I think putting Hayden in as the Anakin ghost is horrible... thread!
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Originally posted by NaturalMystic79
If the films were the original trilogy, with the same extras, keeping the DD 5.1 EX and anamorphic transfers this would of been the best DVD release ever.
If the films were the original trilogy, with the same extras, keeping the DD 5.1 EX and anamorphic transfers this would of been the best DVD release ever.
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From: Oregon
Originally posted by Terrell
This will be explained in Episode III, and it will make perfect sense.
This will be explained in Episode III, and it will make perfect sense.
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Originally posted by Terrell
This will be explained in Episode III, and it will make perfect sense.
This will be explained in Episode III, and it will make perfect sense.
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Originally posted by tek2k
why do you guys keep crying over this? it WON'T happen. so just stop it already. it's getting really old. just stay quiet.
why do you guys keep crying over this? it WON'T happen. so just stop it already. it's getting really old. just stay quiet.
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When Luke pulls off the Vader mask, he's speaking with his father Anakin, who has at that point returned (see title of the movie) to the Light Side.
When Luke pulls off the Vader mask, he's speaking with his father Anakin, who has at that point returned (see title of the movie) to the Light Side.
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I don't buy Lucas's explanation of Anakin's post-mortem appearance at the end of ROTJ (i.e., he "died" as Anakin at the end of Episode III once the dark side and the Vader persona overtakes him). It sort of contradicts what was established in ROTJ where Luke sensed that Anakin was still somewhere, like a tortured soul, in that dark vestige and that there was still goodness in him. On the other hand, the only theory that I have been using is that since Anakin was kept totally artificially alive at all times (e.g., "more machine than man"), there was evidently nothing organic left in him to even age. His old appearance at the unmasking was showing him at his current age but also due to his (mis)use of the dark side of the Force.
But that's beside the point. Hayden's short performance in spirit form does not match what Sebastian Shaw did. In the original ending, I had the impression that Anakin was now at peace, having been reborn to the Force and was proud to have a son who not only saved him, but would now carry on the Jedi tradition that he once held so proudly himself. Hayden, on the other hand, still appears as a immature punk, still looks full of himself, and gloats as if he did everything himself.
But that's beside the point. Hayden's short performance in spirit form does not match what Sebastian Shaw did. In the original ending, I had the impression that Anakin was now at peace, having been reborn to the Force and was proud to have a son who not only saved him, but would now carry on the Jedi tradition that he once held so proudly himself. Hayden, on the other hand, still appears as a immature punk, still looks full of himself, and gloats as if he did everything himself.
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Originally posted by Duder
Anakin Skywalker redeemed himself at the end of Return of the Jedi, hence the movie's title. When Luke pulls off the Vader mask, he's speaking with his father Anakin, who has at that point returned (see title of the movie) to the Light Side. If Vader had died an evil man, then I would fully agree with the decision to show a young Anakin ghost. But young Anakin is not the last time Anakin was good, now was it?.
Anakin Skywalker redeemed himself at the end of Return of the Jedi, hence the movie's title. When Luke pulls off the Vader mask, he's speaking with his father Anakin, who has at that point returned (see title of the movie) to the Light Side. If Vader had died an evil man, then I would fully agree with the decision to show a young Anakin ghost. But young Anakin is not the last time Anakin was good, now was it?.
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From: Grazing in a field somewhere...
Originally posted by Michael Corvin
One good deed does not redeem oneself from a lifetime of atrocities.
One good deed does not redeem oneself from a lifetime of atrocities.
This ain't present day earth, bubba
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
One good deed does not redeem oneself from a lifetime of atrocities.
One good deed does not redeem oneself from a lifetime of atrocities.
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Originally posted by Duder
You're right--Anakin's one good deed didn't save the future of the Jedi or those involved in the Rebellion. Kind of like how Bilbo's good deed involving Gollum had absolutely nothing to do with the fate of Middle-Earth. :P Anakin's redemption is the single most important moment in his character arc, and arguably the single most important moment in the entire series.
You're right--Anakin's one good deed didn't save the future of the Jedi or those involved in the Rebellion. Kind of like how Bilbo's good deed involving Gollum had absolutely nothing to do with the fate of Middle-Earth. :P Anakin's redemption is the single most important moment in his character arc, and arguably the single most important moment in the entire series.
Last I recall, It was at the hands of Bilbo that an entire order and repulbic was brought to it's knees. To relate the two, Bilbo would have to kill everyone in the shire before going on his little adventure.
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You guys are funny.
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I don't get why everyone is so hung up over this. It's not like Sebastian Shaw made Darth Vader in the OT. It was really James Earl Jones. Now if they decided to dub his voice, then I would be angry.
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Originally posted by Duder
Anakin's redemption is the single most important moment in his character arc, and arguably the single most important moment in the entire series.
Anakin's redemption is the single most important moment in his character arc, and arguably the single most important moment in the entire series.
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Let's think about it:
Obi-Wan told Vader that "if you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine." So, when Vader "kills" him he becomes a spirit and the body vanishes.
When Yoda dies, he disappears.
Perhaps Anakin "dies" in Ep III but his body does NOT disappear. This puts his spirit in some kind of limbo - a purgatory, if you will. And the body gets revived and used for evil. Now, until Vader is redeemed and dies, this spirit can't be "unlocked."
This is just a theory and my speculation.
Obi-Wan told Vader that "if you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine." So, when Vader "kills" him he becomes a spirit and the body vanishes.
When Yoda dies, he disappears.
Perhaps Anakin "dies" in Ep III but his body does NOT disappear. This puts his spirit in some kind of limbo - a purgatory, if you will. And the body gets revived and used for evil. Now, until Vader is redeemed and dies, this spirit can't be "unlocked."
This is just a theory and my speculation.
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From: Oregon
Originally posted by Michael Corvin
Not to get too heavy, but do you think Hitler redeemed himself the day he took his life?
Not to get too heavy, but do you think Hitler redeemed himself the day he took his life?
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Originally posted by jarofclay73
Let's think about it:
Obi-Wan told Vader that "if you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine." So, when Vader "kills" him he becomes a spirit and the body vanishes.
When Yoda dies, he disappears.
Perhaps Anakin "dies" in Ep III but his body does NOT disappear. This puts his spirit in some kind of limbo - a purgatory, if you will. And the body gets revived and used for evil. Now, until Vader is redeemed and dies, this spirit can't be "unlocked."
This is just a theory and my speculation.
Let's think about it:
Obi-Wan told Vader that "if you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can imagine." So, when Vader "kills" him he becomes a spirit and the body vanishes.
When Yoda dies, he disappears.
Perhaps Anakin "dies" in Ep III but his body does NOT disappear. This puts his spirit in some kind of limbo - a purgatory, if you will. And the body gets revived and used for evil. Now, until Vader is redeemed and dies, this spirit can't be "unlocked."
This is just a theory and my speculation.




