that looked pretty good.

Saw the trailer this afternoon with Jarhead and the movie looks pretty intense. It looks like the film will be pretty dark (for Spielberg of late anyhow) and is definitely near the top of my list.

MATT

yah...but i heard that at the end of the movie all the Israeli soldiers turn out to be alive and Tom Cruise hugs them, and they go play catch.

Wow. Great Trailer.

Looks pretty damn good. Unfortunately seeing Bana always pulls me out the movie since he was a pretty high-profile comedian here.

This doesn't look like my type of film at all, but frankly, I wasn't thrilled by the idea of EMPIRE OF THE SUN, AMISTAD, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, or THE TERMINAL, either, when they were first coming out, and they all turned out to be exceptional (well, TERMINAL was so-so), so I've finally learned never to dismiss a Spielberg film just because it involves about a subject matter I don't normally care/know anything/think much about instead of aliens, dinosaurs, sharks, runaway trucks, superhero archaeologists, et al. I'll be there upon its release, but I may have a harder time talking the wife into attending with me.

I don't believe Spielberg is going to come down on the side of the terrorists. The international response to Munich demanded that Israel take the action that it took. Kushner seems like the sort of guy who would vacillate and use relative arguments to try to justify the terrorist position. However, Spielberg never struck me as the sort who would follow that line of reasoning.

I saw the trailer with Jarhead and now I cant wait to see this movie.

We got the posters in at work; unlike the one posted, it has a block of text on the poster describing what happened in a sentence and saying "this is what happened after..."

I look forward to it.

Anyone else reminded of The Onion's assertion, "Spielberg tells secrets to his success: Monsters, Jews"

I've been waiting for this one for quite some time - only a few more weeks. Thanks for the link to the trailer.

Nice.

Wish I would have seen the trailer on the big screen with Jarhead, though (like some of you did). But I did get to see the trailers for The Break-Up and Annapolis which are sure to be huge!

Wow... I can't WAIT for this film now. Wonder if Apple will release this in QT HD.

I think Spielberg picking Kushner was pretty smart, so that this film will seem balanced in some ways, in light of all the Muslim hating / Israeli supporting controversy going on in the world and i n Hollywood. POTC being an exception.

The trailer looks like it takes no side and actually could be an interesting exploration of how useless and senseless nationalism, and vengeance is. Terrorism fighting terroism. I have never been looking forward to seeing a Spielberg film before - but now I'm intrigued.

I don't think Kushner is a Staliist - I'm a Jew who agrees with a lot of his arguments.

I agree with Bobby Shalom. Pirates of the Carribean had very little Muslim hating or Israeli supporting.

Oh that groucho!!!!

I don't know what Muslim hating/ Israeli supporting controversy you're talking about, but Israel only has strong support from the United States. Europe has a long history of anti-Jewish sentiment, and now has a large Muslim populace. The political climate there has been extremely cold to Israel for as long as Israel has been around.

The Muslim world also has a lot more votes than Israel in places like the UN General Assembly, which is why there have been so many GA resolutions critical of Israel.

Israel also had no support from Israel during the beginnings of violent Palestinian nationalism in the early 70s. The United States and Israel are the only Western states that maintain policies against negotiating with terrorists. During the 70s, terror groups like Black September operated with a free hand in Europe, because if Europeans captured the members of a terror cell, the terror group would simply hijack a European airliner and trade the hostages for their members.

The perpetrators of Munich were released by the German authorities in such an exchange. Israel made the decision to send the Mossad after Black September in the wake of a refusal of foreign law enforcement to respond to the murder of Jews.

It has nothing to do with nationalism, and everything to do with refusing to permit oneself to be victimized. The decisive measures taken by the Israeli government in response to Munich was necessary to make a statement to the terrorists that the fact that European governments allowed them to get away with murder did not mean that they had a free hand, and it was necessary as a diplomatic statement to the international community that their refusal to respond to these killings would not be the last word on the matter.

Chasing down Black September was as justifiable and right as chasing down Al Quaeda.

Looks good. However, this doesn't seem like the kind of family friendly fare people look for during the Holiday season. My guess is that they will release this limited in December and then expand come January.

But the UN is about as useful as a turd in a punch bowl.

The film itself looks very good.

They have the HD trailers up now.Looks like it should be good.

I believe i read on IMDB that this movie is in a serious time crunch and that not a single note has been recorded by John Williams. Hopefully they can put the pieces together in time.

High def versions are up at Apple's site.

more directly: http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/munich/

Looks great imho.

I thought this thread was called 'Steven Speilberg's "Munch" - which I figured to be about the life and times of Beavis & Butt-head.

My bad.

Well, yes myabe I shouldn't have added "The Word," I was specifically speaking about the Muslim hating / Israeli supporting theme in most Hollywood films. How many times have Israeli nationals been the bad guy in a Die Hard type film?

Let's go back in history as to why Israel had to deal with terrorists. Why is Israel not allowing themselves to be pushed around, when they do that to others? This is a pretty big conversation.

And, if you don't think this is about Nationalism - we're going to never agree.

Are you arguing that Israel has no business existing? If that's the case, you're right, we're never going to agree.

If you believe in the right of a state to exist, you believe in its right to take reasonable steps to guarantee its security, and you give it reasonable latitude to pursue its diplomacy in a manner that is appropriate.

In light of international refusal to assist Israel in bringing these terrorists to a forum where they could be properly tried and punished, Israel did what it had to do, both to send a statement to its enemies that the killing of its citizens would not be tolerated, and to the global community that their tolerance of the killing of its citizens would not be dispositive of any international incident.

To have the perpetrators of Munich liberated by German authorities less than 30 years after Dachau was obviously very emotionally upsetting to many Israelis, and that in part determined the nature of the response.