Honestly Jack, i think Paul Anderson is worth about 7-10 Blahs. He's the main reason i am not excited to see this film.

I'll still go see the movie but i'm keeping my expectations at an all time low, and that sucks cause i really love these characters.

I'll see your "blah"s and raise you twelve "ugh"s.

I'm actually looking forward to release day more than the film itself. I'm going to come into work and sell tickets with a little alien sticking out of my chest, bloodied and writhing.

Oddly enough, that won't even be in the film now.

You see a predator catch a chest buster in his hand, I'm willing to bet that you will see them in the film.

if there is any reason to hate this film, it's not for the pg-13 rating..


there is worse things:


http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=242


i'm still there because it's free on the studio lot..

You know though...I think most of us had little hope this would be a good movie because of Paul Anderson. If anything we were just hoping for some good Alien v Predator action and some good ol death and gore stuff, like any B movie monster movie should have. Cause I don't think anyone was expecting anything better.

But oh well. Now with the pg-13 we know even that isn't true. And that review pretty much states lots of humans get killed in the movie...so it's pg-13 not just cause it's alien on alien, but because they jsut don't bother to show the human deaths. What a shame. I mean...this could've at least been a terminator 3 quality popcorn flick! But oh well.

I don't care what it is rated.
I like Paul W.S. Anderson.
I will go see it regardless.
That review was discouraging (and spoileriffic), but I can't condemn a movie I haven't seen.

I'm with you trigger.

though I still disagree with the Paul W.S. anderson, but shit, I'll give it a try simply because I have dreamed of aliens and predators on the big screen fighting for ages.

I think the original Alien might have gotten a PG-13 if not for the boobage... I think the MPAA is pretty loose on blood and gore, but pretty stuffy when it comes to boobies. It's like, what if they just threw in a boob shot in AvP to get an R rating? Would you complainers be all excited about it? Who cares if it's pg-13? It doesn't mean you can only see it if you're 13 years old. Being R rated doesn't make it a better movie either. I mean, I can see where some of you are coming from somewhat - you want to see lots of blood and gore and death on screen. I can respect that. But to not see it because of the rating is silly. It's Aliens vs Predators vs Humans... there will be blood and gore... and slime. Don't worry. I'm more concerned with whether it'll be entertaining and good than if there's gonna be 5 gallons of red syrup or 4 gallons.

wow trigger.. we agree on something.. I think this is the sign of doom.

I agree. predators R rating comes from hanging upside down skinned humans and the amount of Human vs Human violence. Predator 2 came from sex, drugs and language.

if there is something to worry about here is the story. if it screws up with your enjoyment of aliens fighting with predators. and a rating isn't going to effect that side at all. so no worries. enjoy yourself and yes, the story is going to suck. lets just hope the action is good.

I think many of you guys are way overestimating what a pg-13 movie can show. Alien could be a pg-13 rating? Sure, if you cut out all the language, the chest bursting scene, the flashes of nudity, and some more gore. Sure.

And let's be real here...people are pissed at the rating because we know what it means. Does anyone here honestly think it's pg-13 due to artistic intent? I mean seriously?

Everyone knows it pg-13 at studio request to reach a larger audience. Everyone knows it's pg-13 and directing by Paul Anderson. It's pg-13 cut down from what had to have started out as an R concept. What we'll get is flashy editing, quick cutaways and very fleeting views of slime and alien gore, and barely any blood and real death.

Let's be real...the pg-13 was just the cherry on top of an already crappy sounding movie. And there's a reason the pg-13 on this film is causing an uproar and not for the Riddick movie. Because that's what these movies are. We know the pg-13 is not a move that was done to make a better movie. So it's not just that it's pg-13 (though I'll be honest I think you're nuts if you think they could make a hard gory violent alien predator movie on pg-13...I've never seen one that is, even LoTR is fairly tame in comparison to R films) but more importantly it just represents what Fox is doing to this movie. They hired a hack to begin with, then this. THAT"S why everyone is so pissed. Gore was all we had left to hope for...at least for me.

Artistic intent? This is Paul Anderson we are talking about. Art is the farthest thing possible to say when mentioning him.

For all those who scream against the rating, I have to wonder if you really think more gore = better movie.

Did I ask for a hard core gore alien vs predator movie? No, I'm asking for a GOOD alien vs predator movie. Gore doesn't come into play when you speak of an alien or a predator. Not much gore involved in green glow in the dark paint and acid.

that's what the franchise was because of other outside elements which were pretty clear NOT going to be in this film.

If you are pissed about fox hiring a hack to begin with then jump on that. but the moment it's a bitch feast about the MPAA and how the ratings are a piece of crap then you step into the grounds of something else.... atleast to me.

Well Jack...let's try to have some perspective, this is a thread about the rating of this movie. I think most of us are just stayign on topic. If we just came in here and ranted about how awful Paul Anderson is, wouldn't that be...better for another thread? I'm sure we all did that to death. What you have here is the death knell for this movie. With Paul Anderson in charge, nobody was expecting anything but B movie junk. But you know what, we were at least hoping for some decent carnage. I don't know why it bothers you that so many are pissed at this rating. I mean this is a thread about the rating! And this type of movie being pg-13, well, would any in their right mind actually say it's a GOOD thing?

Does gore make a better movie? No, not necessarily. But when the only hope left anyone has for the movie is some nice special effects and some good ol carnage, what is left now? Honestly, I wasn't expecting anything better than Freddy vs Jason after WS got hired, but I figured we'll at least get some fun gore and crap like that movie. Seriously it's fairly obvious why everyone is pissed. This is a movie that just should be rated R to begin with. There's no logical reason within the realms of what people want to see in this movie that would justify this rating, except for the financial ones. But nobody here gives a crap about that. When we have a thread about Alien vs Predator, I'm sure the hate will be directed towards Paul Anderson. But in a thread about the rating of this movie..well...I imagine most people are going to talk about (and in this case rightly blast) the rating for being representative of a watered down stupid movie.

And maybe it sounds lame, maybe uneducated, but I ENJOY gore. While the first two Alien films and the first Predator are great for many reasons, I happend to love the extreme gore scenes. The chest bursting scenes? Carl Weathers with his arm chopped off? Skinned bodies? Acid burned faces? I love it. I didn't expect this film to have those better qualities of filmmaking like those films, but I at least figured it could match up in terms of action and gore. When that's all that's left to hope for, and the rating shows that won't be in the movie, why wouldn't we be bothered by the rating?

A lack of RED gore doesn't mean that there will be a total lack of gore in the sense that we were expecting from aliens fighting predator. as for special effects. I'm still pretty sure people are pleased that they did not resort to CGI and instead, used puppetry and animtronics for the movement of the alien and predators.

what's this last hope crap anyways?

Eh, I'll still watch it simply because it's aliens fighting predators. if it sucks, then I will say it sucks. but not till I atleast watch it.

Well I think you and I both agree Paul Anderson is a shitty director. So I was hardly expecting this movie to be good. But I was hoping for some good gore and alien scenes. I can enjoy a piece of junk movie for certain things, but there's little left here to interest me. That was my "last hope crap," as you put it, for this movie. Maybe I shouldn't have said anyone, but I know I speak for many people who agree with me.

I suppose I just don't associate Aliens or Predator with the typical GORE that comes with most horror. I'm not a fan of senseless gore for the sake of having it. never really cared for a lot of the horror films because of that. Predator was never really about gore. Aliens was more about deep space horror. not much gore in Alien. Aliens had very little gore and a lot of off screen killings.

I'm sure we could sit here and proclaim that we are speaking for however many other people who think they are right.. But just because a group of morons screams that the sky is purple, it does not make it so. Lets just stick to speaking for ourselves and our own taste.

I'm still on the stance that I will wait to see the film before I pass judgement. It may be total crap, it may be enjoyable. Damning it now will do no good for anything except add fuel to the flames of this witch hunt.

And if it does turn out to suck, You know the forum will be the first one I let know.

I was quite surprised to that this film was rated PG-13...

... I wonder how many people will bring their 5 year-olds to this one now?

Can't wait to see it!

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What the hell?

This movie is going to suck. Flat out.

Eh, it has aliens

it has predators..

If you're a fan of the franchise combination you must have played and enjoyed the capcom arcade scroller where the humans and predators work together..

it's going to be enjoyable for what it is.

I am with you on this Jack!

I'm a big Aliens franchise fan, I can even stomach most of Aliens: Resurrection. I'm also fan of Predator and have grown to like Predator 2, which I didn't care for initially. But Paul W.S. Anderson just doesn't do it for me. Unless I hear very strong word of mouth, which doesn't look likely, this one will probably wait for video (unless I'm bored and there's nothing else to see).

I can't believe that a PG-13 rating for AVP would fuel so much argument. It's just a rating!!! Sheeez!!!

FWIW, I think this occurs before both franchises begin their storylines. If that's true, maybe the Predators decide hunting Aliens is too hard and this is why they decide to hunt humans?

My thoughts exactly. Boobies in the movie would've made some icing though

We know Big Quasimodo will!