Just watched the movie. IT WAS VERY GOOD! I've read this post for some time and all of you "girls" said that movie was BLOODY and stuff. Well, IMO all kills were so so. I've seen better and bloodier kills in previous F13th movies. It was NOT scary for me....maybe because i've seen all F13th movies like 10 times (each movie). Jason actor (Ken) was good but Kane Hodder could do the same job or even better.
Freddy was great because he didnt act like clown as in previous movies. Less comedy, more blood and gore! That's what freddy needs. CG effects were great! Also, my friend bought a SOUNDTRACK for this movie and I saw like 15 NU METAL bands pm the track list. I thought that the whole movie will be filled with this "s..tty" music but I was wrong. I've heard only 2 tunes. So, movie wasnt ruined as I though it would be. Well, see it tonight peeps! It's worth it! VERY GOOD MOVIE.
When should we expect dvd? December?

It's more then ten years, more like 15 or 16 years. Lets not forget that the original idea was supposed to be the idea for Friday the 13th Part VII...

While it was a very exploitive film. The gore was heavily cut in the film,as evidenced with the obvious zoom-in/cutaways, so much of the grue/impact/aftermath is never seen. Originally the blood was flying literally,but all was hacked out to avoid an X rating.

I'm sure that sex scene in the woods was cut down as well. If you notice,the actual sex portion of the scene is over in less than 2 seconds! They show the couple fully nude,start making out,then it cuts to a up close shot of them kissing,then the guy says "I have to go wash up!". I always found this sequence hilarious since well it's like the guy shoots off alittle to quickly. Though i'm sure,as exploitive as the film is. uncut,the scene may be alittle longer.

Anyway uncut versions of this film & the entire sequels would rock the house down!!!!

Ok, here goes:

I am a fan of both series.

The freddy films because the have an interesting villian and I thoroughly enjoy the premise of a man invading your dreams.
And the series sometimes clever visuals to heighten the dream state. And not to mention the wicked sense of humor and fun.

The jason films because they are what they are, balls to the wall series of grisly murders. The films don't pretend to be something they are not. They have inventive kill scenes and in some of the films there is a reasonable ammount of actual suspense that is built.

Since we live in the day and age of "Been there done that, what's next" We get films that go so over the top to entertain, they often miss the point.

I knew there was trouble once the first murder happened (the inventive bed sequence) that the very next day all the characters pretty much have shrugged it off (Heck they are still in the house, acting as if a grisly murder didn't happen upstairs, and not like the house would be a crime scene!)
I'll forgive the movie this lapse in logic, fine.

But what was with all the over explainations and the characters trying to figure out everything...And succeeding at figuring out exactly what is going on no less!
The lame subplot of lori's dad perhaps murdering her mother. What was that?

Anyone think one of the screenwriters wrote basically himself as the character of linderman?

Since when is elm street a few miles away from crystal lake?!
Wasn't the elm street house abandonedby now? Why are people living there for god's sake. Why is crystal lake seemingly operational?

Has ronny yu ever heard of a thing called pacing? Christ.
This film is all over the place. Not an ounce of suspense, just gore, gore, gore. But not even interesting gore. Gore for the sake of gore. Even worse at times, digital gore. I felt like I needed a shower after watching this film. Which in hindsight is an interesting reaction after watching a horror film. But I truly felt dirty. Why are the jason scenes and freddy scenes almost indistinguishable? Other than freddys world being backlit by red and green gels, Both scenarios seemed too similiar.

A better movie would have been two distinct styles, and then the convergence of the two.

or my favorite J VS. F scenario:

Start the film with Jason and Freddy duking it out for reign over terror, realizing ultimately after an extended battle sequence that fighting each other is pointless (which is something the film doesn't seem to realize)
And then splitting the film into two sections...
Jason in his domain over crystal lake, freddy in his over springwood.
Then the styles coming together as both characters team up, yadda yadda yadda.
Or perhaps they could switch places.

Ultimately this is a kitchen sink type of movie. Everything was thrown in it, things that follow no logic in the continuity of either series. I could go on with it's problems, I could praise it for being disgusting and a hard "R" rated film.
It has fun in spots, but it's a mess. I need a shower.

Grade: C+

I enjoyed Jason X. Although it's more action film than horror flick,
it was more fun.

The next measuring stick when it comes to onscreen gore is Kill Bill. We'll see how they handle that one.

If they're willing to show all the in it's entirety, then I'd say that we've reached a new era of "R-rated" violence.

Oh, and I liked FVJ too. That was the coolest thing I've seen all year!

Saw this on Saturday night, everyone who has asked me about it has gotten this reply from me...


GO SEE IT

Cant wait for the DVD.

I love this mentality: You're not a fan unless you see every single thing that character is in!

I am a Freddy fan. Guess what, I've only seen A Nightmare On Elm St., Dream Warriors, A New Nightmare, and Freddy vs. Jason.

OH NO! I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm St 2, 4, 5, or 6 (okay, I've seen most of 6 on TV)! I must not be a TRUE Freddy fan! Give me a break. That's like saying, "You're not a true Frank Zappa fan unless you own all of the albums he has released (which is probably over 70 and in so many different styles and genres that even if you like one, there's no way you'd know which other ones you might like)."

That's just my long winded way of saying you can be a fan of something and still be critical of something associated with it.

Indeed, you're right....From IMDB.COM

Also a slight bit of trivia, in the original 'Nightmare on Elm Street', you can see Jason's hockey mask hangin' over Johnny Depp's infamous bed.

Some people just can't face the fact that they're a casual "fan," which certainly doesn't fit into the proper definition of a real fan which also have sublayers of types of fans within.

I know.

Can't you be a fan of a movie series, but realize that not all the movies are perfect?

I'm a Freddy fan, but only like A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 3, and WES CRAVEN'S NEW NIGHTMARE.

That's it for me. The series ended there, in my book.

Goofy question but....

In the Jason flashback sequences, he's depicted with a mask. But he didn't have a mask until 3. Was this a continuity error or because most people remember him with the mask, it was best to show him with one?

I think it was just a matter of most people only knowing Jason with a hockey mask. Hell, a lot of people don't realize he wasn't even the original killer ...-shrugs-

I didn't think of that. Of course, I'm hung up on that damn tuft of hair that New Line has insisted sticking on to "their" Jason's head. Picky, I know. But I can't seem to not be distracted by it. I'm a goob.

Finally, a voice of reason. I'd say that a person who is a hardcore fan has watched the movies several times, collects all the collectibles, tries to follow England around, etc..

A more casual fan likes a couple films.

No biggie.

Quote:

Originally posted by Corvin
A more casual fan likes a couple films.

Quote:

Originally posted by jeffkjoe
Can't you be a fan of a movie series, but realize that not all the movies are perfect?

Heck yes **coughStarWarscough**.

mdc3000 wasn't berating jeffkjoe because he was a fan and didn't like the flick, but because he said he was a fan but had "no intentions of seeing it". That's different than saying "I'm a fan, but I didn't care for it".

Except that the film has been detailed kill for kill in this thread.

Let's face it, you can still be a fan and not go see it. The specifics might be different, but the sentiment is the same, and he shouldn't be berated for it.

I guess the point is, I wasn't going to watch this film, based on the previews, because the Freddy character seems to have been dumbed down considerably.

In other words, he seems to be the watered-down Freddy of Nightmares 4, 5, and 6, rather than the hard-core, sadistic Freddy of 1, 3, and 7.

I COULD be wrong, and probably should give this a shot, but for me, I can wait.


And thanks, DonnachaOne, for the kill-by-kill summary!

Ok folks, can I semi-hijack this thread for a little help? With NOES, I feel I'm on pretty good footing as far as which are the good ones, and which ones blow; but what's the consensus on the F13th movies? It's been so long since I've watched one, that I only really remember Jason Takes Manhattan, which blew chunks. So can you folk help me out with which ones are worth the time and which ones are good to avoid? All help appreciated.

Based on other more knowledgeable Freddy fans, which I am not one of them, they say Freddy is more like the old school evil Freddy of 1,3,7. The whole movie is about Freddy getting back on "earth." So he doesn't really have time to clown around. In fact, he's pissed mad cause of Jason.

I always liked parts 1, 3, 4, and 6.

Not only has the 'R' rating come back but so have ripoff movies...

House of 1000 Corpses...ripoff of Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Wrong Turn...ripoff of Hills Have Eyes

And Julie Walker...

I have the uncut version of F13 and it is the same as the R1 DVD version, but is different than the video copy

When Lori enters Camp Crystal Lake in the Dreamworld, did anyone else notice that while the kids taunt Jason towards the dock, a burlap bag is placed over his head and then pulled off, echoing Friday the 13th Part II?

I loved that..

No, bacons death is a bit longer, and with the mothers death at the end, we see blood shooting out of her, and also many of the kills are longer on the uncut version. on the cut version, we see them for a split second, but not the full thing