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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kill Bill: Volume 2 thoughts (part 2)
Originally posted by Dr. DVD Actually, QT said that the daughter would be raised by Sofie Fatale and probably being trained by some other one of Bill's co-horts. |
Originally posted by Abob Teff [B]I get a kick out of everybody pointing to the second half saying that it reveals so much of the story . . . it actually does very little story telling (less than the first half I think). It fleshes out the final assassinations, and tosses a little back story in, but actually opens up many more questions than it answers. And yes, the movie does raise some perfunctory questions about what this person did, what connection this person had to that, so on and so forth, but you act like that's somehow a bad thing. It makes this film a living breathing universe, as opposed to the normal movie where there three people in the movie and those are the only people who exist. God I loved this movie if you can't tell. It's just fabulous and, combined with Volume 1 just purely amazing entertainment. |
Originally posted by Dr. DVD The go watch piles of crud like Bad Boys II, Fast and the Furious, and Alien vs. Predator. Everytime I see Vol.2, it gets better. |
Originally posted by Rypro 525 the bleeping idea is mentioned on the first dvd. they thought it would be a good idea if the assassin was nameless till the end of hte movie. |
Originally posted by Rivero And how did this affect the story or film in any way? The bleeping was an obvious way to point that out...humorous, while making you go "hmm, I wonder what her name is." |
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kill Bill: Volume 2 thoughts (part 2)
Originally posted by Rypro 525 wonder how a woman with no arms could train somebody? |
Originally posted by Rivero I'm sorry but the dialogues in Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction are infinitely, infinitely better than those found in Kill Bill Volumes 1 and especially 2. And this is coming from someone who LOVED Volume 2 and currently places it in the Top 4 films of 2004 at the moment. |
One thing that I want to point out that I never did in any of my old reviews is to acknowledge Robert Rodriguez's score. I practically bashed his music-conducting skills prior to seeing VOL-2 for the first time, but now that I've had the opportunity to watch the DVD for the---Oh, what is it, 12th time since I've bought it?---I really do have to eat some dirty crow thanks to the quite-brilliant score he provided.
In fact, when I first saw VOL-2 in theaters, I could've sworn that the music cue that plays when Elle collects the money from Budd was lifted from an obscure spaghetti western that I haven't yet seen. But come to find out, that was all Rodriguez. Good job, Rod. And what a damn fine movie you worked on...FOR FREE! |
Morricone deserves much more credit for the great score than Rodriguez does.
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Originally posted by Rivero Morricone deserves much more credit for the great score than Rodriguez does. |
Originally posted by jaeufraser It makes the character more iconic. Instead of going "Beatrix Kiddo" everyone knew the character as "The Bride." By the end of the film, the story needed to know her as a human being, so we get the reveal of her name. The end is about her as a person. But before that she's a killing machine, and the idea is to have her be a nameless bride, like the man with no name. The bleeping was an obvious way to point that out...humorous, while making you go "hmm, I wonder what her name is." |
OK, I'm almost 2 years late to the party, but anyway... I saw this in the theater when it first came out but just rewatched it on DVD last night for the first time.
I love 95% of this movie. But for me, it really bogged down in the last chapter with Bill pontificating about just about anything and everything. I don't know if Tarantino was just so in love with his own dialogue, or Carradine, or what. But it just seemed to stretch on for an inordinate amount of time. I didn't really feel the tension building either. While the ideas put forth in the Superman speech made sense, I didn't believe that Bill was the guy who should have been espousing on them. I can't picture Bill as a comic book guy. Maybe QT should've left that speech for some other movie. It just seemed more like Bill being on an endless soliloquy than interaction. The ending was just a little bit of a letdown for me. While we finally DO get to see Beatrix "kill Bill" it wasn't as dramatic as one would hope. Within the tone of the movie it makes sense (using the 5 finger...) but I think it didn't really provide a climax. The climax happened 30 minutes before when we see the awesome trailer fight with Elle and Beatrix. OK, I just had to get that out. I feel better now even if no one responds. Maybe I'll change my tune in future viewings. |
I think that speech very much was Bill. His talk about how Superman sees the world and others is actually how he sees the them. It was a great bit of insight into his character.
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When I saw it in theatre's 2 years ago, I kept having this thought that it might dissapoint (similar to T3).
But when I was actually in there watching the various trailers, something in my head told me not to worry about it, sit back and enjoy the show. I did that, and I Loved it, I haven't walked out of a theater that satisfied since. |
I'd have to agree more or less. While certain points bogged down during the movie, I left the theater with the biggest smile of any movie I've ever seen.
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Still waiting on those special edition dvds.
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Originally Posted by Jray
The ending was just a little bit of a letdown for me. While we finally DO get to see Beatrix "kill Bill" it wasn't as dramatic as one would hope. Within the tone of the movie it makes sense (using the 5 finger...) but I think it didn't really provide a climax. The climax happened 30 minutes before when we see the awesome trailer fight with Elle and Beatrix.
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Originally Posted by thematahara
Still waiting on those special edition dvds.
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Originally Posted by RichC2
I'd have to agree more or less. While certain points bogged down during the movie, I left the theater with the biggest smile of any movie I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by thematahara
Still waiting on those special edition dvds.
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