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Old 11-07-04 | 08:19 PM
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Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

I just got through watching Red Dawn on tv and I have to say this was the worst movie. Here's why:

1. Our Military would not leave a bunch of High school kids to fight a war for us.
2. These kids had No Training at all so how could they be that good.
3. No part of this movie is even believable.
4. why didn't they just hide in the woods?
Old 11-07-04 | 08:26 PM
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Re: Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

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I just got through watching Red Dawn on tv and I have to say this was the worst movie. Here's why:

1. Our Military would not leave a bunch of High school kids to fight a war for us.
2. These kids had No Training at all so how could they be that good.
3. No part of this movie is even believable.
4. why didn't they just hide in the woods?
The answer to all: it was made in the 80's and it stars Patrick Swayze
Old 11-07-04 | 08:42 PM
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I still think this movie rules! Wolveriiiiiiiiines !!!
Old 11-07-04 | 08:52 PM
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Old 11-07-04 | 08:55 PM
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Re: Re: Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

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The answer to all: it was made in the 80's and it stars Patrick Swayze
Three words: Next of Kin.
Old 11-07-04 | 09:00 PM
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C'mon, this movie rules. Proof:

-C. Thomas Howell wears a "Star Wars" cap and becomes a (literally) cold-blooded killer
- Ron (Superfly) O'Neal is a convincing Russian/Cuban
-One of the Wolverines goes by the name of "Aardvark"
-Lea Thompson fires a mean machine-gun
-Harry Dean Stanton freaks me out ("AVENNNNNGE MEEE!")
Old 11-07-04 | 09:04 PM
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This is one of those films you have to watch without much logic.
Old 11-07-04 | 09:11 PM
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I remember when this first came out, spokesman for the USSR told the press that this movie didn't help tensions between the US and the Soviet Union.
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Wow... it's 1984 all over again!
Old 11-07-04 | 09:15 PM
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Wasn't this the first movie to get a PG-13 rating? I remember back then PG-13 really pushed the limit in terms of violence and PG films still had an edge to them.

In terms of the movie itself, it's a guilty pleasure. Plus, it was directed by John Milius, an admitted far right conservative to the best of my knowledge, and the same guy who made Conan the Barbarian.
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I might be mistaken, but I think Dreamscape was the first pg-13 movie, followed by Red Dawn.
Old 11-07-04 | 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Hulkabrgr
I might be mistaken, but I think Dreamscape was the first pg-13 movie, followed by Red Dawn.
You are mistaken. From IMDB:

Red Dawn was the first motion picture released with the PG-13 rating, which had been created after difficulty rating some movies in 1984, most notably Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984). (Flamingo Kid, The (1984) was the first film to be *given* a PG-13 rating, but sat on the shelves for five months before being released.)
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Old 11-07-04 | 10:23 PM
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Given the fact that most of the kids had been taught to fire a rifle and hunt as well as knowing and defending their own turf, it's more believable than Ghostbusters.
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Re: Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

Originally posted by orangeguy
I just got through watching Red Dawn on tv and I have to say this was the worst movie. Here's why:

1. Our Military would not leave a bunch of High school kids to fight a war for us.
2. These kids had No Training at all so how could they be that good.
3. No part of this movie is even believable.
4. why didn't they just hide in the woods?
And? I mean true, it's not exactly the most plausible Cold War What-If scenario, but it's a fun, cheesy 80's action movie. There are movies that stretch plausibility far worse that Red Dawn.

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Re: Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

Originally posted by orangeguy
I just got through watching Red Dawn on tv and I have to say this was the worst movie. Here's why:

1. Our Military would not leave a bunch of High school kids to fight a war for us.
Our military did not depend on or know about the Wolverines. Did you not see the territories that were occupied by the Cubans and Russians?

Originally posted by orangeguy
2. These kids had No Training at all so how could they be that good.
These kids had knowledge of their own town and surrounding areas and were adept at hunting. Plus they gained more knowledge about tactics from Powers Boothe.

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3. No part of this movie is even believable.
Neither is any part of your review

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4. why didn't they just hide in the woods?
What part of the movie did you keep flipping the channels? The very first thing they did was hide in the woods. A majority of the movie takes place in the woods.
Old 11-07-04 | 11:08 PM
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Re: Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

Originally posted by orangeguy
I just got through watching Red Dawn on tv and I have to say this was the worst movie. Here's why:

1. Our Military would not leave a bunch of High school kids to fight a war for us.
Our military DOES leave a bunch of high school kids to fight a war for us. In fact, they prefer em young.
Originally posted by orangeguy
2. These kids had No Training at all so how could they be that good.
Video games?
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3. No part of this movie is even believable.
That's why it's a MOVIE and not the NEWS.
Originally posted by orangeguy
4. why didn't they just hide in the woods?
They had a better chance against the russians than they did on their own in the woods... didn't you see blair witch project?
Old 11-07-04 | 11:12 PM
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Re: Reasons why Red Dawn did not work

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1. Our Military would not leave a bunch of High school kids to fight a war for us.
Isn't this happening right now in Iraq?
Old 11-07-04 | 11:25 PM
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This movie ruled!
Old 11-07-04 | 11:32 PM
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Ooh, Iraq comparisons! Har-har! Funny 'cause it's true, thanks George, you murderer...

I don't think the film works because the ending just... happens. It's abrupt and doesn't really conclude the story. Also, the idea of an impending Russian invasion isn't such an overhanging threat today, and I think the film depended a bit too much on the detente to create tension.

Also; Patrick Swayze as a high school boy.

In many respects, it does work. I wouldn't be surprised if that's roundabouts the way soviets would have orchestrated an attack on the US.



Note, while checking IMDb, I got this lovely summary from "The Net Warrior"...
A film depicting the invasion of the United States from the north and south by communist forces from Nicaragua and Russia in the beginning of WWIII and the efforts of partisans from a small mid-western town to turn back the invasion. This film is one of the basis of the beliefs of the citizens militias and patriot groups about the possiblity of a U.N. takeover of the U.S. The movie and the theory of the New World Order proposed by the militias are similar, invasion by a foreign force, a big gun grab, arrest of gun owners, military equipment being moved on railroads, enemy helicopters re-education facilities (concentration camps), and a citizen force that strikes back.
Oh, IMDb users, you tickle me!
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Originally posted by Hulkabrgr
I might be mistaken, but I think Dreamscape was the first pg-13 movie, followed by Red Dawn.
Funny enough, as a kid we had to choose between these two movies for Family Movie Night. It ended up spliting our family in two: my brother and my Dad ended up going to see Red Dawn, while my Mom and I went to see Dreamscape. Anyway, ended up seeing Red Dawn a couple of weeks later, it was pretty cool when I saw it then, it's probably crappy if I watch it now. Ah, to be a young and innocent kid again. So jaded and picky now (when it comes to movies)....
Old 11-08-04 | 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by DonnachaOne

Also; Patrick Swayze as a high school boy.
Didn't his character already graduate? I thought he was on his way to his job before all hell broke loose. Oh, and this also was the first movie that introduced me to RPGs (The weapon, not the game) great sound FX on 'em.

Gotta love those little performances by Ben Johnson and Powers Booth too!
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Any hope of a SE DVD with commentary by John Milius and maybe a guest one by George W. Bush!
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Great movie!
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