Just got back from seeing Riddick
06-09-04, 10:16 PM
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Just got back from seeing Riddick
I thought it was decent. The special effects and the action scenes very good. Overall, I enjoyed it and was entertained. The plot is a bit hokey though... something I'd expect from a comic book or a juvenile sci-fi book. I wondered if the writers were trying to go for a deeper meaning than what was on the surface though:
It's worth the price of a matinee. The DVD should be pretty nice... there was some great surround sound.
And "Jack" was hot.
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It's worth the price of a matinee. The DVD should be pretty nice... there was some great surround sound.
And "Jack" was hot.
06-10-04, 06:15 AM
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I have a screening pass to this for tomorrow, but I haven't seen the first one (Pitch Black) yet.
Since I happen to own the original-release DVD (unopened still), I could watch it during the day before the screener, but I'd rather not do that (I like watching movies, especially scary ones, at night...) if I can help it. Since Pitch Black is supposed to be really good, I'd much rather watch it some evening when I'm ready for it, rather than forcing it upon myself for the sake of a (supposedly) lesser sequel.
Does it matter/will I suffer if I watch Chronicles first and then Pitch Black later?
Or do you think it's important I see Pitch Black first- either for the sake of continuity (so Chronicles is more enjoyable) or for the sake of surprise (so Pitch Black is more enjoyable)?
Since I happen to own the original-release DVD (unopened still), I could watch it during the day before the screener, but I'd rather not do that (I like watching movies, especially scary ones, at night...) if I can help it. Since Pitch Black is supposed to be really good, I'd much rather watch it some evening when I'm ready for it, rather than forcing it upon myself for the sake of a (supposedly) lesser sequel.
Does it matter/will I suffer if I watch Chronicles first and then Pitch Black later?
Or do you think it's important I see Pitch Black first- either for the sake of continuity (so Chronicles is more enjoyable) or for the sake of surprise (so Pitch Black is more enjoyable)?
06-10-04, 06:21 AM
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I have a screening pass to this for tomorrow
06-10-04, 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
the bridge eh? I'm still on the fence on going to that screening. Laker game and all.
the bridge eh? I'm still on the fence on going to that screening. Laker game and all.
I mean why not go and tivo the game
06-10-04, 10:26 AM
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I was actually excited about seeing the movie after watching the trailers but was disappointed after seeing the actual movie.
Riddick seems to be too much like a superhero because he almost seems indestructible and I never thought for a second that he was in any real danger. They also never really described why the Necromongers had to convert everybody to their ways or what the Necromongers really were. There are also too many characters and worlds, which makes the movie more complicated than it should be.
I agree that there was some good action scenes, but there were not enough to save this movie.
Riddick seems to be too much like a superhero because he almost seems indestructible and I never thought for a second that he was in any real danger. They also never really described why the Necromongers had to convert everybody to their ways or what the Necromongers really were. There are also too many characters and worlds, which makes the movie more complicated than it should be.
I agree that there was some good action scenes, but there were not enough to save this movie.
06-10-04, 10:35 AM
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since the Lakers are going to ...
I mean why not go and tivo the game
since the Lakers are going to ...
I mean why not go and tivo the game
06-10-04, 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by maxinquaye
I have a screening pass to this for tomorrow, but I haven't seen the first one (Pitch Black) yet.
Since I happen to own the original-release DVD (unopened still), I could watch it during the day before the screener, but I'd rather not do that (I like watching movies, especially scary ones, at night...) if I can help it. Since Pitch Black is supposed to be really good, I'd much rather watch it some evening when I'm ready for it, rather than forcing it upon myself for the sake of a (supposedly) lesser sequel.
Does it matter/will I suffer if I watch Chronicles first and then Pitch Black later?
Or do you think it's important I see Pitch Black first- either for the sake of continuity (so Chronicles is more enjoyable) or for the sake of surprise (so Pitch Black is more enjoyable)?
I have a screening pass to this for tomorrow, but I haven't seen the first one (Pitch Black) yet.
Since I happen to own the original-release DVD (unopened still), I could watch it during the day before the screener, but I'd rather not do that (I like watching movies, especially scary ones, at night...) if I can help it. Since Pitch Black is supposed to be really good, I'd much rather watch it some evening when I'm ready for it, rather than forcing it upon myself for the sake of a (supposedly) lesser sequel.
Does it matter/will I suffer if I watch Chronicles first and then Pitch Black later?
Or do you think it's important I see Pitch Black first- either for the sake of continuity (so Chronicles is more enjoyable) or for the sake of surprise (so Pitch Black is more enjoyable)?
06-10-04, 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by BrewCrew
I was actually excited about seeing the movie after watching the trailers but was disappointed after seeing the actual movie.
Riddick seems to be too much like a superhero because he almost seems indestructible and I never thought for a second that he was in any real danger. They also never really described why the Necromongers had to convert everybody to their ways or what the Necromongers really were. There are also too many characters and worlds, which makes the movie more complicated than it should be.
I agree that there was some good action scenes, but there were not enough to save this movie.
I was actually excited about seeing the movie after watching the trailers but was disappointed after seeing the actual movie.
Riddick seems to be too much like a superhero because he almost seems indestructible and I never thought for a second that he was in any real danger. They also never really described why the Necromongers had to convert everybody to their ways or what the Necromongers really were. There are also too many characters and worlds, which makes the movie more complicated than it should be.
I agree that there was some good action scenes, but there were not enough to save this movie.
06-10-04, 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by DodgingCars
I actually think they have very little in common with each other. It's basically got the same character, but in a whole different kind of movie. I think C.O.R. can be watched without seeing Pitch Black -- which is probably why they didn't bother putting PB in the title of the "sequel."
I actually think they have very little in common with each other. It's basically got the same character, but in a whole different kind of movie. I think C.O.R. can be watched without seeing Pitch Black -- which is probably why they didn't bother putting PB in the title of the "sequel."
RIDDICK references a lot of the relationships in BLACK, and two of the characters from the first film show up and talk about past events. The person I attended the RIDDICK screening with had not seen BLACK, and was lost from the get go (the film already being a very dense fantasy film).
As for the action sequences, I think Twohy made a big mistake by chopping them up so severely. The adventure segments are good, but once Riddick starts a "beat down," the film goes into Michael Bay mode for no reason.
Maybe beating up guys in rubber suits looks silly when you get a good look at it?
And they didn't call it PITCH BLACK 2 because Universal is spending $100 million on a sequel (which this is) to a film that topped out at $40 million. They don't want people to grasp that idea.
06-10-04, 01:52 PM
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CoR is just densely plotted but easily followed by genre fans. (And if you're not a sci-fi adventure fan there won't be much here for you anyway.) You don't need to see Pitch Black first. It adds less than 1% to the understanding of the movie.
As my buddy said after the preview, "It's just like a 2000 AD comic." Silly fun, in other words.
As my buddy said after the preview, "It's just like a 2000 AD comic." Silly fun, in other words.
06-10-04, 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by scott shelton
Really?
RIDDICK references a lot of the relationships in BLACK, and two of the characters from the first film show up and talk about past events. The person I attended the RIDDICK screening with had not seen BLACK, and was lost from the get go (the film already being a very dense fantasy film).
As for the action sequences, I think Twohy made a big mistake by chopping them up so severely. The adventure segments are good, but once Riddick starts a "beat down," the film goes into Michael Bay mode for no reason.
Maybe beating up guys in rubber suits looks silly when you get a good look at it?
And they didn't call it PITCH BLACK 2 because Universal is spending $100 million on a sequel (which this is) to a film that topped out at $40 million. They don't want people to grasp that idea.
Really?
RIDDICK references a lot of the relationships in BLACK, and two of the characters from the first film show up and talk about past events. The person I attended the RIDDICK screening with had not seen BLACK, and was lost from the get go (the film already being a very dense fantasy film).
As for the action sequences, I think Twohy made a big mistake by chopping them up so severely. The adventure segments are good, but once Riddick starts a "beat down," the film goes into Michael Bay mode for no reason.
Maybe beating up guys in rubber suits looks silly when you get a good look at it?
And they didn't call it PITCH BLACK 2 because Universal is spending $100 million on a sequel (which this is) to a film that topped out at $40 million. They don't want people to grasp that idea.
06-10-04, 02:45 PM
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If you haven't seen Pitch Black already and are going to see CoR then don't bother seeing Pitch Black until after you see CoR. The main problem I have with the sequel is that I was expecting something else and thought it would be more like Pitch Black. Maybe if i never saw Pitch Black I would have enjoyed the movie more.
06-10-04, 02:59 PM
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Re: Just got back from seeing Riddick
Originally posted by DodgingCars
I thought it was decent. The special effects and the action scenes very good. Overall, I enjoyed it and was entertained. The plot is a bit hokey though... something I'd expect from a comic book or a juvenile sci-fi book. I wondered if the writers were trying to go for a deeper meaning than what was on the surface though:
It's worth the price of a matinee. The DVD should be pretty nice... there was some great surround sound.
I thought it was decent. The special effects and the action scenes very good. Overall, I enjoyed it and was entertained. The plot is a bit hokey though... something I'd expect from a comic book or a juvenile sci-fi book. I wondered if the writers were trying to go for a deeper meaning than what was on the surface though:
Spoiler:
It's worth the price of a matinee. The DVD should be pretty nice... there was some great surround sound.
06-10-04, 03:29 PM
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I can tell this is nothing like "Pitch Black". Doesn't bother anyone else that it is such a departure and the only semblance is the one character?
I thought PB was such an original concept and a true horror flick with sci-fi as a regurgitated after thought. And now we have these societies and planets with peeps and convuluted stories..where are the
I mean don't get me wrong, I guess the character of Riddick is interesting, but why not retread original territory a la "Aliens" and have him erradicate the meanies for some reason or another by himself or with some help. I dunno...I just think this whole new franchise concept is just wrong!
I thought PB was such an original concept and a true horror flick with sci-fi as a regurgitated after thought. And now we have these societies and planets with peeps and convuluted stories..where are the
Spoiler:
I mean don't get me wrong, I guess the character of Riddick is interesting, but why not retread original territory a la "Aliens" and have him erradicate the meanies for some reason or another by himself or with some help. I dunno...I just think this whole new franchise concept is just wrong!
06-10-04, 04:32 PM
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Thanks for the comments, I think I'll try to see it if I can. It sounds like my assumptions about the two films were pretty spot on- that they have very little in common, and that Universal would never greenlight a $100M+ movie that heavily depends on people already having seen what amounted to a semi-cult film.
Yeah exactly. I think I'm going to tape it, and hopefully not hear the outcome before I get home. My screening pass requires a college ID, which I have, but which also "might" be a few years old and invalid. Since you seem to go to these screenings often, are they going to be strict about this?
I don't want to get there and be turned down, thereby missing both the movie AND the game
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
the bridge eh? I'm still on the fence on going to that screening. Laker game and all.
the bridge eh? I'm still on the fence on going to that screening. Laker game and all.
I don't want to get there and be turned down, thereby missing both the movie AND the game
06-10-04, 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by scott1598
I can tell this is nothing like "Pitch Black". Doesn't bother anyone else that it is such a departure and the only semblance is the one character?
I thought PB was such an original concept and a true horror flick with sci-fi as a regurgitated after thought. And now we have these societies and planets with peeps and convuluted stories..where are the
I mean don't get me wrong, I guess the character of Riddick is interesting, but why not retread original territory a la "Aliens" and have him erradicate the meanies for some reason or another by himself or with some help. I dunno...I just think this whole new franchise concept is just wrong!
I can tell this is nothing like "Pitch Black". Doesn't bother anyone else that it is such a departure and the only semblance is the one character?
I thought PB was such an original concept and a true horror flick with sci-fi as a regurgitated after thought. And now we have these societies and planets with peeps and convuluted stories..where are the
Spoiler:
I mean don't get me wrong, I guess the character of Riddick is interesting, but why not retread original territory a la "Aliens" and have him erradicate the meanies for some reason or another by himself or with some help. I dunno...I just think this whole new franchise concept is just wrong!
But I'll have to see the film. That'll be the real judge. Looking forward to it though.
06-10-04, 11:07 PM
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Just back from the sneak preview.
Excellant movie. Plot holes? sure. But still great fun.
Really good special effects and CGI. Lots o surround sound.
Non-stop Riddick-isms. He really breaks-it-off-in the baddies.
Excellant movie. Plot holes? sure. But still great fun.
Really good special effects and CGI. Lots o surround sound.
Non-stop Riddick-isms. He really breaks-it-off-in the baddies.
