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Old 03-15-06 | 07:47 AM
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Agreed. The people who keep bitching about the "sour grapes" are just as annoying as the "sour grapes" themselves as they cannot seem to "let it go" either.
That's cool. At least the gays in this thread didn't call us Homophobes for thinking the woman is full of shit.
Old 03-15-06 | 08:05 AM
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Agreed. The people who keep bitching about the "sour grapes" are just as annoying as the "sour grapes" themselves as they cannot seem to "let it go" either
Another agreement...I think the Crash supporters doth proclaim too loudly...I wonder why...?
Old 03-15-06 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
All the whining in the world won't change what happened.

I kinda like what Roeper had to say about all the boo-hooing:

"Why is a film about two gay cowboys more noble than a film about race relations? Or a movie about an Israeli hit squad avenging the massacre at the Munich Olympic Games? Or a film about an author's book about the murders of an innocent family? Or a movie about a journalist's crusade against a witch-hunting senator?

In two decades of writing about movies, I have never heard such bitching and moaning and griping about a film not winning best picture. Enough is enough. You lost. Try to handle it with some grace."
Sorry...I have to this. The best statement I've heard yet.
Old 03-15-06 | 08:20 AM
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Sorry...I have to this. The best statement I've heard yet.
And I'll add another
Old 03-15-06 | 08:41 AM
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Actually I'll be the one to call "bullshit" on Roeper's short-sighted statement.

2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.

And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
Old 03-15-06 | 08:43 AM
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Actually I'll be the one to call "bullshit" on Roeper's short-sighted statement.

2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.

And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
Anything winning over a QT film is an automatic in my book. Although FG wasn't a favorite of mine, I thought it was well made. Just didn't do anything for me. Same with BBM.
As far as Shakespeare In Love winning, wasn't Elizabeth up that year? That's the only reason why I was pissed.
Old 03-15-06 | 08:49 AM
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When it comes to whining about Oscar wins, nothing beats the Star Wars fanboys. They've been griping about Annie Hall for nearly 30 years!
Old 03-15-06 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
When it comes to whining about Oscar wins, nothing beats the Star Wars fanboys. They've been griping about Annie Hall for nearly 30 years!
Really? As someone whose been a SW fan since birth, I've never heard someone complain about it. After all, who gives a shit? Star Wars changed the movie industry and has touched more people worldwide than Annie Hall could ever hope to. Why bother being upset over something that really doesn't matter? Star Wars couldn't possibly have been more popular during its release. The Oscar really wouldn't have done much.
Old 03-15-06 | 10:00 AM
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For what it's worth, I don't think the BBM supporters would have been nearly as foamy if something other than Crash had won.
Old 03-15-06 | 10:07 AM
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For what it's worth, I don't think the BBM supporters would have been nearly as foamy if something other than Crash had won.
Well, with the whole gay vs. black debate (with regards to civil rights), I could see why.
Old 03-15-06 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Gonzo
I think Proulx has "yeasty ferment" of the brain. Buttcrack Mountain lost - deal with it. Whata bitch
With silly, immature comments like 'Buttcrack Mountain', no wonder supporters are whining.
Old 03-15-06 | 11:23 AM
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I read the writers comments, and it was pretty petty in my opinion. I think Crash was equally as compelling, in terms of dealing with a social issue. I don't think this writer even saw Crash to be honest.
Old 03-15-06 | 11:31 AM
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Best Picture winners aren't always the best picture, and sometimes the best one isn't even nominated. It's a fact of life, let's move on.
Old 03-15-06 | 11:47 AM
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I wish I could quit these threads...
Old 03-15-06 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
For what it's worth, I don't think the BBM supporters would have been nearly as foamy if something other than Crash had won.

I have to agree with this. I wonder why that is though, since I feel that way......
Old 03-15-06 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Really? As someone whose been a SW fan since birth, I've never heard someone complain about it. After all, who gives a shit? Star Wars changed the movie industry and has touched more people worldwide than Annie Hall could ever hope to. Why bother being upset over something that really doesn't matter? Star Wars couldn't possibly have been more popular during its release. The Oscar really wouldn't have done much.
It was one of the first blockbusters, as good as the first trilogy is, changed the industry forever and that is not necessarily a good thing. Now every Summer we are inindated with Mindless fluff but that's another topic.
Old 03-15-06 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
It was one of the first blockbusters, as good as the first trilogy is, changed the industry forever and that is not necessarily a good thing. Now every Summer we are inindated with Mindless fluff but that's another topic.
But that's not Star Wars' fault. Star Wars wasn't mindless. There's a helluva lot more layers to it than any modern blockbuster. Everything else is just a cheap imitation.
Old 03-16-06 | 07:44 AM
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Best Picture winners aren't always the best picture, and sometimes the best one isn't even nominated. It's a fact of life, let's move on.

Yes, as much as I wanted Brokeback to win, it's comforting to know that it's on the list of "losers" that includes Pulp Fiction, To Kill A Mockingbird and Citizen Kane, among others.
Old 03-16-06 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by marty888
Yes, as much as I wanted Brokeback to win, it's comforting to know that it's on the list of "losers" that includes Pulp Fiction, To Kill A Mockingbird and Citizen Kane, among others.
Cause we all know that Brokeback is a modern Citizen Kane...
Old 03-16-06 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by conscience
With silly, immature comments like 'Buttcrack Mountain', no wonder supporters are whining.
Agreed.

Originally Posted by grunter
Actually I'll be the one to call "bullshit" on Roeper's short-sighted statement.

2006's Oscar controversy pales in comparison to 1998's. We STILL - to this day - hear online fanboy bitching about "Shakespeare in Love's" win. That "beef" far outstrips the so-called whining about "Crash's" upset. Roeper, as usual, speaks in hyperbole. But then, he's a "pop" film critic and they tend to speak in blipverts.

And for my tastes, I can't let go the travesty that was 1994 - with "Forrest Gump" stealing the statute from "Pulp Fiction." Or really, the slap-in-the-face of 2001 that honored the instantly forgettable "A Beautiful Mind" over the bang-on perfect, lovingly rendered first chapter of "The Lord of the Rings." The landslide victory of the third film of the trilogy was too little, too late.
You forgot Rocky winning over Taxi Driver and Ordinary People winning over Raging Bull.

Originally Posted by Kerborus
Cause we all know that Brokeback is a modern Citizen Kane...
I don't think that's what Marty was saying.

In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
Old 03-17-06 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by conscience
With silly, immature comments like 'Buttcrack Mountain', no wonder supporters are whining.
But I guess silly, immature comments are okay if you are the whinning supporter...

Originally Posted by Annie Proulx
Rumour has it that Lionsgate inundated the academy voters with DVD copies of Trash - excuse me - Crash a few weeks before the ballot deadline.
Old 03-17-06 | 09:57 AM
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But I guess silly, immature comments are okay if you are the whinning supporter...
C'mon - we all know why he called the film 'Buttcrack' Mountain...Of course, he'll come back and say he didn't have that intention.

That was where I was going with my comment.

And that is why the majority of people that like the film (BBM) are in a tizzy.
Old 03-17-06 | 10:16 AM
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Agreed.


You forgot Rocky winning over Taxi Driver and Ordinary People winning over Raging Bull.


I don't think that's what Marty was saying.

In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
I for one, thought Crash was well deserving. It's always been my opinion that if you are even nominated for Best Picture, than in effect you were one of the best pictures of the year, win or lose. Since movies are subjective, all 5 movies really win. The big winner, per se, is just icing on the cake.

It's sad to think that people need validation by a body that is biased in order to enjoy or think the movie they like is good. I'm guilty of that as well, btw, but a couple of years down the road, who cares?

Now if you needed that win as a needs to further your social progressive ideas than I don't know what to tell you...
Old 03-17-06 | 10:35 AM
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In my opinion the whining is justified...because after all Crash was the "best picture of the year." I no longer have faith in the Academy, although they did give Hoffman the well deserved Oscar.
Whining is never justified . . . even if you're a 3-year-old. At least then it's permissable, but it's still not justified.
Old 03-17-06 | 10:53 AM
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This thread is outrageous and insulting. Brokeback Mountain is a story about tragedy in the lives of four people. You people, who didn't enjoy the film, started months ago with jokes and comments that, if they were racial, would not have been tolerated anywhere. Furthermore, most people who love the movie aren't posting in these "crap" threads. Personally, I will only let so much idiocy fly before I say, "enough!" If you love the movie that was given the BP award on March 5th, good for you. Honestly, that winning isn't enough for you people says far more with regard to "character" than the displeasure some Brokeback fans, including Annie, are expressing about losing.

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