Hustle & Flow
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Still think I'll pass. I don't care much for the main actor and the commercials keep polluting my Real World time. 

Although I can't stand Rap/HipHop, I'm a little intrigued about this film.
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
It's been a while that an urban movie has been a hit, like BE COOL bombed.
Maybe the general public don't wanna see these kinds of movies.
Maybe the general public don't wanna see these kinds of movies.
You know what? Why do people not want to see urban movies when films like...
> Coach Carter grossed $70 million on a $30 million budget.
> Be Cool grossed $60 million on a $50 million budget.
> Diary of a Mad Black Woman grossed $50 million on a $5 million budget.
> Beauty Shop grossed $40 million on a $30 million budget.
I rest my case.
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This review, in addition to the MTV/8 Mile-centric trailers, are keeping me away from this flick:
RAPPIN' PIMP WITH A HEART OF GOLD
By KYLE SMITH
'HUSTLE & Flow" promises gritty street drama but delivers "Pretty Woman" with crunk instead of Roxette.
DJay (Terrence Howard) is a prince of a pimp who yearns for a career in crunk (Southern rap), and from that point there is no doubt about where the film is heading.
Howard was better in "Crash," but "Hustle" is strenuously engineered to get him an Oscar nomination. Every few scenes, the (predictable) action stops and the camera pulls into a dreamy closeup for a Moment that might as well have dotted lines around it with the instruction, "clip here." Many of these speeches, if cleaned up and corrected for grammar, would not be out of place on an episode of "Family Ties."
"We got our hands on the wheel, we in charge," he tells his blond ho Nola (Taryn Manning), demonstrating by placing her hands tenderly on the steering wheel. Still, Howard has the goods to be a star.
Other dialogue devised by writer-director Craig Brewer, a white man from Virginia, sounds as if it came from an outsider with his ear pressed to the wall: "Just because you got the bacon, the lettuce and the tomato, that doesn't mean I'm gonna give you my toast." I doubt that one's gonna catch on, Craig.
DJay lives with three of his hos in a ramshackle Memphis house he presides over like a ghetto Ward Cleaver. The film has boxed itself into a corner with DJay: If it showed him doing what pimps actually do (beating up hookers and keeping their earnings), we would never forgive him, no matter how plucky his rise.
But the only tough thing about him, really, is his potty mouth — the whole movie blushes with modesty, as in the strip club where the girls wear tops and bottoms — so his transformation isn't much of one.
Real pimps (see the documentary "American Pimp") don't hug and don't cry, as DJay does twice. They don't give lovey-dovey philosophical speeches, don't stop to give their girlfriends mad impetuous romantic kisses as they're leaving the house.
Instantly, DJay finds a genius producer and genius musician, and one of his hos turns out to be able to sing like Aretha. The team lays down a pair of sizzling tracks, but DJay's contribution is the least important element. He could rap the classified ads and it would still sound great. It's as if Rocky spent the big fight handling the spit bucket while Adrian and Mickey took turns in the ring.
The movie's moral? "You know what they say," says DJay, "everybody got to have a dream." Yes, they do say that, frequently, which is how it became a cliché.
By KYLE SMITH
'HUSTLE & Flow" promises gritty street drama but delivers "Pretty Woman" with crunk instead of Roxette.
DJay (Terrence Howard) is a prince of a pimp who yearns for a career in crunk (Southern rap), and from that point there is no doubt about where the film is heading.
Howard was better in "Crash," but "Hustle" is strenuously engineered to get him an Oscar nomination. Every few scenes, the (predictable) action stops and the camera pulls into a dreamy closeup for a Moment that might as well have dotted lines around it with the instruction, "clip here." Many of these speeches, if cleaned up and corrected for grammar, would not be out of place on an episode of "Family Ties."
"We got our hands on the wheel, we in charge," he tells his blond ho Nola (Taryn Manning), demonstrating by placing her hands tenderly on the steering wheel. Still, Howard has the goods to be a star.
Other dialogue devised by writer-director Craig Brewer, a white man from Virginia, sounds as if it came from an outsider with his ear pressed to the wall: "Just because you got the bacon, the lettuce and the tomato, that doesn't mean I'm gonna give you my toast." I doubt that one's gonna catch on, Craig.
DJay lives with three of his hos in a ramshackle Memphis house he presides over like a ghetto Ward Cleaver. The film has boxed itself into a corner with DJay: If it showed him doing what pimps actually do (beating up hookers and keeping their earnings), we would never forgive him, no matter how plucky his rise.
But the only tough thing about him, really, is his potty mouth — the whole movie blushes with modesty, as in the strip club where the girls wear tops and bottoms — so his transformation isn't much of one.
Real pimps (see the documentary "American Pimp") don't hug and don't cry, as DJay does twice. They don't give lovey-dovey philosophical speeches, don't stop to give their girlfriends mad impetuous romantic kisses as they're leaving the house.
Instantly, DJay finds a genius producer and genius musician, and one of his hos turns out to be able to sing like Aretha. The team lays down a pair of sizzling tracks, but DJay's contribution is the least important element. He could rap the classified ads and it would still sound great. It's as if Rocky spent the big fight handling the spit bucket while Adrian and Mickey took turns in the ring.
The movie's moral? "You know what they say," says DJay, "everybody got to have a dream." Yes, they do say that, frequently, which is how it became a cliché.
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From: WAS looking for My Own Private Stuckeyville, but stuck in Liberty City (while missing Vice City)
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
> Coach Carter grossed $70 million on a $30 million budget.
> Be Cool grossed $60 million on a $50 million budget.
> Diary of a Mad Black Woman grossed $50 million on a $5 million budget.
> Beauty Shop grossed $40 million on a $30 million budget.
I rest my case.
> Be Cool grossed $60 million on a $50 million budget.
> Diary of a Mad Black Woman grossed $50 million on a $5 million budget.
> Beauty Shop grossed $40 million on a $30 million budget.
I rest my case.
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From: WAS looking for My Own Private Stuckeyville, but stuck in Liberty City (while missing Vice City)
Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
For the love of God don't like the trailers, and especially that review, stop you from seeing this one.
* [Oh wait, they already did....Jersey Girl
]
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Indeed, that review was pretty atrocious. Anybody who lets a poorly written review, preconcieved notions, and a shaky trailer outweigh solid word of mouth and critical acclaim...well, they're going to miss out on many great movies (this one included).
Also, let me reiterate something that I said in my initial post: this is one of those movies that should definitely be seen in a theater (the film's soundtrack alone warrants a theatrical screening, but the entire feel of the film is magnified when shared with a room full of people).
-JP
Also, let me reiterate something that I said in my initial post: this is one of those movies that should definitely be seen in a theater (the film's soundtrack alone warrants a theatrical screening, but the entire feel of the film is magnified when shared with a room full of people).
-JP
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Rogue588, trust me on this one. After reading it again, that review is pretty much the worse one I've ever seen, especially one from a major source like that. It's like whoever wrote that pile of crap didn't even watch the movie.
Trust me, and everyone else, that you should check this one out. This is not just another film like 8 Mile (I did like that one a little bit though), it's way more than anything like that. This is a film where, as stated above me, you should also watch it with a theater full of other people.
This film also made me appreciate that genre of music more than ever as an art form. I've never totally been against it, but this film did help open my eyes quite a bit. I will not be so quick to simply dismiss this type of music anymore.
Back to the film for a second:
The performances in this one were great, top to bottom. After seeing the fantastic performance of Anthony Anderson on The Shield, I specifically had my eye on him throughout this film, and once again he impressed me. If that guy can get hold of some more roles that really push him as an actor, I see him having a very bright future.
Trust me, and everyone else, that you should check this one out. This is not just another film like 8 Mile (I did like that one a little bit though), it's way more than anything like that. This is a film where, as stated above me, you should also watch it with a theater full of other people.
This film also made me appreciate that genre of music more than ever as an art form. I've never totally been against it, but this film did help open my eyes quite a bit. I will not be so quick to simply dismiss this type of music anymore.
Back to the film for a second:
The performances in this one were great, top to bottom. After seeing the fantastic performance of Anthony Anderson on The Shield, I specifically had my eye on him throughout this film, and once again he impressed me. If that guy can get hold of some more roles that really push him as an actor, I see him having a very bright future.
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
Rogue588, trust me on this one. After reading it again, that review is pretty much the worse one I've ever seen, especially one from a major source like that. It's like whoever wrote that pile of crap didn't even watch the movie.
Trust me, and everyone else, that you should check this one out. This is not just another film like 8 Mile (I did like that one a little bit though), it's way more than anything like that. This is a film where, as stated above me, you should also watch it with a theater full of other people.
This film also made me appreciate that genre of music more than ever as an art form. I've never totally been against it, but this film did help open my eyes quite a bit. I will not be so quick to simply dismiss this type of music anymore.
Back to the film for a second:
The performances in this one were great, top to bottom. After seeing the fantastic performance of Anthony Anderson on The Shield, I specifically had my eye on him throughout this film, and once again he impressed me. If that guy can get hold of some more roles that really push him as an actor, I see him having a very bright future.
Trust me, and everyone else, that you should check this one out. This is not just another film like 8 Mile (I did like that one a little bit though), it's way more than anything like that. This is a film where, as stated above me, you should also watch it with a theater full of other people.
This film also made me appreciate that genre of music more than ever as an art form. I've never totally been against it, but this film did help open my eyes quite a bit. I will not be so quick to simply dismiss this type of music anymore.
Back to the film for a second:
The performances in this one were great, top to bottom. After seeing the fantastic performance of Anthony Anderson on The Shield, I specifically had my eye on him throughout this film, and once again he impressed me. If that guy can get hold of some more roles that really push him as an actor, I see him having a very bright future.
It's truly that good.
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Originally Posted by Mowork
It would be a real shame for people to dismiss this film simply based on a review, its trailer, the music, the fact that it's considered an "urban film" or whatever....
It's truly that good.
It's truly that good.
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Saw this last night, my favorite movie since Eternal Sunshine (I've seen everything acclaimed except Crash in that span). Every other word out of my mouth in the last 12 hours have been either whoop, that, or trick. It's the kind of movie
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I saw it twice yesterday....and so did my 50 something mom. This is not some hip hop movie that will only appeal to an urban audience. This is a brilliant film, with knockout performances, excellent direction and a soundtrack that makes you want to jump out of your seat and start dancing.
Probably one of the best movies I've seen in a long time and Terrance Howard really gives a star making performance...but the supporting cast shines just as much. The girls are fantastic, Anthony Anderson redeems himself for movies like Scary Movie 3 and King's Ransom and even DJ Qualls makes the most of his smaller role. If anyone has doubts about seeing this movie based on that review in this thread, or a trailer you've seen, please, shelve those reservations and go see this movie now.
I know in my area it's already on it's way out, and yesterday, there was only about 10 people in the theatre, but this is a must see movie and I think come oscar time, you'll hear a bit more about it (especially for Howard). I can not wait for the DVD to come out...hopefully it'll be loaded.
MATT
Probably one of the best movies I've seen in a long time and Terrance Howard really gives a star making performance...but the supporting cast shines just as much. The girls are fantastic, Anthony Anderson redeems himself for movies like Scary Movie 3 and King's Ransom and even DJ Qualls makes the most of his smaller role. If anyone has doubts about seeing this movie based on that review in this thread, or a trailer you've seen, please, shelve those reservations and go see this movie now.
I know in my area it's already on it's way out, and yesterday, there was only about 10 people in the theatre, but this is a must see movie and I think come oscar time, you'll hear a bit more about it (especially for Howard). I can not wait for the DVD to come out...hopefully it'll be loaded.
MATT
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I really enjoyed this movie, but I wouldn't think that it would be in my top ten for the year. It was entertaining and had some good music, but the ending is a bit too cliche for my liking. Just my opinion.
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Terrence Howard is worth the price of admission. At least we got CRASH and this film out of him before he has to turn to the darkside of Hollywood big, stupid action movies.
It's a good little movie. Although, for the white folks, if you really hate rap music, then stay away, because a lot of this takes place when they're recording a song.
I'll buy this puppy on DVD for sure.
It's a good little movie. Although, for the white folks, if you really hate rap music, then stay away, because a lot of this takes place when they're recording a song.
I'll buy this puppy on DVD for sure.
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Originally Posted by maxinquaye
the ending isn't just contrived, it's offensive. think about what this film is ultimately trying to say. is it really about redemption? reaching for your dreams? or is it about cultivating a mythos through caricature, selling yourself out to stereotype? djay ultimately mirrored this actual film perfectly; give the audience (and the suits) what they want (and expect), and good things will come unto thee. djay was a better man as a pimp; at least he wasn't whoring himself out.
hype is called hype for a reason.
hype is called hype for a reason.
I don't see how the ending's offensive either. What did you want to see? DJay's demo being the first in a string of events that ended with him becoming a rap star would've seemed more contrived. What we had here was a guy with some dreams of turning his life around before it was too late, only to have the harsh realities of the business slap him in the face. Getting his single on the radio wasn't all that far-fetched, since some stations do play the occasional demo.
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Originally Posted by Al Padrino
I'm bumping this because of the DVD release and having just seen it for the first time last night, I've got a problem with this. I don't see how DJay whored himself out or made altered his music for the suits. The tracks he laid down still featured his lyrics that came from his heart.
I don't see how the ending's offensive either. What did you want to see? DJay's demo being the first in a string of events that ended with him becoming a rap star would've seemed more contrived. What we had here was a guy with some dreams of turning his life around before it was too late, only to have the harsh realities of the business slap him in the face. Getting his single on the radio wasn't all that far-fetched, since some stations do play the occasional demo.
I don't see how the ending's offensive either. What did you want to see? DJay's demo being the first in a string of events that ended with him becoming a rap star would've seemed more contrived. What we had here was a guy with some dreams of turning his life around before it was too late, only to have the harsh realities of the business slap him in the face. Getting his single on the radio wasn't all that far-fetched, since some stations do play the occasional demo.
-JP
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Watched this the first time last and liked it. After seeing Crash and now this, Terrence Howard is ready to become a superstar. He kinda reminds me a bit of Morgan Freeman. Very cool and calm on screen and knows how to deliver a line. The movie was better than I thought and I didn't think the ending was cliched at all. Now, had they shown a flashy music video with DJay in it...that would've been cliched. This is also a great dvd show to show off your surround setup. *Whoop that trick (get 'em)*
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Still one of my favourite movies and like I said back in august, it ended up being one of my top 3 movies of 2005. The DVD is pretty excellent with a really great transfer and the soundtrack is great...I've probably blared the "Whoop that Trick" and "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp" scenes about 10 times each... awesome. Anyone who hasn't seen this, really needs to give it a chance (BLIND BUY!!!!).
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It's too bad that so many people are still letting the basic synopsis keep them away from this one. I will say that it's not a film every audience can enjoy. My mom's a big fan of film, but I can't envision her really digging this one and I'd imagine people like her would be the same way.
That said, the notion that this is just another throw together, rags-to-riches hip-hop film need to wise up and just see it. Being a lover of films with strong, deep characters, this was right up my alley. Character depth is a trait that can make a good movie great and a great movie a classic.
I could relate in a way to some of the obstacles these characters faced. We've all got dreams and while some may ultimately realize theirs, it's not common. So while I've never had the exact problems any of the characters here faced, their struggles were still easy to relate to. One of the few movies I've seen in recent years where I wanted to watch it again right after seeing it for the first time.
That said, the notion that this is just another throw together, rags-to-riches hip-hop film need to wise up and just see it. Being a lover of films with strong, deep characters, this was right up my alley. Character depth is a trait that can make a good movie great and a great movie a classic.
I could relate in a way to some of the obstacles these characters faced. We've all got dreams and while some may ultimately realize theirs, it's not common. So while I've never had the exact problems any of the characters here faced, their struggles were still easy to relate to. One of the few movies I've seen in recent years where I wanted to watch it again right after seeing it for the first time.
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I thought it was well done and the acting was top-notch, but in the end I just didn't enjony this movie. I actually went into it knowing nothing except critics liked it. I don't know if it was the subject matter or what but this film didn't do anything for me.
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Phenomenal movie. Terrence Howard should definitely be on the shortlist for a Best Actor nod, if the Academy deigns to notice his performance. Especially amazing when compared with his utterly different turn in "Crash."
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I plan on getting the DVD solely based on Terrence Howard's performance. I saw this guy 6 or 7 years back doing small parts on tv and movies and told my wife he would someday be a "star". I'm not sure why but I picked him out of the crowd but his perfomances always stuck in my mind as good solid acting.



