More Brokeback crying...
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Originally Posted by LiquidSky
Agreed. The people who keep bitching about the "sour grapes" are just as annoying as the "sour grapes" themselves as they cannot seem to "let it go" either. 

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Agreed. The people who keep bitching about the "sour grapes" are just as annoying as the "sour grapes" themselves as they cannot seem to "let it go" either
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
All the whining in the world won't change what happened.
I kinda like what Roeper had to say about all the boo-hooing:
"Why is a film about two gay cowboys more noble than a film about race relations? Or a movie about an Israeli hit squad avenging the massacre at the Munich Olympic Games? Or a film about an author's book about the murders of an innocent family? Or a movie about a journalist's crusade against a witch-hunting senator?
In two decades of writing about movies, I have never heard such bitching and moaning and griping about a film not winning best picture. Enough is enough. You lost. Try to handle it with some grace."
I kinda like what Roeper had to say about all the boo-hooing:
"Why is a film about two gay cowboys more noble than a film about race relations? Or a movie about an Israeli hit squad avenging the massacre at the Munich Olympic Games? Or a film about an author's book about the murders of an innocent family? Or a movie about a journalist's crusade against a witch-hunting senator?
In two decades of writing about movies, I have never heard such bitching and moaning and griping about a film not winning best picture. Enough is enough. You lost. Try to handle it with some grace."
this. The best statement I've heard yet.
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Actually I'll be the one to call "bullshit" on Roeper's short-sighted statement.
2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.
And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.
And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
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Originally Posted by grunter
Actually I'll be the one to call "bullshit" on Roeper's short-sighted statement.
2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.
And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.
And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
in my book. Although FG wasn't a favorite of mine, I thought it was well made. Just didn't do anything for me. Same with BBM. As far as Shakespeare In Love winning, wasn't Elizabeth up that year? That's the only reason why I was pissed.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
When it comes to whining about Oscar wins, nothing beats the Star Wars fanboys. They've been griping about Annie Hall for nearly 30 years!
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
For what it's worth, I don't think the BBM supporters would have been nearly as foamy if something other than Crash had won.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Gonzo
I think Proulx has "yeasty ferment" of the brain. Buttcrack Mountain lost - deal with it. Whata bitch
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I read the writers comments, and it was pretty petty in my opinion. I think Crash was equally as compelling, in terms of dealing with a social issue. I don't think this writer even saw Crash to be honest.
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Best Picture winners aren't always the best picture, and sometimes the best one isn't even nominated. It's a fact of life, let's move on.
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
For what it's worth, I don't think the BBM supporters would have been nearly as foamy if something other than Crash had won.
I have to agree with this. I wonder why that is though, since I feel that way......
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Really? As someone whose been a SW fan since birth, I've never heard someone complain about it. After all, who gives a shit? Star Wars changed the movie industry and has touched more people worldwide than Annie Hall could ever hope to. Why bother being upset over something that really doesn't matter? Star Wars couldn't possibly have been more popular during its release. The Oscar really wouldn't have done much.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
It was one of the first blockbusters, as good as the first trilogy is, changed the industry forever and that is not necessarily a good thing. Now every Summer we are inindated with Mindless fluff but that's another topic.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Best Picture winners aren't always the best picture, and sometimes the best one isn't even nominated. It's a fact of life, let's move on.
Yes, as much as I wanted Brokeback to win, it's comforting to know that it's on the list of "losers" that includes Pulp Fiction, To Kill A Mockingbird and Citizen Kane, among others.
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Originally Posted by marty888
Yes, as much as I wanted Brokeback to win, it's comforting to know that it's on the list of "losers" that includes Pulp Fiction, To Kill A Mockingbird and Citizen Kane, among others.
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Originally Posted by conscience
With silly, immature comments like 'Buttcrack Mountain', no wonder supporters are whining.
Originally Posted by grunter
Actually I'll be the one to call "bullshit" on Roeper's short-sighted statement.
2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.
And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.
And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
Originally Posted by Kerborus
Cause we all know that Brokeback is a modern Citizen Kane... 

In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
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Originally Posted by conscience
With silly, immature comments like 'Buttcrack Mountain', no wonder supporters are whining.
Originally Posted by Annie Proulx
Rumour has it that Lionsgate inundated the academy voters with DVD copies of Trash - excuse me - Crash a few weeks before the ballot deadline.
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
But I guess silly, immature comments are okay if you are the whinning supporter...

That was where I was going with my comment.
And that is why the majority of people that like the film (BBM) are in a tizzy.
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Originally Posted by RagingBull80
Agreed.
You forgot Rocky winning over Taxi Driver and Ordinary People winning over Raging Bull.
I don't think that's what Marty was saying.
In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
You forgot Rocky winning over Taxi Driver and Ordinary People winning over Raging Bull.
I don't think that's what Marty was saying.
In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
It's sad to think that people need validation by a body that is biased in order to enjoy or think the movie they like is good. I'm guilty of that as well, btw, but a couple of years down the road, who cares?
Now if you needed that win as a needs to further your social progressive ideas than I don't know what to tell you...
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Originally Posted by RagingBull80
In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
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This thread is outrageous and insulting. Brokeback Mountain is a story about tragedy in the lives of four people. You people, who didn't enjoy the film, started months ago with jokes and comments that, if they were racial, would not have been tolerated anywhere. Furthermore, most people who love the movie aren't posting in these "crap" threads. Personally, I will only let so much idiocy fly before I say, "enough!" If you love the movie that was given the BP award on March 5th, good for you. Honestly, that winning isn't enough for you people says far more with regard to "character" than the displeasure some Brokeback fans, including Annie, are expressing about losing.
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