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LiquidSky 06-15-04 07:37 AM

Cult films cannot be "overrated" (a term I'm sick of) or "underrated". These are non-mainstream films ("Donnie Darko") or in some cases, mainstream films that went completely wrong perhaps by over-the-top acting, etc. ("Valley of the Dolls", "Mommie Dearest") Others are classic films that were perhaps ahead of their time ("Touch of Evil"), and genre films ("The Evil Dead" films).

Some (not all) of these films have achieved a cult following because they are so bad...but in a very cool/enjoyable way ("Plan 9 From Outer Space").

Personally, I do not believe there are any "overrated"cult films. We all just have different tastes.

Some of my personal favorite "cult" films:

"Freaks"
"Touch of Evil"
"Johnny Guitar"
"Night of the Living Dead" (original)
"Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!"
"King of Hearts"
"Valley of the Dolls"
"Barbarella"
"Flesh"
"Easy Rider"
"Beyond the Valley of the Dolls"
"Private Parts" (1970s Paul Bartel film...not the Howard Stern film)
"Trash"
"The Rocky Horror Picture Show"
"The Man Who Fell to Earth"
"Rock and Roll High School"
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
"Empire of the Ants"
"Death Race 2000"
"Eraserhead"
"Eating Raoul"
"Dawn of the Dead" (original)
"The Evil Dead"
"Liquid Sky" :D
"Videodrome"
All of John Waters films
Some of Kenneth Anger's films
"Heathers"
"Welcome to the Dollhouse"
"The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert"
"Bottle Rocket"
"Fight Club"
"Donnie Darko"
"Ginger Snaps"
"Bubba Ho Tep"

LiquidSky 06-15-04 07:52 AM


Originally posted by Numanoid
This whole discussion is rather silly. Cult Classics, by definition, appeal to only a select group (you know, the "cult" part). Which naturally means that the majority will not be big fans. If you consider one to be "overrated", I guess that means you just don't happen to be in that particular cult.
Agreed :)

LiquidSky 06-15-04 07:57 AM


Originally posted by RyoHazuki
No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
That is uncalled for. It's ridiculous that other people have different tastes than you?

LiquidSky 06-15-04 08:05 AM


Originally posted by The Nature Boy
Rocky Horror = Very Gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if that's not your cup of tea, I don't think Rocky Horror is the great cinematic ambassador to homosexual culture. But I do think that's what owes a lot of it's cult appeal to, it must have been something quite different for the time.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, if you do check it out, see it at one of the famed midnight showing with audience participation. Definately tedious as a rental, but a bit more lively in person.

Rocky Horror definitely has a large gay following but has a large straight following as well. I think it appeals to people who love cheesy/cool 1950s science fiction/horror films, and others who perhaps feel cut off from the "mainstream" (gay and straight).

In high school and college, the midnight shows were a great place for me to meet people. I made some cool friends (gay and straight).

JustInsane 06-15-04 08:16 AM


Originally posted by Rivero
This deserves a special place in the What the F***? Hall of Fame. Congratulations.

.........o...............k....................

I would say the same thing about your post.

Trigger 06-15-04 08:20 AM

1. Titanic
2. Spiderman
3. Passion of the Christ
4. Shrek 1 AND 2
5. Lord of the Rings trilogy
6. Star Wars fiveogy
7. Gone with the Wind

Daytripper 06-15-04 08:22 AM


Originally posted by JustInsane
.........o...............k....................

I would say the same thing about your post.


Sorry, the Hall of Fame is all booked up.

Giles 06-15-04 08:57 AM


Originally posted by SweetP


Now "Troop Beverly Hills"? No further comment on that from moi.
Any flick that featured the debut of Tori Spelling should be rightfully served as death row punishment. Unless it's that TV movie where she's the bitchy cheerleader and Kelly Martin's the nerdy weirdo who stabs her to death, because that was awesome.
But God forbid you get me on a tangent about the elusive sex appeal of Shelly Long in the midst of her desperate decent into motion picture mediocrity. Bless her heart.


well now wait a sec, everyone's entitled to their opinion, and you can loathe "Troop Beverly Hills" but I have to chime in here and state that I also enjoyed this film.

Any "Ladybugs" fans here? :D

chanster 06-15-04 09:01 AM


No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
I agree with this sentiment.

LiquidSky 06-15-04 09:30 AM


Originally posted by chanster
I agree with this sentiment.
To use one of YOUR favorite phrases: "give me a break" :rolleyes:

Michael Corvin 06-15-04 09:43 AM

Wow. 5 pages and no one has jumped on Kevin Smith yet. :up:

Trigger 06-15-04 09:44 AM

Chasing Amy

freudguy 06-15-04 09:47 AM

Threads of this kind always seem to illicit reponses by people that think they have better taste than others and seem to feel a need to tell them about it. You don't like a movie that I like? Fine. However, don't tell me or others that my taste is inferior to yours. When you do, any credibility you may have in the eyes of others is diminished by your own film-snobbery (even if someone agrees with you).

Giles 06-15-04 09:47 AM


Originally posted by Trigger
Chasing Amy
thank you Trigger - :)

Rivero 06-15-04 11:34 AM

Clerks
Chasing Amy

the big train 06-15-04 12:03 PM


Originally posted by LiquidSky
Cult films cannot be "overrated" (a term I'm sick of) or "underrated".
I agree with this. I prefer to use the term "overhyped."


However, I also agree that Donnie Darko is a turd. :D








and I am a big Troop Beverly Hills and Ladybugs fan :blush:

Giles 06-15-04 12:09 PM


Originally posted by the big train


and I am a big Troop Beverly Hills and Ladybugs fan :blush:

hooray!

the big train 06-15-04 12:12 PM

Yeah, we'll see how far that gets me!

LiquidSky 06-15-04 12:25 PM


Originally posted by the big train
and I am a big Troop Beverly Hills fan :blush:
"....attention K-Mart shoppers......" :)

Daytripper 06-15-04 01:05 PM


Originally posted by the big train
Yeah, we'll see how far that gets me!
How about the Hall of Shame? ;) Was your response for admitting you like "Troop Beverly Hills" and "Ladybugs"? If so, to each his own. Just like freudguy said, one can disagree without trying to make the other feel inferior. Or saying the movie is a turd.

Rival11 06-15-04 05:35 PM


Originally posted by freudguy
Threads of this kind always seem to illicit reponses by people that think they have better taste than others and seem to feel a need to tell them about it. You don't like a movie that I like? Fine. However, don't tell me or others that my taste is inferior to yours. When you do, any credibility you may have in the eyes of others is diminished by your own film-snobbery (even if someone agrees with you).
Are you saying this because somebody picked you out or because people selected to say they "hate" a bunch of your favorite movies?

FuzzyBallz 06-15-04 07:27 PM


Originally posted by Rival11
Are you saying this because somebody picked you out or because people selected to say they "hate" a bunch of your favorite movies?
LOL, someone must've dissed Spice World and Pokemon the Movie.

RyoHazuki 06-15-04 07:56 PM


Originally posted by LiquidSky
That is uncalled for. It's ridiculous that other people have different tastes than you?
Its ridiculous that so many people rant and rave about a very crappy movie.

RyoHazuki 06-15-04 07:57 PM


Originally posted by SweetP
BWAHHH!!!
Listen kid, the day you stop worshipping that turd-burgler Christopher Lambert is the day I might take that turd of a comment seriously.

Such unwarratented agression torwards "Donnie Darko" leads me to believe you may secretly watch your overplayed "Troop Beverly Hills" video in your footed Tonka pajamas.
But then again, I enjoy a good round of masturbation as I watch my beloved "Xanadu", so who am I to judge?

Hey, who likes Hot Pockets?

Christopher Lambert? Where does he come in?

island007 06-15-04 08:21 PM

All this talk about Donnie Darko piqued my interest.


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