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Old 09-25-06 | 09:35 PM
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My problem wasn't that she talked like a 20 year old. It was that she didn't talk like a person of any age would. Whatever her age was, I just wasn't buying it.
Not sure I understand, what did she say that no one of any age would say? I thought the dialog was intelligent, but not terribly forced. She was clearly a bright girl, but nothing really jumped out at me as unreal.
Old 09-25-06 | 09:52 PM
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Ooh, I like the new spoiler tags!
Old 09-26-06 | 02:03 AM
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I saw the film the other day and was pretty diappointed. It just didn't live up to all the hype. And I found myself saying "how could she have done this/that" way too many times throughout the film. But my biggest problem with the film was,

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Why the hell didn't Sandra Oh's character say anything about the blood on the girl's forhead??? How does someone just let that slide???
Old 09-28-06 | 01:32 AM
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I thought she mentioned something about the cut on the head.
Old 09-28-06 | 03:05 AM
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@ The End Why couldnt he have just climbed back down the ladder when Janelle showed up????
Old 09-28-06 | 03:43 AM
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Not quite sure what you're asking. Hayley was going to expose Jeff if he didn't kill himself (and as it turns out, even if he did kill himself). Jeff loved Janelle still, and couldn't live with her knowing about his pedophilia. Basically, Hayley was giving him a 'way out', although it would involve him killing himself. If he climbed down the ladder, Hayley made it very clear that she would run crying into Janelle's arms and expose Jeff.
Old 09-28-06 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by onebyone
My problem wasn't that she talked like a 20 year old. It was that she didn't talk like a person of any age would. Whatever her age was, I just wasn't buying it.
That's funny because usually the little know-it-all young girls like Dakota Fanning annoy the living hell out of me but I didn't find myself annoyed by Page's character.

I do believe she was supposed to be 14 but an extremely bright 14 year old. The kind of prodigy that's so smart, they're unstable. And though she didn't say anything about it in the movie, I assumed she was molested by her father.
Old 09-29-06 | 11:24 AM
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I think she was 18-19 when she did the movie...and I went to school with a few girls that were like that...they saw themselves as over-intelligent and way too smart for the rest of this...one happened to be diminutive, looked like a boy, talked like 58 year old college professer and did in fact did get arrested for stalking my roomate's friend...
Old 09-29-06 | 11:33 PM
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Ok I finally saw this movie tonight. I thought it was pretty good. I thought it built up well but the ending was a bit of a let down. I didn't have any hype surrounding the film so I came off liking it pretty well. I thought the acting was pretty good. It was pretty amazing what they did with only 5 cast members. Before I get into the spoilers, I think that was the first time I ever saw Sandra Oh up close before. Good God is she a FUGLY woman! She makes that Asian chick from Sin City look stunning. I had to fight myself between turning away from the TV and the curiousity to keep looking while wondering how this chick is actually famous. Anyway onto the spoilers...

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Ok, where did all the blood come from? After the faux castration, did she cut herself? Second, did she cause the other guy to kill himself as well? That wasn't clear to me. I suppose the ending wasn't satisfying to me because it came off as a simple revenge thing. Having her actually cut his balls off and then sent off to jail would've been much more effective. All in all it wasn't bad. Could've done without horseface though.
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I think that was the first time I ever saw Sandra Oh up close before. Good God is she a FUGLY woman! She makes that Asian chick from Sin City look stunning. I had to fight myself between turning away from the TV and the curiousity to keep looking while wondering how this chick is actually famous.

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Ok, where did all the blood come from? After the faux castration, did she cut herself? Second, did she cause the other guy to kill himself as well? That wasn't clear to me. I suppose the ending wasn't satisfying to me because it came off as a simple revenge thing. Having her actually cut his balls off and then sent off to jail would've been much more effective. All in all it wasn't bad. Could've done without horseface though.
Her scene was the only part of the movie I hated. For 3 reasons; 1. Why would you ask a perfect stranger if they baby-sit? 2. Why didn't you ask her about the cut on her forehead? 3. What business is it of hers that the kid was on the roof and why would she even question her answer about why she was up there?

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I assumed she brought it with her along with the testicles(from med school). I don't think she says it explicitly but I think that's what we're led to believe when she says the guy told her it was Jeff that killed the girl before he killed himself. Otherwise, why would the guy offer that information to HER before he killed himself?

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Old 09-30-06 | 05:15 PM
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This didn't work for me because we're supposed to root for the captor while she tortures her hostage......
Actually we're not.
Since we don't know for sure what Jeff has done, we are supposed to think about who's worst - him or her.

Maybe he's a pedophilie but she's without a doubt absolutely fucking insane!
Old 09-30-06 | 05:43 PM
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Wow...I hated this movie. Both characters were unsympathetic and a lot of the situation felt contrived. The cinematography also pissed me off...the constant barage of medium/close ups actually drove me out of the story instead of pulling me in...the movie also overstayed it's welcome - had this been 20 minutes shorter it may not have felt tedious but I just kept waiting for it to end. Sandra Oh's character was pointless and that scene only served as a minor break in the back and forth between our 2 main characters - but it was too little too late. I had heard great things about the movie from a few people but I just hated the whole thing (except the acting which was pretty good).

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Old 09-30-06 | 05:49 PM
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Actually we're not.
Since we don't know for sure what Jeff has done, we are supposed to think about who's worst - him or her.

Maybe he's a pedophilie but she's without a doubt absolutely fucking insane!
That's another one of the reasons why I liked the movie. Obviously, the pedophile is the assumed villain of the movie, but he is a nice guy and she's totally fucking crazy. Any movie that can make you sympathize with both the hero and the villain gets a thumbs up from me, especially one where the villain is a pedophile.
Old 10-03-06 | 04:12 PM
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Not sure I understand, what did she say that no one of any age would say? I thought the dialog was intelligent, but not terribly forced. She was clearly a bright girl, but nothing really jumped out at me as unreal.
Yeah, I don't get these comments either. I've known bright teenagers who talk like she did --but then, maybe my boys just dated smart girls. She clearly wasn't meant to represent the average teen you hear talking on their cell phone at the local multiplex. It's it a bit ridiculous to contend that there is no 14 year old who could talk this way, especially since her character was obviously intended to be "extraordinary."
Old 10-03-06 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
That's another one of the reasons why I liked the movie. Obviously, the pedophile is the assumed villain of the movie, but he is a nice guy and she's totally fucking crazy. Any movie that can make you sympathize with both the hero and the villain gets a thumbs up from me, especially one where the villain is a pedophile.
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That's true. I was actually praying he would snap her neck when he got her in the leglock while he was hanging.
Old 10-07-06 | 02:18 PM
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I'm watching X-Men 3 right now and totally didn't recognize that the girl playing Kittie Pride was the same girl from this movie. Pretty cool.
Old 10-08-06 | 01:35 AM
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The one thing I didn't get about this movie, concerning how 'smart' the girl talked.

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I can understand that they wanted to show this girl was intelligent and whatnot. Which was fine after she has the guy captured. But why would she have tried so hard to appear intelligent when she's first luring him in? It would seem to me that if you're trying to rope in a guy who is into 14 year olds, wouldn't you try to act more like a normal 14 year old?
Old 10-08-06 | 02:22 AM
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A friend and I rented this a week or two ago. I loved it, but it was too much for him to handle, so he spent most of the film's duration on his laptop, playing solitaire.
Old 10-14-06 | 07:20 PM
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Excellent film overall. It's a great idea, well executed and with great leads. It's also the only film to ever make me feel physically sick while watching.

But it's not perfect. Its pacing is inconsistent in places and my interest waned momentarily a couple of times. I think the film was just too long for the format. It's extremely rare that a film that so wholeheartedly relies on the interaction between just two leads can pull off a runtime longer than 90 mins. Deathtrap (Michael Caine, Christopher Reeve) and Sleuth (Michael Caine, Laurence Olivier) manage it, but Hard Candy would need a script, cast and director at another level entirely to pull it off. Its biggest flaw, however, is its poor ending. It's unsatisfying and unconvincing.

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Just watched this film on DVD. I have to agree with a lot of these negative comments but I'm surprised no one pointed out:

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granted she's pretty tough and a strong 14 year old but I just don't see how she could have lifted the guy into the wheel chair by herself, then lifted him up onto a gurney and then, hung him by his armpits to the ceiling! no way as I doubt I could do that and I'm a lot older and (hopefully) stronger.


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Old 07-23-07 | 06:45 PM
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I watched this a few moths ago and I really didn't dig on it too much. I hated the main girl for starters. Her dialogue, and the way she spoke, drove me nuts. I've never met a 14 year old in my life that articulate. The guy was a total pussy, too. I never found myself getting lost in the film. It didn't grab me like I was expecting it to. Sandra Oh was unnecessary. The "surgery" scene would have been good
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had it actually happened.
I still own the DVD but seeing this thread reminds me that I might want to sell it off. I don't see myself wanting to watch this again anytime soon.
Old 07-23-07 | 07:44 PM
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You know odds were she wasn't really 14.
Old 07-23-07 | 07:53 PM
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Regardless of age, she was small and not well-muscled. Lifting about 150 pounds of dead weight would have been nearly impossible for her.
Old 07-23-07 | 09:18 PM
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I found it particularly irritating because she was so presumptuous. I mean, as a character, okay, she knows something. But she wasn't there. She didn't see it happen. Her know-it-all attitude towards the guy is remarkably annoying, except it's even worse because as an audience member I have no outright reason to distrust the guy. Sure, he's kinda creepy but frankly a lot of movies with "twist" or potential "twist" endings do things like that to mislead the audience. I find it baffling and disturbing that the movie is, in some way, meant to be a witty crowd-pleaser as what the girl does is, in a different way, as horrible as what the guy does and yet the intention of the film seems to be that the girl is right.
I might have already posted this somewhere in here and I see that others agree with me but every time I hear about this movie I'm compelled to throw in my two cents.
Old 07-24-07 | 01:32 AM
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I found it particularly irritating because she was so presumptuous. I mean, as a character, okay, she knows something. But she wasn't there. She didn't see it happen. Her know-it-all attitude towards the guy is remarkably annoying, except it's even worse because as an audience member I have no outright reason to distrust the guy. Sure, he's kinda creepy but frankly a lot of movies with "twist" or potential "twist" endings do things like that to mislead the audience. I find it baffling and disturbing that the movie is, in some way, meant to be a witty crowd-pleaser as what the girl does is, in a different way, as horrible as what the guy does and yet the intention of the film seems to be that the girl is right.
I might have already posted this somewhere in here and I see that others agree with me but every time I hear about this movie I'm compelled to throw in my two cents.
That's part of what I think made the movie so interesting, is that there wasn't really a clear-cut antagonist and protagonist. In most movies of this type, it's pretty clear cut who you're supposed to root for, but in this movie the roles are blurred. Do you want the possible pedophile to get his, or do you want the poor guy to escape from the psycho bitch, or do you just roll with the punches?


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