Joss Whedon's Serenity (new thread)
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Just saw it today with my roomate. We both hated it. I honestly don't see whats so appealing about it. It was confusing, stupid and incredibly cliche. I will never understand what anyone sees in Joss Whedon material
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I have never seen Buffy, Angel, Firefly, or any other Whedon stuff, I have always perceived his stuff to be like star trek (in other words highly appealing to a small niche). But I thought this movie was pretty sweet, and look forward to more. I plan to tivo some firefly, and maybe watch Buffy at some point.
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Originally Posted by whynotsmile
Just saw it today with my roomate. We both hated it. I honestly don't see whats so appealing about it. It was confusing, stupid and incredibly cliche. I will never understand what anyone sees in Joss Whedon material
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Originally Posted by ArchibaldTuttle
I have never seen Buffy, Angel, Firefly, or any other Whedon stuff, I have always perceived his stuff to be like star trek (in other words highly appealing to a small niche). But I thought this movie was pretty sweet, and look forward to more. I plan to tivo some firefly, and maybe watch Buffy at some point.
My 2¢.
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Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
That's what I was thinking. Maybe it was just too smart for him, or he was too simple for it.
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Saw it last night and hugely enjoyed it. My friend not so much, she thought it wasn't well acted and made some other points about the film I cannot be bothered to talk about. I have never seen the firefly series and was watching it based on the overly positive reviews in the UK film magazines how loved it. Found it abit slow in the middle ( a thing I find in most star wars films as well). But I felt Joss, on his debut, directed very well with some quite good fight and CG scenes. I thought the end battle was better then the opening battle on ROTS. I also loved the "I read a poem once, don't faint" line.
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Saw it last night. best friend loved it (she loves angel and buffy). I, on the other hand, fell asleep in the middle of it.
Just don't see the appeal at all.
Oh, and the theater was practically empty.
Just don't see the appeal at all.
Oh, and the theater was practically empty.
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Originally Posted by whynotsmile
oh bullshit. LIke I said, I haven't seen any of the episodes. They did a very poor job of bringing people who had not seen Firefly before into the story. But whatever. Being confusing to non fans is way down on the list of things wrong with this chud.
And since you choose to criticize this movie through entirely baseless emotional blather, without any real basis of discussion, you're going to irritate the many Firefly/Serenity fans in this thread who are in turn going to attack you personally. It is the cycle of life. And in a thread ABOUT what you attack, you're going to be outnumbered. And you're probably going to just storm off in a huff and wonder why we're all such assholes.
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Originally Posted by animalmystic
Got a quick question about a part in Serenity. What is on the screen when River looks at the TV? Is it a commercial? Cartoon? TV show? Wash makes reference to it, something like the Fruity Odie Bar?? I did a Google search and didn't find shit. can somebody explain what this is? Also was this ever mentioned/featured in the Firefly TV show at all? Thanks
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Hell, I thought more got explained in those first five minutes than the entire TV show. I thought the backstory was creatively (and thoroughly) retold and I really don't understand where else they could have brought people into the story without slowing the pace down to an absolute crawl. All the relationships are set up, the ones that aren't explicitly demonstrated are given raging undercurrents and even so, none of these particularly impacted the plot of Serenity -- which stood completely on its own.
Hell, I thought more got explained in those first five minutes than the entire TV show. I thought the backstory was creatively (and thoroughly) retold and I really don't understand where else they could have brought people into the story without slowing the pace down to an absolute crawl. All the relationships are set up, the ones that aren't explicitly demonstrated are given raging undercurrents and even so, none of these particularly impacted the plot of Serenity -- which stood completely on its own.

Btw, shameless request for people to vote for Firefly here.

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Originally Posted by travlr
It was a commercial for Fruity Oaty Bars it was just one of many random ads that had the trigger to set River off encoded into it.
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Originally Posted by whynotsmile
Just saw it today with my roomate. We both hated it. I honestly don't see whats so appealing about it. It was confusing, stupid and incredibly cliche. I will never understand what anyone sees in Joss Whedon material
Though Serenity wasnt the best Sci Fi movie it certainly was better than a ton of movies released this year. Stupid? Confusing? Puhleeze.
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Originally Posted by whynotsmile
oh bullshit. LIke I said, I haven't seen any of the episodes. They did a very poor job of bringing people who had not seen Firefly before into the story. But whatever. Being confusing to non fans is way down on the list of things wrong with this chud.
Originally Posted by Toben
Haven't seen the film yet, but I think that statement might have qualified for spoiler tags.
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Originally Posted by RogueScribner
The film has been out for nearly 3 weeks and it's quickly dropping. Anyone who wanted to see this has. And as far as spoilers go, you can tell from the trailers and commercials that River is triggered. Naming the commercial that does it has ZERO impact on the movie. It's barely a plot point.
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Overrated.
It has an imaginative spark, bounces with fun and is engaging enough not to make me feel like I've wasted my time, but overrated none the less. I liked some of the characters, but some just grated badly and acting was average overall, even though it was boosted by Joss Whedon's snappy dialogue. I rather liked Serenity's production values and art direction, plus I liked the cartoonish ship designs.
I thought the Reavers were a little blah; they just seemed to be a cross between the Kazons from Voyager and Orcs from LOTR. The fights are very reminiscant of the fights featured in Buffy and Angel, other Joss Whedon endevours.
I liked the Alliance and it was maddening that we only catch a relatively brief glimpse of their pristine fleet and gleaming military forces, in fact we didn't get enough indepth info about other aspects of Fire Fly's seemingly complex universe with it's space ports, eccentric settlements on barren worlds, anarchic trader planets and the highly ordered major worlds of the Alliance.
I was entertained by Serenity, but not massively impressed. I walked out of the cinema and felt liked I've only watched an average, competent action adventure film, and it certainly didn't change my life. Of course I wouldn't be mean and write off Serenity as overhyped trash, it was still a very entertaining and fun sci-fi film, but it's certainly not the second coming of Christ like some critics or sci-fi fans would say.
I wouldn't mind getting Serenity on DVD and wouldn't mind a second installment. But strike me dead, I actually preferred The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy more than Serenity, but that's just me.
It has an imaginative spark, bounces with fun and is engaging enough not to make me feel like I've wasted my time, but overrated none the less. I liked some of the characters, but some just grated badly and acting was average overall, even though it was boosted by Joss Whedon's snappy dialogue. I rather liked Serenity's production values and art direction, plus I liked the cartoonish ship designs.
I thought the Reavers were a little blah; they just seemed to be a cross between the Kazons from Voyager and Orcs from LOTR. The fights are very reminiscant of the fights featured in Buffy and Angel, other Joss Whedon endevours.
I liked the Alliance and it was maddening that we only catch a relatively brief glimpse of their pristine fleet and gleaming military forces, in fact we didn't get enough indepth info about other aspects of Fire Fly's seemingly complex universe with it's space ports, eccentric settlements on barren worlds, anarchic trader planets and the highly ordered major worlds of the Alliance.
I was entertained by Serenity, but not massively impressed. I walked out of the cinema and felt liked I've only watched an average, competent action adventure film, and it certainly didn't change my life. Of course I wouldn't be mean and write off Serenity as overhyped trash, it was still a very entertaining and fun sci-fi film, but it's certainly not the second coming of Christ like some critics or sci-fi fans would say.
I wouldn't mind getting Serenity on DVD and wouldn't mind a second installment. But strike me dead, I actually preferred The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy more than Serenity, but that's just me.
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It was a commercial for Fruity Oaty Bars it was just one of many random ads that had the trigger to set River off encoded into it.
Thanks travlr!

Didn't find much via Google....except parts of the lyrics...
"Fruity Oaty bars
makes a man out of a mouse.
Fruity Oaty bars
makes you bust out of your blouse."
Word
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I finally saw it today and I liked it a lot and will by the DVD.
FWIW: I've seen every aired episode of Firefly and have never seen Angel or Buffy.
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FWIW: I've seen every aired episode of Firefly and have never seen Angel or Buffy.
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Sorry if anyone thought that was a spoiler but I thought it was obvious from the trailer and the question I was answering. I though the Reavers look could have been better but I thought their origin story was great.
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
In Serenity it's on the
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