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Originally posted by Darren Garrison Maybe the obvious stunt double was intentional, too? After all, this was an homage to cheese. |
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What about Europe ?
does the German print of the movie have the fight scene in color ? |
I didn't notice stunt people :(
What scenes particularly and what makes you say they are (just curious) |
Originally posted by PixyJunket What part of the movie was that?! I might be getting the soundtrack on vinyl, I'm not sure if there's different tracks or not. |
Groucho,
VERY funny comment! Funniest thing I've seen on the net all day, next to that "Star Wars Kid" video!!! rofl! |
European versions have the fight in B&W. Only Asia gets color.
I thought the B&W worked rather well myself. |
Originally posted by RichC2 I didn't notice stunt people :( What scenes particularly and what makes you say they are (just curious) |
I just wanted to say that I find it very amusing (if not stupid) that people felt the Black & White scene took them out of the movie but not the anime sequence. It just bogles the mind.
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Originally posted by purplechoe I just wanted to say that I find it very amusing (if not stupid) that people felt the Black & White scene took them out of the movie but not the anime sequence. It just bogles the mind. no no no, your missing the point. the anime scene wasn't an MPAA/ disney thing, it still had red blood so thus, it was still good.. -rolleyes- I agree with you there. |
I thought the anime sequence was exquisite, my only discontent with the B&W is that I wanted to see red everywhere :-D
That said - the B&W was done well, from eye gouge to blink. P.S. - I see what is meant by the stunt woman now, ah well, I didn't pay attention to it in the movie (was loving the action too much to care perhaps) - and at least it isn't anywhere is bad as that Jet Li vs. Jet Li crap from The One. |
I'm just wondering if we will see a body in a trunk in Vol. 2 since all the rest of Tarantino's 4 films have this particular type of scene; of course he can be forgiven since Vol. 2 is really part of one movie.
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Well, we did see Sophie Fatale in the trunk, complete with customary "trunk cam" view. I think that was the obligatory reference in this film.
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There wasn't much stunt work done in the house of Blue Leaves that Mrs. Thurman didn't do herself. She did most of her own stunts throughout the film, with the exception of most of the driving.
The anime sequence *did* pull me out of the film - it was just as jarring as the B&W, but was a superiour sequence, I think. Another problem with much of the B&W sequence (which only lasted about 2 1/2 minutes or so) was that many of the cuts (excuse the pun) were with tighter lenses - it looks like the Asian version will get not only a colour version of that scene, but also some wider shots where you can see what's happening. The U.S. version looks like it was cut with a f***ing meat cleaver. |
A jarring cut to me was in the coma ward when she attacked the would-be rapist. It looked like there should have been more to that scene.
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Originally posted by jough There wasn't much stunt work done in the house of Blue Leaves that Mrs. Thurman didn't do herself. She did most of her own stunts throughout the film, with the exception of most of the driving. http://www.listener.co.nz/default,677.sm |
Originally posted by SpinnerX Oh yeah, I must have just imagined all those shots of the stunt double.:rolleyes: I also must have imagined this interview where some imaginary woman talks about spending months working as Uma's stunt double in the House of Blue Leaves fight: http://www.listener.co.nz/default,677.sm Well then, I might as well go stick my #%# in a nintendo... :p |
Saw it Thursday... saw it Friday. FK'n AMAZING!. That's all.
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Originally posted by DVD-ho78(DTS) I thought the movie was really good with only the lack of great dialogue keeping it from being great in my opinion. Funny thing: When Sofie Fatale is rolled down the hill into the street at the end some guy yelled with a laugh "she is still rolling!" It was freakin' funny the way he said it and for some reason fit the mood of the movie. |
Originally posted by Jackskeleton well there is already three dvd's coming out. i HOPE there's 3 versions, especially with a DC, but as of now, QT has said about 10 words on the DVDs. let's not jump to conclusions and assume what QT says before the movie ever opened will definitely happen. has Miramax ever released a super-duper DC version? |
Just got back from seeing this at a 12:40AM showing that had a decent amount of people in it. I have to say that it didn't sound like the people in the theater were very happy about the movie. Very talkative theater, and apparently a lot of people with foot fetishes since they kept commenting on how unattractive Uma's feet were.
I have mixed emotions about the movie. There are many scenes I like, but I would have liked some tighter editing. It felt like some scenes were drawn out way too long. I like some tension building, but some of it was excessive. Maybe I just have a shorter attention span than I previously thought. The scene with the man from Okinawa was incredibly funny. I wish there was more of him in the film. I liked the anime style used in the movie. It had a nice gritty look to it that I wouldn't mind seeing a whole movie of. The black and white didn't bother me, although you people made me notice those red dots :). I don't think Uma was that great with a sword for all her training. Everyone around her looked much more impressive, but I wasn't really expecting her to be that good so I still enjoyed the fight scenes. The cinematography was incredible, and I can't agree more with the people who enjoyed the music. It really fit the mood of the movie well. I will probably purchase this on DVD because I have a feeling I will enjoy it more upon repeat viewings, but it better damn well have a commentary. |
Originally posted by TCG unbelievable. QT says one little thing about POSSIBLE future DVDs, and everyone on the 'net takes it for fact. well if it did come from the horses mouth, why should we take it as fact.. FOR THE TIME BEING. Yes, the dvd's might change, but from what we know of.. AT THIS MOMENT is that he wants to do three dvd's. Also, that is the directors cut. Did you miss the interview with the chicago times where he states that the B&W is his perfered version? |
Originally posted by SpinnerX Oh yeah, I must have just imagined all those shots of the stunt double. I also must have imagined this interview Last November, Bell's career almost ended after a high-powered stunt involving a harness and wires attached to a hydraulic arm yanked her backwards (Thurman's character, the Bride, had taken a bullet in the chest) with too much force. She missed her safety mat, landed on her stunt co-ordinator and dislocated her wrist, badly tearing ligaments. Surgery, pins, three months in plaster, rehabilitation and much pain followed – along with the end of her active involvement in Kill Bill, although she was kept on the payroll. Here's another interview with QT and Uma that contradicts what you posted: From The NY Post, and every other interview, on the set footage, and press release from Kill Bill, not to mention accounts from those on the set (raises hand): http://www.nypost.com/living/7045.htm But the first time Thurman picked up one of the 10-pound swords, she swung it around and accidentally smacked herself in the head - nearly bursting into tears. Tarantino told her to suck it up because he was determined she do most of her own stunts. "There was no way we were going to use quick cuts or CGI [computer graphics]," he says. "Not in this movie." Thurman trained at least eight hours a day, five days a week, and not doing her favorite exercise, yoga. "They said, 'Forget it - it's weightlifting for you,'" Thurman recalls. Then came the fight training, with Hong Kong director and fight choreographer Yuen Woo-ping, of "Matrix" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" fame. He drilled Thurman in three styles of kung fu, two styles of sword fighting, plus knife throwing, knife fighting and hand-to-hand combat. "The first week or so I ended up in the bathroom crying to myself," admits Thurman, 33, who brought Roan and her first child, 5-year-old Maya, to the California training center. "I'd come home to the kids and every part of my body hurt," she says. "I was breast-feeding and sleep-deprived because I was up all night with the baby." And that was just the beginning. After the training, Thurman flew to Beijing to begin a shoot that lasted more than five months and took her from a mountaintop Chinese Buddhist monastery to a scorpion-infested ghost town in Mexico. "It was a brutal shoot," says Thurman, who jokes that the movie should be called "Kill Uma." "I get buried alive. I walk through the desert. I take on 80 men at one time. I get shot in the head. I get shot in the chest. I get shot in the leg. I get stabbed with needles filled with drugs. "The only thing Quentin didn't do was set me on fire and drown me." |
Originally posted by Jackskeleton Did you miss the interview with the chicago times where he states that the B&W is his perfered version? anyway, the fact that QT said those things about the DVDs means very little to me. i'll believe it when i see it. and this question: has miramax ever released a DC? BIG QUESTION: why did the Bride follow Sofie fatale for a while, look in the window, and then drive away? i thought she was following her to find Oren. |
Originally posted by jough How do you read this as "did all of the stunts in Kill Bill"? |
Originally posted by jough From The NY Post, and every other interview, on the set footage, and press release from Kill Bill, not to mention accounts from those on the set (raises hand): http://www.nypost.com/living/7045.htm It looks like Uma did a lot of the stunt work during the House of Blue Leaves scene, but it's also quite obvious that there are a few shots of a stunt double. In fact, the way the stunt double moved, I happened to think he was a man. Moreover, the entire silhouette scene looks like a stunt double (a man, no less). If it's not a man, I'd be extremely surprised. Furthermore, if it was actually Uma Thurman, I'd be even more surprised. By "raising your hand", you also lay claim that you were on the set of the film. So are you saying that there were no stunt doubles during either of these two scenes? Cause that's what it sounds like you're saying. If so, I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe. http://www.ameritech.net/users/dvdtalk/rome.gif |
Originally posted by TCG BIG QUESTION: why did the Bride follow Sofie fatale for a while, look in the window, and then drive away? i thought she was following her to find Oren. 2. Or, and less likely, she maybe read Sofie's lips while Sofie was on the phone (when they were stopped at the stoplight) and knew where to go because of that. http://www.ameritech.net/users/dvdtalk/rome.gif |
Originally posted by TCG uhh, lets not do this again... anyway, the fact that QT said those things about the DVDs means very little to me. i'll believe it when i see it. and this question: has miramax ever released a DC? I'm couldn't care what someone's quote from an interview means TO YOU, but when someone states the current idea's of how they plan to present the dvd, even if it's sketchy, it's still a plan that is on the table for right now so you shouldn't just throw it out the window. Might I ask what is the point of miramax releasing a "directors cut" version. All that is the majority of time is just a marketing gimmick. A directors cut implies that in the first release the director did not have final say about his film. In the case of kill bill, it looks like he did. :p |
Originally posted by Jackskeleton Well then, I might as well go stick my #%# in a nintendo... :p Yes-- yes you should. |
Oh and the thing on Sofie Fatale - I think it was coincidence that she was following her (they were going to the same place afterall, and coincidence can happen in movies remember) and they just needed a good place for her to have a small introduction sequence (memory of the cell phone ring/voice) to get it so QT didn't just drop it on you all at once.
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Just saw this last night. I think I spotted a giant error that is not a minor detail like the hospital scene discussed in part 1 of this thread.
At some point in "The Bride" giving her narrative description of O-Ren Ishii, Lucy Lui's face is centered on screen. The narrative then begins to describe the person TO O-REN ISHII'S RIGHT as Sofie Fatale, AS THE CAMERA PANS TO THE RIGHT, meaning SOFIE FATALE IS ACTUALLY TO O-REN ISHII'S LEFT . I believe I'm correct, and next time I see it I will try to verify. |
At some point in "The Bride" giving her narrative description of O-Ren Ishii, Lucy Lui's face is centered on screen. The narrative then begins to describe the person TO O-REN ISHII'S RIGHT as Sofie Fatale, AS THE CAMERA PANS TO THE RIGHT, meaning SOFIE FATALE IS ACTUALLY TO O-REN ISHII'S LEFT . I think Tarantino went a little overboard on intentional goofs in the movie, but I found most of them pretty funny. |
Am I the only one that hears bowling pins drop when GoGo falls on the table?
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It's kind of the same sound when each table breaks, I can hear the relation to bowling pins dropping it to me it just sounds like a cheap wood table being crushed from the center.
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Speaking of GoGo, didn't the same chick play the girl in <i>Battle Royale</i> that stabbed the kid in the groin who was trying to rape her as well? Might not want to meet her in real llife.
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Originally posted by immortal_zeus Hell, she knew where to find Hattori Hanzo and she had never even met him before. She knew where to find Vernita Green. |
Go-Go was in Battle Royale but I'm not sure of the part she played as I've never seen it. I think its mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread.
By the way does anyone know the name of the first song the 5,6,7,8's are playing when Go-Go goes out looking for Uma. Only "Woo Hoo" is in the soundtrack. |
Soapy?
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Originally posted by matome Speaking of GoGo, didn't the same chick play the girl in <i>Battle Royale</i> that stabbed the kid in the groin who was trying to rape her as well? Might not want to meet her in real llife. Chiaki Kuriyama is absolutely perfect for the role of GoGo, but based upon Battle Royale, maybe Quentin should have Kou Shibasaki (the girl who played the psychotic Mitsuko). Shibasaki was a stone cold killer. :D But like I said, Kuriyama is perfect as GoGo. http://www.ameritech.net/users/dvdtalk/rome.gif |
Originally posted by Groucho Soapy? http://www.ameritech.net/users/dvdtalk/rome.gif |
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