The Girl Next Door
04-10-04, 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Seantn
The audience clapped when I saw Resident Evil, if that tells you anything about audiences clapping and what it may mean.
The audience clapped when I saw Resident Evil, if that tells you anything about audiences clapping and what it may mean.
04-10-04, 09:53 PM
#130
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Originally posted by Chim
I saw this film and it was fantastic. The Audience reactions were incredible; everybody cracked up and there was actual applause at the end of the film. I can't even remember the last time someone clapped at the end of a film.
I saw this film and it was fantastic. The Audience reactions were incredible; everybody cracked up and there was actual applause at the end of the film. I can't even remember the last time someone clapped at the end of a film.
04-10-04, 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Is it time for another "What is Roger Ebert thinking" thread?
In all honesty, I seem to notice a lot of mainstream critics feel the need to bash movies like this when they are released. Granted, most movies like this are crap, but whenever a gem comes along it seems as though they have no way to distinguish it from the rest of the garbage.
Is it time for another "What is Roger Ebert thinking" thread?
In all honesty, I seem to notice a lot of mainstream critics feel the need to bash movies like this when they are released. Granted, most movies like this are crap, but whenever a gem comes along it seems as though they have no way to distinguish it from the rest of the garbage.
Here's a few choice snippets:
A good movie could presumably be made from this premise -- a good movie can be made from anything, in the right hands and way -- but this is a dishonest, quease-inducing "comedy" that had me feeling uneasy and then unclean. Who in the world read this script and thought it was acceptable?
[The porn producer], named Kelly, is played by Timothy Olyphant with a skill that would have distinguished a better movie, but it doesn't work here, because the movie never levels with us. When a guy his age (36, according to IMDB.com) "used to be the boyfriend" of a girl her age (19, according to the plot description) and she is already at 19 a famous porn star, there is a good chance the creep corrupted her at an early age; think Traci Lords. That he is now her "producer" under an "exclusive contract" is an elevated form of pimping. To act in porn as a teenager is not a decision freely taken by most teenage girls, and not a life to envy.
We can deal with porn stars, lap dances and whatever else, in a movie that declares itself and plays fair, but to insert this material into something with the look and feel of a teen comedy makes it unsettling. The TV ads will attract audiences expecting something like "American Pie"; they'll be shocked by the squalid content of this film.
04-11-04, 12:25 AM
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Actually, I think that's a fair criticism. The film is marketed as just another teen comedy. Instead, it's talking about a girl who used to be an underage porn star. In this case, I would say his moral concerns are perfectly valid.
04-11-04, 12:52 AM
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anyone who is looking to hollywood for any kind of morality or expecting to find moral boundries of any kind is clearly insane.
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04-11-04, 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by jekbrown
anyone who is looking to hollywood for any kind of morality or expecting to find moral boundries of any kind is clearly insane.
j
anyone who is looking to hollywood for any kind of morality or expecting to find moral boundries of any kind is clearly insane.
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08-25-04, 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by JCWBobC
I thought the movie was funny but if an actress is going to play a porn star in a movie she should be willing to take her clothes off.
I thought the movie was funny but if an actress is going to play a porn star in a movie she should be willing to take her clothes off.
Originally posted by Rypro 525
she has a no nudity clause in her contract.
she has a no nudity clause in her contract.
Anyway, this movie was weird for me. I thought it was very funny, and as a comedy is was great. But the darker, more serious stuff well completely flat. I enjoyed it the first time, but I have zero desire to watch it again.
08-25-04, 03:25 PM
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"The Girl Next Door" is the John Hughes pic for our time thread!
First off, I don't want to get into all the skin or lack thereof in this thread. I think this movie had much more to do with life than all of that. Sure, that was a theme, but it was used in such a tasteful way and the story was not trying to exploit the characters in a seedy way. So please all the Elisha Cuthbert objections to not dis-robing, please stay away.
As far as this film goes, I honestly think it is the John Hughes movie for this generation (being 2000). It was all the sappy 80's cheese fests that we know and loved and to some grew up on.
In this movie I saw definite shades of "Sixteen Candles", "Can't Buy Me Love", "Angus", "Risky Business", "Orange County", and many others. I know the latter is more recent and I don't think Can't is Hughes, but wrap them all up and you have "The Girl Next Door".
Of course, it wasn't the greatest movie there ever was and there was some wrong with it (I could have done without ALL the slow montages and sappy songs, plus I think it could have been wrapped up a little neater in less time) Maybe sometimes stick more to formula instead of going out of your way to defy formula. However, despite the mini- gripes the movie was endearing and had true heart. It stood up for all the kids who just got by without having too much fun or "rockin" times in HS.
Emile Hirsch really took over the 'Patrick Dempsey' role with ease and style. He had charm and that geeky awkwardness absolutely needed for this role. Elisha was of course swimming, but was pretty much designated to the object of affection and the eye candy and I don't think too much acting was involved, though no offense to her talents.
Anyway, for those looking to re-live, recapture, or simply want a fun hour and 50 minutes you can only do yourself a complete solid by renting this ode to a John Hughes bygone era!
Anyone else?...again, please no posts about nekkidness, just harmless, silly raves or rants about "The Girl Next Door"
As far as this film goes, I honestly think it is the John Hughes movie for this generation (being 2000). It was all the sappy 80's cheese fests that we know and loved and to some grew up on.
In this movie I saw definite shades of "Sixteen Candles", "Can't Buy Me Love", "Angus", "Risky Business", "Orange County", and many others. I know the latter is more recent and I don't think Can't is Hughes, but wrap them all up and you have "The Girl Next Door".
Of course, it wasn't the greatest movie there ever was and there was some wrong with it (I could have done without ALL the slow montages and sappy songs, plus I think it could have been wrapped up a little neater in less time) Maybe sometimes stick more to formula instead of going out of your way to defy formula. However, despite the mini- gripes the movie was endearing and had true heart. It stood up for all the kids who just got by without having too much fun or "rockin" times in HS.
Emile Hirsch really took over the 'Patrick Dempsey' role with ease and style. He had charm and that geeky awkwardness absolutely needed for this role. Elisha was of course swimming, but was pretty much designated to the object of affection and the eye candy and I don't think too much acting was involved, though no offense to her talents.
Anyway, for those looking to re-live, recapture, or simply want a fun hour and 50 minutes you can only do yourself a complete solid by renting this ode to a John Hughes bygone era!
Anyone else?...again, please no posts about nekkidness, just harmless, silly raves or rants about "The Girl Next Door"
08-25-04, 03:30 PM
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I enjoyed it. It was marketed as your typical "American Pie" style teen sex comedy, so thats what I expected when I saw it. However, it reminded me of the movies you mentioned above as well. The fact that Elisha Cuthbert is hot as all hell didn't hurt either. 
08-25-04, 04:00 PM
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2 cups say anything
3/4 cup of animal house
1/2 pretty in pink
1 teaspoon nudity
3 cups water
mix and you got yourself this flick. John Hughes movie of the generation? I'm not sue I will go there but I will say that it was a good flick.
The lack of Cuthbert nudity was a little bit of a let down but she is hawt throughout the flick.
Now the big question on why it didn't do all that well in the box office? Marketing. This was suppose to come out and had tons and tons of test screenings and advanced screenings and then it got bumped a couple of months. marketed again and people figured they already saw it. Marketing dropped the ball on this one.
Then they had it marketed as teen flick with an R rating. counter productive if you ask me as those who they were pointing this at couldn't really go see it freely.
3/4 cup of animal house
1/2 pretty in pink
1 teaspoon nudity
3 cups water
mix and you got yourself this flick. John Hughes movie of the generation? I'm not sue I will go there but I will say that it was a good flick.
The lack of Cuthbert nudity was a little bit of a let down but she is hawt throughout the flick.
Now the big question on why it didn't do all that well in the box office? Marketing. This was suppose to come out and had tons and tons of test screenings and advanced screenings and then it got bumped a couple of months. marketed again and people figured they already saw it. Marketing dropped the ball on this one.
Then they had it marketed as teen flick with an R rating. counter productive if you ask me as those who they were pointing this at couldn't really go see it freely.
08-25-04, 04:05 PM
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her in tube top and short shorts. 
Good ol' marketing. It makes you believe you will see her nude being all "Unrated" and all. But all you get is other porn stars nude.
Good ol' marketing. It makes you believe you will see her nude being all "Unrated" and all. But all you get is other porn stars nude.
08-25-04, 05:57 PM
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I got this as a blind buy. Probably the best one I have ever made.
I think they should have released it in February like they intended and not tried to make it a springtime release. Hell, with the marketing campaign, not much could have saved it.
I think they should have released it in February like they intended and not tried to make it a springtime release. Hell, with the marketing campaign, not much could have saved it.
08-25-04, 06:17 PM
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I think EC looked awesome just the way they showed her. Sometimes less is more!
Yeah, the marketing might have been off and they didn't really know what they wanted from this and who they wanted this for. Of course John Hughes would have rolled in his grave if he were dead of course being it wasn't as syruppy sweet as his, considering the raciest thing about "Sixteen Candles" was one f- bomb and some shown underwear.
Plus the fact if you watched the extras, you notice they did several takes of some of the racier scenes. Ones with tops, ones without. Scenes with f- bombs and some without. So they were def playing to the DVD crowd. So I think all in all the peeps on this were very schzo on what they actually wanted as the end result. Whatever it was and who ever it was for...it worked. Simple and sweet!
Yeah, the marketing might have been off and they didn't really know what they wanted from this and who they wanted this for. Of course John Hughes would have rolled in his grave if he were dead of course being it wasn't as syruppy sweet as his, considering the raciest thing about "Sixteen Candles" was one f- bomb and some shown underwear.
Plus the fact if you watched the extras, you notice they did several takes of some of the racier scenes. Ones with tops, ones without. Scenes with f- bombs and some without. So they were def playing to the DVD crowd. So I think all in all the peeps on this were very schzo on what they actually wanted as the end result. Whatever it was and who ever it was for...it worked. Simple and sweet!
08-25-04, 06:21 PM
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I think the muddled and IMO, too dark of a turn the movie took in the middle brings this down a few notches to being a John Hughes film. I'd go with either "TGND is the John Hughes pic that could have been" or "...that almost was". Still enjoyable though and I might pick it up one of these days.
