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Old 04-20-05 | 07:21 AM
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I just read the "Water Under the Bridge" article at the Superman site and wow, fantastic read.

It's really sad about what could have been in Superman II, it could have been so much more and Donner's comments are 100% on the money.

And I was struck by this at the very end of the article:

Before we finish - Donner’s Superman2 footage is out there, in a vault, at Pinewood in England. Please don't let it rot!
Indeed! The footage is there, I sincerely hope WB let's Donner finally have his cut.
Old 04-20-05 | 10:43 AM
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Did anyone else find that site almost impossible to read? Yikes
Old 04-20-05 | 11:07 AM
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Nah. Once you've read AICN, it's like going to "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite"
Old 04-20-05 | 03:48 PM
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http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php
BlueTights.net posted the following report on their website:

Hey guys, a bit of news today on another Super-Alumnist. We're hearing from a source close to the production that Jack Larson will be making a cameo appearance in "Superman Returns" as a bartender. Larson hails back to the "Adventures of Superman" TV series from the fifties, in which he played Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen.

Larson will be back with his fellow "Adventures" co-star Noel Niell, who's already been cast in a cameo role in Superman Returns.
Old 04-20-05 | 05:05 PM
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Cool. Too bad George Reeves is no longer with us. A cameo from him would have been sweet.
Old 04-21-05 | 06:01 AM
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for the cameo.
Old 04-21-05 | 06:22 AM
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New Video Diary up!

www.bluetights.net
Old 04-21-05 | 09:57 AM
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Lame diary, but they can't all be gems.

What was on that woman's cell phone? It looked like an Alex Ross drawing but it was too dark on my screen
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It was an animated gif. of the Alex Ross Superman changing drawing animated so it looks like he rips it open and flies off. I saw it on some message board.

Old 04-21-05 | 10:08 AM
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Here's what the suit will likely look like...

http://www.development-hell.com/news...php?idnews=133
Old 04-21-05 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
It was an animated gif. of the Alex Ross Superman changing drawing animated so it looks like he rips it open and flies off. I saw it on some message board.

That's funny, I have that as the "Charging" picture on my iPod
Old 04-21-05 | 01:04 PM
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Great minds think alike.
Old 04-22-05 | 12:23 AM
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Here is a link to the first official preview pic in USA Today...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/...uper-man_x.htm
Old 04-22-05 | 12:26 AM
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Doesn't look that bad.
Old 04-22-05 | 01:11 AM
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Looks alright. The S looks a bit small there. Not too sure about the additional S on the belt either. No problems with Routh's build though.
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Simply super.
Old 04-22-05 | 01:32 AM
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Hmm, I'm not digging it. So I guess I'll be the first spoil sport. No big deal though. Still don't like Routh as Superman, and the S is too small. I also don't care for the raise emblem.
Old 04-22-05 | 01:35 AM
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Is that Routh? Doesn't look like him. Not too crazy on the shrinking of the shield, but I'll wait for better quality pictures before I make any further judgements. Still looking good overall.
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The S is far to small. one thing that always bugged me is that with batman they make the suit look all muscle bound, but with superman they don't even try to show the muscle mass. He's the one that should be getting that treatment.
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Well, not only is the suit bad, but his face in that picture screams "I'm not Superman."
Old 04-22-05 | 04:16 AM
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Looks fine to me, but I get the feeling it's a prototype suit or something, or it's a fake. Where did that pic come from?
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USAToday... I doubt they would post a fake..

Better image...




Not only is the S waaaaay to fuck'n small, it should be Birthright sized, but the boots make him look stubby. there is way to much dead space in his chest/stomach area where the symbol should be bigger.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
The S is far to small. one thing that always bugged me is that with batman they make the suit look all muscle bound, but with superman they don't even try to show the muscle mass. He's the one that should be getting that treatment.
This suit is nothing like the Batman suits and it shouldn't be. For one thing the Superman suit doesn't look very constricting or bulky at all. Adding all those little muscles and such just looks a bit stupid for me, Superman doesn't need to try and look fit and muscle-bound.

Here's a High-Res pic:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/...upesHi_001.jpg
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USAToday... I doubt they would post a fake..

Better image...




Not only is the S waaaaay to fuck'n small, it should be Birthright sized, but the boots make him look stubby. there is way to much dead space in his chest/stomach area where the symbol should be bigger.
Okay, now we're just getting really anal here Jack.

This is the first pic, you haven't seen it motion, you haven't seen him fly, etc. What makes the suit work is the performance. I mean the guy's wearin blue suit, red underwear, and a cape. The performance brings it to life and makes you believe. I mean look at the screen-test of Reeve, he looked pretty damn goofy, but once he started acting, he sold it, I think Routh can do the same. Plus I just think the suit looks good.
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Motion or not, You can't tell me that if there's nipples on a bat suit, that Motion will make it any better. The S is waaaaaaaaay to small. It's not being anal, it's being observant. There is far to much free space there on the suit where a red symbol should be. The tip of the insigna should be overlapping on about the top area of the six pack area. The S here is stopping short.

This is how big the S should be




want to compare with old school? Fine, lets do so.


Can you honestly tell me that the S is big enough or perfectly the right size? Honestly? Look at the comic book version and look at the old film version. Either way, the new one is far to small and the boots don't help much.

Remember, this character will be moving quickly, flying over in the sky and a small S on his chest wont cut it as being what it should be as an indicator of who he is. Besides, it's Superman's S. that's like shrinking the Bat logo or bringing Shazam's lighting symbol down several sizes.

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