 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by syphon00
does anyone know if the us release is uncut?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446059/

Probably the same cut ... the runtime listed is only a minute or two less than a few other international releases.

I'm on board for tonight - can't wait!
Old 09-22-06 | 09:27 PM
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Went and watched it tonight...I enjoyed it. Seemed to stretch Jet Li's acting chops a little bit more. Little sappy, but still pretty fun.
Old 09-22-06 | 10:10 PM
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great action scenes, but the middle really kind of came to a screeching halt... good but not great if you ask me.
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I saw it tonight at the Cinerama Dome, and aside from an apparent bad DTS disc, I really liked the movie. I was actually impressed that in the middle, they didn't feel the need to force another fight into the movie. That is one thing that bothers me a lot in films of this type; that they feel like they need to rush through the character development and exposition in order to get to the next ass kicking. To me, the middle was important to the rest of the film, however slow it may have made the film seem.

Also, I'm curious to know what was cut out of this version, and to see the complete version at some point. There seemed to be a couple of abrupt scene transitions but it could have been that way in the original film. It's hard to say for sure.

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Old 09-23-06 | 03:43 PM
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i saw this in theatres today. i really enjoyed the action scenes of course, but did find the middle to be important to the character development like finkpish said. can't wait to pick it up on dvd.
Old 09-23-06 | 09:28 PM
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I thought it was okay, not as gripping as I had hoped. Other problems were a soggy 2nd act, and the lead character didn't feel as fully realized as I had hoped before the film moved into the mid-section. The fights were good, but not as engrossing because of the use of jump snips (where they would take out a few frames here and there during the action sequences to force a cinematic style to the fights at times). It's still worth a matinee viewing if you are a fan of Jet Li, or the genre.

I give it 2.75 stars, or a grade of B-.
Old 09-23-06 | 11:56 PM
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I actually wasn't expecting a lot since I read a few negative reviews, but this movie was excellent. I pretty much loved almost everything about it. Ronny Yu knows how to direct this kind of flick and does it with great style. Li was fine and the martial arts sequences were spectacular. I didn't find the 2nd act tiresome or dull and really was drawn into the story because of it. The only thing I didn't like was the very last scene, which was a bit corny...

On an unrelated note, leaving the theatre, I couldn't help but think that if Jet Li, Tony Jaa and Ronny Yu got together and did a "Mortal Kombat" movie, it would fucking rule (Yu could use his horror chops to bring some serious MK gore to the fights, Li would make a kick ass villain and Jaa IS Liu Kang....) Think about it.

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Old 09-24-06 | 12:11 AM
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idiot question, is this version fully subtitled where applicable, or is it dubbed?
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It was subtitled at my showing.
Old 09-24-06 | 11:58 AM
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Unless I zoned out during that scene i'm pretty sure that arm breaking scene with Master Chin got cut out, and yeah it was subtitled
Old 09-25-06 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
I saw it tonight at the Cinerama Dome, and aside from an apparent bad DTS disc.
this was released in digital sound?! The print that AMC Georgetown got was pathetic and not digital since all the reel changes were accompanied with an audible click. I thought the sound design was terribly lacking.
Old 09-26-06 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by William Wallace
Nowadays I still come across ppl who associate my name with Bruce Lee(usually black ppl do this to me, don't know why. they make some bruce lee joke to me and its annoying as fuck. They play up the race card so much its hypocritical)
When I was growing up in the 70's a lot of my black friends considered Bruce Lee soul brother #1. It just means he crossed all racial boundaries and blacks had a great respect for him. I think they might be playing off that because maybe younger people have heard that from their parents. That may be the case w/ them messing with you. I'm sure it's not a negative thing.

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Old 09-26-06 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mdc3000
On an unrelated note, leaving the theatre, I couldn't help but think that if Jet Li, Tony Jaa and Ronny Yu got together and did a "Mortal Kombat" movie, it would fucking rule (Yu could use his horror chops to bring some serious MK gore to the fights, Li would make a kick ass villain and Jaa IS Liu Kang....) Think about it.

MATT

Tony Jaa was a stunt double for Robin Shou in "Mortal Combat" .


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