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Originally posted by Ringo20000 By the way does anyone know the name of the first song the 5,6,7,8's are playing when Go-Go goes out looking for Uma. Only "Woo Hoo" is in the soundtrack. I'm curious to see which scenes get the most reaction from the crowds you guys saw the movie with. And no, I'm not talking about those folks that left during the middle of the movie and blabbered on the way out, I'm talking about those who stayed and had a helluva good time. I've seen K-B three times with three different crowds and here's some of the reactions I get: -A quick gasp as soon The Bride finishes her 1st line of the film -Another gasp when a certain child makes her 2nd appearance -A wince (From me) every time GoGo empties her 1st victim -A laugh from some a certain guy in the crowd when O-Ren creates a geyser out of Boss Tanaka -A laugh (From me, again) when the ball bounces off the back of GoGo's head -A "AW YEAH" from the guy in his late teens when the eyeball gets poked out How about your reactions? And are spoiler bars necessary at this time of the thread? |
Someone posted the songs that are in the movie but not on the soundtrack over at Amazon:
"Music Box Dancer" Written by: Frank Mills "Armundo" Written by: David Allen Young Performed by: David Allen Young "Truck Turner" Written by: Isaac Hayes Performed by: Isaac Hayes "Seven Notes in Black" Written by: Franco Bixie, Fabio Frizzi & Vince Tempera Performed by: Vince Tempera & Orchestra "I Lunghi Giorni Della Vendetta / The Long Day of Vengeance" Written by: Armando Trovajoli Performed by: Armando Trovajoli "Il Grande Duello / The Grand Duel, M10" Written by: Luis Bacalov Performed by: Luis Bacalov "Wound That Meals" Written by: Takeshi Kobayashi Performed by: Lily Cheu-Cheu "I Walk Like Jane Mansfield" Written by: The 5.6.7.8's Performed by: The 5.6.7.8's "I giorni dell'ira" Written by: Riziere Ortolani Performed by: Riz Ortolani "I'm Blue" Written by: Ike Turner Performed by: The 5.6.7.8's "Death Rides a Horse" Written by: Ennio Morricone Performed by: Ennio Morricone "Champions of Death" Written by: Shuzsuko Kibushi "White Lightning" Written by: Charles Bernstein Performed by: Charles Bernstein "Police Check Point" Written by: Harry Betts Performed by: Harry Betts "Nobody But Me" Performed by: The Human Beinz "Yaguyu Conspiracy" Written by: Toshiaki Tsushima Performed by: Toshiaki Tsushima Lily Chou-Chou - Kaihukusuru kizu (plays in the attic) Meiko Kaji - Urami-Bushi (plays during credits) |
I saw it on opening day with a crowd of only around 20 people and I didn't hear a single peep from anyone until this girl behind me started busting a gut when Uma spanked the kid with her sword. Maybe it was because I'd already seen Kurosawa's version of this same scene, but it struck me as really odd that the only thing this girl found funny in the whole movie was this one scene.
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Originally posted by Mondo Kane I'm curious to see which scenes get the most reaction from the crowds you guys saw the movie with. And no, I'm not talking about those folks that left during the middle of the movie and blabbered on the way out, I'm talking about those who stayed and had a helluva good time. I've seen K-B three times with three different crowds and here's some of the reactions I get: -A quick gasp as soon The Bride finishes her 1st line of the film -Another gasp when a certain child makes her 2nd appearance -A wince (From me) every time GoGo empties her 1st victim -A laugh from some a certain guy in the crowd when O-Ren creates a geyser out of Boss Tanaka -A laugh (From me, again) when the ball bounces off the back of GoGo's head -A "AW YEAH" from the guy in his late teens when the eyeball gets poked out How about your reactions? And are spoiler bars necessary at this time of the thread? Its was pretty cool, this time it was a full house in the theatre but everyone seemed to love it. Laughs and wows at the right parts, dead silence during the quiet parts, no walk outs, etc. Its the best audience I've experienced in quite some time. The only negatives I heard was at the end, when I heard alot of people who couldn't believe that the story stopped there. I guess they weren't aware of the film being "Vol. 1". :lol: BTW, after a second viewing, I still love the film. But I did notice a couple scenes this time that could have benifitted from slightly tighter editing (if this ended up being released as one film as originally planned, QT might have tightened things up a little bit). I know that Tarantino likes to let scenes run long sometimes, and I have no problem with a slower paced film (hey I liked Jackie Brown) but its just an observation. And I can't wait to see this film yet again. Its like a drug or something. :lol: |
Originally posted by sdcrym Just saw this last night. I think I spotted a giant error that is not a minor detail like the hospital scene discussed in part 1 of this thread. At some point in "The Bride" giving her narrative description of O-Ren Ishii, Lucy Lui's face is centered on screen. The narrative then begins to describe the person TO O-REN ISHII'S RIGHT as Sofie Fatale, AS THE CAMERA PANS TO THE RIGHT, meaning SOFIE FATALE IS ACTUALLY TO O-REN ISHII'S LEFT . I believe I'm correct, and next time I see it I will try to verify. Saw that last night in my 2nd viewing of the film. Only way I can explain it is that its to OUR right of Oren...but there is definitely a mis-calculation there. |
That was definitely interesting and it got better as it went along, particularly when she arrived in Okinawa.
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Just saw KB tonight. Bizarre flick, can't decide if I like it yet, at least not before another show. Heh heh, couple behind me kept sighing and/or moaning softly *especially* during the most violent parts! Guess they were either bothered by it (not surprising) or getting off on it (it really sounded like moaning especially from her) :eek:
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Went and saw it yesterday specifically just to have fun. I could care less where this film ends up historically. I did enjoy it for the camp and goofy characters. I think I enjoy Guy Ritchie's style better... "Snatch" to me was a bit cooler. Not sure why.
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ok... not a horrible movie, but certainly not a good movie.
tarantino better be glad he has his reputation, cause if this had been his first movie, it would never have seen the light of day. i didn't know that blood could shoot out of the body like it was being shot out of a fire hose... the major disappointing thing is the dialogue. it's really not very good at all. one of the best things about reservoir dogs and pulp fiction is the dialogue. good mix of humor and drama. there was nothing like that in this movie. the only times i laughed was at the ridiculousness of the blood-flow. acting was good, but there wasn't much to work with. it was pretty stoic the whole way through. and it makes it even worse that we didn't get the whole story. there is absolutely no reason this couldn't have been one movie. tarantino is so in love with himself, he thinks everything he shoots deserves to be in the movie. there were a number of useless scenes and waaaaaaaaaay too many scenes went on waaaaaaaaaaay too long. edit the damn movie! |
Okay I didnt read the first part of this thread or the above ten (10) pages, but I did see KB on Friday and liked what I saw for the reasons I saw it. I mean after a week of dealing with criminals its good to be able to simply turn one's brain off and watch senseless violence.
But I must admit I had two (2) huge problems with the movie. I mean these two (2) things seem to punish the viewer that pays attention to the movie. First off, why in the hell does QT show "The Bride" crossing off the second person's name from the list when it reveals the outcome of the "first fight"? The audience is then fully aware that "The Bride" survives chapter five. And number two, why would Budd be third on the list and in neither of the scenes where a name is crossed off the list is his name not marked off since he (Budd) is the second person "The Bride" kills? I have only seen three (3) of QT's movies, and its safe to say that while this was much better than "Jackie Brown", it in no way approaches "Pulp Fiction." |
budd is michael madsen. we don't see her anywhere near him in the first volume. chronologically, she kills liu first, then fox.
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First off, why in the hell does QT show "The Bride" crossing off the second person's name from the list when it reveals the outcome of the "first fight"? The audience is then fully aware that "The Bride" survives chapter five. And number two, why would Budd be third on the list and in neither of the scenes where a name is crossed off the list is his name not marked off since he (Budd) is the second person "The Bride" kills? I have only seen three (3) of QT's movies, and its safe to say that while this was much better than "Jackie Brown", it in no way approaches "Pulp Fiction." I'm personally a big fan of this movie, one of the most entertaining escapist action flicks I've seen. Also I thought the acting in it was quite good - mind you, physically speaking - the speech is quite stoic throughout but these people are "warriors" and have to speak hard and stern. There's a lot of eye emotion through the movie (Vernita Green vs. The Bride, the apology between O-Ren and The Bride, The Bride contemplaying during the fight scenes on what she can and is supposed to be doing, etc; ), but I guess I'm reading into it a bit much. |
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth retihsuhnt •<HR SIZE=1>First off, why in the hell does QT show "The Bride" crossing off the second person's name from the list when it reveals the outcome of the "first fight"? The audience is then fully aware that "The Bride" survives chapter five.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is the style. It's not important that you know whether or not she survives; what's important is how it happens. Many stories are about the journey, not the outcome. Besides, did you honestly think for half a second that she <i>wouldn't</i> survive the first fight? <BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Big Boy Laroux •<HR SIZE=1>i didn't know that blood could shoot out of the body like it was being shot out of a fire hose... <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Um ... the goal here wasn't to depict realistic violence, but rather a love letter to an unrealistic and extravagant genre. das |
Originally posted by retihsuhnt The audience is then fully aware that "The Bride" survives chapter five. Like I said earlier, if you didn't like this...don't see Pulp Fiction, which does this same thing only in reverse. A character is killed off, and later features in another segment that takes place earlier chronologically. |
I stand corrected on the Budd/Buck thing.
Originally posted by RichC2 Chronologically, it's the second fight, she found O-Ren Ishii first ("She was the first on my list, and easiest to find.") and got the info on the other DiVAS from Sofie Fatale ("You're going to give me information...") And like I said before the list thing was something that really just bugged me because if one pay attentions they lose the "reward." I simply listed the QT movies I had seen in the order in which I like them; PF, KB, and then JB (I wasnt trying to compare them). |
Not to mention that this is Vol 1 (of 2) of a revenage film. Do you honestly think the bride wouldn't survive the battles?
It doesn't matter that we know she survives the first battle. It's QT's editing style and it has worked well in the past, as well as in this one. |
I'm confused. What is the "reward" of which you speak? As for paying attention, there was nothing subtle about her list. If you picked up on the fact that Uma Thurman was trying to kill people, you picked up on the sequencing of her list.
das |
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Jackskeleton •<HR SIZE=1>Not to mention that this is Vol 1 (of 2) of a revenage film. Do you honestly think the bride wouldn't survive the battles? <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Groucho •<HR SIZE=1>The audience should be fully aware of this before they even walk into the theater considering that it's Volume 1.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth das Monkey •<HR SIZE=1>did you honestly think for half a second that she <i>wouldn't</i> survive the first fight?<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah ... not to mention. :D das |
wow. odd how I said the same thing you both did without reading it in the thread. :eek:
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To be fair, your post appeared while I was still typing my reply. In many ways, it's a spoiler for my post...even though it appears first, chronologically mine should be first!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Groucho •<HR SIZE=1>To be fair, your post appeared while I was still typing my reply. In many ways, it's a spoiler for my post...even though it appears first, chronologically mine should be first!!! <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hopefully no one pay attentions, else they'll lose the reward. ;) das |
I like these replies in black and white myself. but I hate how dvdtalk Forces us to not show them in their true red and green colors.
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Give it a rest.
das |
I find the black and white text to be distracting. I think they changed it to appease the MPAA. ;)
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yup, you know us americans. we can't stand the site of colored text.
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Okay, the more I think about it the more I liked this movie.
My favorite part of the film was the Okinawa sequence w/ Sonny Chiba. I have not seen hardly any of the films that QT drew upon for inspiration, but I did know who Sonny Chiba was. I thought he was fantastic and I really enjoyed his character and this whole portion of the movie. The back and forth dialogue at the bar between him, the Bride and his son was great. I didn't mind the anime story-telling of O'Ren's past (I have no opinion of anime one way or the other since I haven't seen more than a few films w/ it). It didn't take me out of the pic and I thought it was kind of interesting. I liked the Black and White sequence at the House of the Blue Leaves. I liked how he introduced it and ended it. I don't understand all of the bitching about it. It was a great fight, and I thought Uma was superb, as she was throughout the film (She had a slew of great one liners). I really enjoyed the fight scene in silhouette. I loved it when she knocked out the lights - I thought it looked great. Then the spanking had me rotfl. The ensuing fight w/ O'Ren in the snowy garden was great looking, too. I liked the fight at the beginning w/ Vivica's character, but I really hope that they add more back-story for her in the next volume. Besides the fact that it set up the merciless revenge for the movie, it just seemed some-what pointless. The soundtrack was one of the things that made this movie for me. That was the only thing about it that my dad liked - he thought it was just too over-the-top, as did my brother-in-law. He knew it was going to be an homage to the genres that QT loved, but he said it was too cheesy, and that QT's movies already had that cheesy, B-movie quality to them, but he simply went overboard w/ this one, particularly w/ the fountains of blood. My dad didn't care for it, and my brother-in-law thought it was okay - he said that until she arrived in Okinawa he really didn't care for it. I was grimacing when she was slamming the door on Buck's head. Ouch!!! Daryl Hannah as Elle Driver was quite funny. I really enjoyed her whistling in the hallway - great touch. I loved Julie Dreyfus - what a beautiful woman - hopefully we may get a little more in the next movie - like what Bill does w/ her. Something, anything would be a blessing. The lady who played GoGo did nothing for me. Her character was cool in sick and twisted way, but the actress was f'ugly. Sorry, but she was. Liked Lucy Liu's look in the flashbacks w/ the shorter hair. The best she has ever looked. I loved how they ended it w/ Bill's comments to Sofie and I can't wait for the next one. (I can't believe Uma did this just a few months after having a child - very impressive and it makes you appreciate her best role yet even more.) The only thing wrong w/ this film was that it wasn't shot in New Zealand. ;) |
ah, forgot to mention the one thing i really liked. the soundtrack. thanks for reminding me.
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Originally posted by B.A.hist The lady who played GoGo did nothing for me. Her character was cool in sick and twisted way, but the actress was f'ugly. Sorry, but she was. I'm really looking forward to Vol. 2 as well. :) |
Originally posted by DVD-ho78(DTS) Bite your tongue buddy! ;) |
Originally posted by B.A.hist Sorry, dude - but her nose is bigger than mine, and I have a big nose. :D That all said, she get's ****ing memorable roles, I've seen her in two movies, in supporting roles, and she's made a huge impact. (She had the most memorable fight from Kill Bill, as well as that "Do you want to screw me?" sequence.. in Battle Royale she pulled off perhaps the most painful murder in recent movie history.) |
Originally posted by B.A.hist ... I was grimacing when she was slamming the door on Buck's head. Ouch!!! |
Originally posted by PixyJunket My friend pointed out where I could buy the soundtrack on VINYL. Comes with a free poster too. :banana: Can you share the details? hopefully online? well, i guess I can try searching myself... |
For that matter, during the whole time she's sitting there willing her toes to move, why hasn't someone found the orderly's body and called the cops? And wouldn't the cops have then tracked down the ***** Wagon in the garage? I mean, they had *13 hours*, for crying out loud.
But of course you're not supposed to mention stuff like that because it's, y'know, an homage to the crappy plotting of exploitation movies. And calling it "an homage" makes it art! |
She could've dragged the bodies into the corner of the room and since it's the coma ward I doubt many people check on them (thus being able to let people bang away freely).
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<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth matome •<HR SIZE=1>She could've dragged the bodies into the corner of the room and since it's the coma ward I doubt many people check on them (thus being able to let people bang away freely). <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm sure Buck has things worked out where he has a large amount of autonomy in that section such that he isn't disturbed. Considering she had no real connections to the world (no one checking up on her) AND she was shot in the head AND in a coma, chances are she had the absolute lowest possible care imaginable in that situation. das |
So does anyone think the oscars will recognize this movie in any catorgory come February?
I will be seeing this for a second time this upcoming weekend....can't wait. |
Generally in a ward like that they just turn the bodies once or twice a day, and since Buck *is* the person who was supposed to be doing that, it's likely that no one would find him for hours upon hours even after his shift ended.
And who would think to check IN his car for someone? Have you seen the police investigate something? It could take them *days* to figure out that his keys are missing. DAYS. |
Originally posted by das Monkey <BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth matome •<HR SIZE=1>She could've dragged the bodies into the corner of the room and since it's the coma ward I doubt many people check on them (thus being able to let people bang away freely). <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE> I'm sure Buck has things worked out where he has a large amount of autonomy in that section such that he isn't disturbed. Considering she had no real connections to the world (no one checking up on her) AND she was shot in the head AND in a coma, chances are she had the absolute lowest possible care imaginable in that situation. das http://www.ameritech.net/users/dvdtalk/rome.gif |
These past few posts have reminded me of one of the funniest parts early on in the movie.
Spoiler:
I suppose the spoilers are unnecessary, but I enjoyed using them. I could see this one coming from a mile away, but I still couldn't help but bust out laughing. I had to contain it a few seconds until the joke actually completed to avoid sounding like an idiot in the theater. |
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth immortal_zeus •<HR SIZE=1>How the hell did she know she was in a coma for four years? :confused: <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lines on her hands. <BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth immortal_zeus •<HR SIZE=1>Also, I'm no doctor, but I would think that after being a vegetable for four years, she'd have some memory loss, but there wasn't any.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Sometimes ... sometimes not. Really depends on the patient. das Come on, guys ... gotta try harder than this. :) |
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