I don't think what that scene needs is CGI, but more style and atmosphere - that's not the job of the effects artists, it's the job of the director. The suits look good, and there are a few neat moments, but mostly it's just two big guys slapping the crap out of each other.

The Predator suit looked aweful and the fight scene was really bad.

I got a free ticket to see the movie though, so I'll see it anyways.

I don't have a good feeling about it anymore though.

Zodo, dont compromise your integrity, skip the movie, even if its free.

Okay, that clip gave us a nice scene of a Predator doing the old slicey dicey on an alien. But....guess that don't mean nothing since it's PG-13 and is hence rendered a watered down mess.

I think this movie should be viewed as the prequel it is, and I have a feeling that if you watched this first and then the subsequent Alien and Predator movies, it might fit in rather well. Sort of like a fun romp before the real story begins.

My question... WHERE DOES THIS THINKING COME FROM?!?!?!?!1

SCI FI VIOLENCE IS NOT THE SAME AS AN R RATED HUMAN GORE VIOLENCE. meaning seeing acid coming out of a puppet does not warrent a R rating. Meaning the preators can rip them apart piece by piece and it wouldn't get past a Pg-13 rating because of the FANTASY VIOLENCE.

If the predator was slicing a humans arm off.. YES, that would hit a R rating. An alien on the other hand is a puppet and that's the way they see it. I don't see how it's watered down? There will still be plenty of aliens popping like corn in a microwave. So how is it watered down again?

While I have to say that the fight scene certainly left me non-plussed, the HBO special I saw last night made the movie look really awesome. So I guess it did its job and now I want to see it in theaters.

Bishop!!!! Awesome trailer and duel clip.

Probably cause 5-10 people get killed in this thing and it's still pg-13. And I haven't really heard a single review stating this thing was awash in alien gore.

I've also heard it's like 90 minutes, not that that has to do with the topic at hand.

Well the claim I was pointing at was that simply because it is PG-13 you wont get the "Alien gore".. which we know isn't the reason why either franchise was rated R. Acid and Green neon paint isn't a R causer. it was red human blood that did it in. to complain that you wont have alien gore because of a pg-13 rating is pretty silly right now. give it a while before thinking that.

Wasn't the 1st Predator only about 90 minutes??

Its really hard to judge due to the crappy streaming aspects of the fight. The predator looks bad, he doesn't have stature of the original predator, but I guess there will be several types of predators in this movie..so who knows?

It's all about having good FX. To me, it's irrelevant whether the effects are CGI or real... if we're talking this flick, the Hulk, etc... so long as they're good. They'll mix it up in this movie, but IMO, it wasn't terribly good. Hopefully all the predators don't look that way and the alien wasn't so hot either.

Note - I never complained about the potential FX in the movie, one way or the other before.

Like I said earlier, the fight had some high level slicey dicey violence. I wouldn't be surprised if the death toll among aliens and predators in this movie is beyond reason, but because it ain't humans being wasted it gets a PG-13, and therefore must suck.

What's also interesting is that this movie is giving us fans quite a bit of what we have always wanted to see in both series.

1) Aliens on earth: check
2) More bad a$$ looking Predators: check
3) Aliens fighting the Predators: check

Yet, it's all for naught because of a PG-13? Go figure.

Only 90 minutes? What piece of crap!!!!

Honestly, why do all people see movies today as having no worth unless they are either rated R or over two hours in length. To me a 90 minute running time sounds like the studio knew that little more was needed than some AvP action and that's what they will give us. Basically, a fast paced monster mash and little else.
Be honest, would you WANT to watch a two hour plus movie directed by Paul S. Anderson? If it were that length, people would be calling it a pretentous piece of crap, which it most likely would be considering its subject matter.

I'll just say I'm not impressed.

Well, one person that has seen the film talks about the PG-13 rating in the Horror Channel website forum (http://www.horrorchannel.com/forums/...pic.php?t=3741).

Here's a snippet:
"Now...about the PG-13 rating, which I tried so hard to ignore: IT SHOWS!!! God, does it show! Most of the violence in this film is not directed towards Aliens or Predators...but HUMANS. When it's time for a chestbursting or a tongue-death, all we get is a typical cut away. Gone is the colorful profanity that was so much fun to listen to. Even the token "ugly muther*****er" line gets cut off half-way through. This is exactly what we all feared: A franchise film that looks and feels as if it were made for little kids. I'm not saying an R-rating would've automatically made this good (far from it)...but it would've at least given us some fun carnage. "

Looks like my fears were realized from this person's point of view.

I can't believe I read this whole thread. There was so much repetition in the arguments.

In regards to things like the "tongue-death" how many of those actually were shown on-screen in the Alien series? I can only remember 1 and I think it was in Alien 3. Most of the other times all we see is a human head, then pan to the alien and the tongue shoots out. We all know what happens, but we almost NEVER see it. Chestbursting on the other hand... well as Jack pointed out we see a the Predator grab the burster in the trailer, so we should get to see at least 1 of those scenes.

But you know, I don't care how bad the movie is, as long as it ends with a restrained Predator with an Alien egg right in front of him... that or it happens IN the movie. (I have no idea how it ends, this is just something I hope for, hence no spoiler.)

Time to throw in Alien... I wonder if I can squeeze in the whole series today? I don;t have either of the Predator movies to watch.

Thank you C-mart. I've been saying this for the longest time. I don't see why people are relating the franchises with extreme gore.

As far as I can remember, the majority of all the deaths in the franchise were really cut away from. There are only a very few that are actually shown to full gory detail.

I agree. if so wouldnt be a bad idea.

Well, let's be real here. That's sorta true for Alien (though every film had at least a couple very gory shots including chestbursters and such) though if you made any of the Alien movies pg-13, they'd be quite different movies. Predator was hardly a cut away event. In fact Predator was quite gory, with spines being ripped out, arms being shot off, skinned bodies and more. nonetheless these films ALL have moments of extreme gore. Alien could be pg-13, but that would involve cutting out perhaps the most famous scene from the movie. Doesn't really work does it?

Nonetheless Jack I don't understand why you argue against us who wish for an R rating. Everything including reviews (like the one right above) indicates this film is a watered down mess. I think a little gore and carnage would make it more entertaining. After Paul Anderson was signed, I think most people lost hope but for a gory carnage filled popcorn flick. This IS a monster movie with more human deaths than the original Alien or Predator. I mean it's fine that you dont' care about gore and don't think it adds anything to a monster flick like this, but a lot of us do.

Hi there,

Before I begin, I want to make this clear. I happen to be one of those people who enjoyed some of Paul W.S. Anderson's earlier films, like Event Horizon and Resident Evil...

This being said, I found AVP extremely bad. I mean, really! Much has been said about this film, so I'm not going to repeat it.

However, I believe there's at least one indication there was some cutting done - badly - on this film.

Those of you who can access it can verify it: around minute 46, when the group of people is attacked by two Predators, someone screams "The pyramid's shifting again!"

Now, where did that "again" come from? It didn't move before, and nobody said anything about shifting corridors.

Another interesting thing: where did that elevator come from at the end? They lowered themselves on ropes, there was no elevator, although the last surviving human seems perfectly familiar with it.

This is only circumstantial evidence, and does not make the film suck any less... However, savage cutting *may* be an explanation for how bad the end product feels.

I already thought of that and regardless of any missing scenes the line is justified because the pyramid's first shift was when they picked up the shoulder canons. So when they say it's shifting again.. it was, the first shifting already happened.

and the elevator brought down the equipment. Though I'm sure any scenes re-edited about an elevator will not bring justice to this piece of shit film.

LOL, so true.

Although, when they picked out the weapons, they were just shut inside the chambers, but the ground didn't move under them.

It will be interesting to see how the film will appear in DVD form... And to think that Anderson turned down the chance to direct Resident Evil 2 for THIS ?

Actually a stair case opened when they took the shoulder canons. so it wasn't just the doors shutting, the pyramids actually shifted.

And I would have liked it if he would have done RE2. that way someone better would have written and directed AVP. anyone could have done a better job.

...even Michael Bay !