why does everybody here hate titanic?
11-18-02 | 05:40 PM
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i got the full frame vhs tape version. i have seen it in widecreen but this is when cinemax decided to put it in widescreen for one night only. ill wait until the se comes out.
11-18-02 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
I thought the film was great, until I saw that it was making big money and getting critical acclaim. Since it is very important to me to appear "above the masses" on internet message boards, I learned to hate it instead.
I thought the film was great, until I saw that it was making big money and getting critical acclaim. Since it is very important to me to appear "above the masses" on internet message boards, I learned to hate it instead.
11-18-02 | 09:45 PM
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From: New Jersey, where the state motto should be Leave No Tree Standing
I'm not ashamed to admit I like Titanic. And I also admit that the dialogue can be horrendous at times. I had more of a problem with Billy Zane's sneering overacting than anything Leo did.
I'm also okay with it having won Best Picture. While I enjoyed L.A. Confidential very much,
This took me out of the film's world and reminded me I was watching a film, whereas with Titanic, the attention to detail left me immersed in the world of the film.
I'm also okay with it having won Best Picture. While I enjoyed L.A. Confidential very much,
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11-18-02 | 10:42 PM
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A period film with absolutely zero credibility, akin to Road to Perdition.
Cameron has lost all ability to direct actors. The script was atrocious.
Also the decision to frame the story with the modern bookends was a fundamental mistake because it excuses everything that happens: "the (miraculously) sweet old lady survived."
Cameron has lost all ability to direct actors. The script was atrocious.
Also the decision to frame the story with the modern bookends was a fundamental mistake because it excuses everything that happens: "the (miraculously) sweet old lady survived."
11-18-02 | 10:45 PM
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I didn't hate it, but I'm annoyed at the lost opportunity. Cameron gave us 2+ hours of sappy, schmaltzy love story - fictional love story - when there was so much more human drama to be told.
The Californian, only 20 miles away from Titanic while she sank. The guy who (allegedly) dressed like a woman to secure a seat on the lifeboat. The coal fire that was raging below decks. Sir Cosmo Duff Gordon, who used his wealth to put a 60+ capacity lifeboat to sea with only 5 passengers and 7 crew aboard.
Captain Smith, the musicians, the White Star PR guy - there are 2,500 stores a hundred times more interesting that what Cameron put together. Instead we get a warmed over Romeo and Juliet love story.
Given all that, I'll still probably get the SE if it ever comes out. The story may be sub-standard, but the set and art direction is dead on. In regards to the historical aspect, Jim kicked some royal bootie. In other matters, however, the movie was lacking.
The Californian, only 20 miles away from Titanic while she sank. The guy who (allegedly) dressed like a woman to secure a seat on the lifeboat. The coal fire that was raging below decks. Sir Cosmo Duff Gordon, who used his wealth to put a 60+ capacity lifeboat to sea with only 5 passengers and 7 crew aboard.
Captain Smith, the musicians, the White Star PR guy - there are 2,500 stores a hundred times more interesting that what Cameron put together. Instead we get a warmed over Romeo and Juliet love story.
Given all that, I'll still probably get the SE if it ever comes out. The story may be sub-standard, but the set and art direction is dead on. In regards to the historical aspect, Jim kicked some royal bootie. In other matters, however, the movie was lacking.
11-18-02 | 11:41 PM
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My biggest problem was how much I disliked Rose. Sure, I've seen films with protagonists that I didn't like and I still enjoyed the film, but Titanic didn't work for me without caring about the characters more.
Why did I hate Rose? Let me count the ways . . .
Why did I hate Rose? Let me count the ways . . .
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God, the sin of having bad artistic judgement . . .
11-19-02 | 12:04 AM
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I love Titanic. I saw it on opening night, and it was the only time I left the theater thinking "that's one of the greatest films I've ever seen." While I no longer hold it in such high regards anymore, I still think it's among the best films. Unfortunately it loses something when shown on the small screen. It's a huge film and must be seen in the theater to fully appreciate its scale IMO.
Now give me a good SE!
Now give me a good SE!
11-19-02 | 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by dgeralsh
Yeah, and he can sit next to Britney Spears.
Yeah, and he can sit next to Britney Spears.
As for Titanic, I liked it but didn't by any stretch love it.
One thing that continues to frustrate me as a moviegoer is the amount of money spent creating these huge FX-laden blockbusters with so little attention spent towards creating a script that is worth a damn. While Titanic certainly did not sink (pun intended) to the level of something like Pearl Harbor, it certainly did not soar to the heights that it should have soared. The film was riddled with lackluster performaces and the script...not that great. Usually one has to rent a Van Damme film to find a character as one-dimensional as the one Billy Zane played in this film.
Gloria Stuart even being nominated for an acting Oscar was insulting beyond belief.
11-19-02 | 11:36 AM
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I loved the mechanics of it. I thought the love story got a little tiresome, I was more interested in the historical aspect of the sinking. I liked the movie but it got a little too whiney for me during the sinking.
Now when I watch it, opening sequence, jump to nude scene, watch sinking. Takes a little over an hour.
Now when I watch it, opening sequence, jump to nude scene, watch sinking. Takes a little over an hour.
11-19-02 | 01:11 PM
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I'm not a Leo fan, and the storyline just isn't my type of movie. If you're looking for a factual answer, I don't have one. I'm also not a big fan of Gladiator for similar reasons.
11-19-02 | 01:38 PM
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...not enough nude Kate Winslet...?
...not enough nude Kate Winslet...?
Aaaaaaaah those nice nipples. They're the stuff that dreams are made of!
[drool]Mmmmmmmmh Kate Winslet[/drool]
Otherwise, this movie was terribly boring and had its own brand of "I-need-a-kind-of-stupid-audience-to-remain-believable" feeling that annoyed me a lot.
11-19-02 | 01:38 PM
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everyone always complains about the love story. please tell me how you would have made the movie to NOT be just another documentary??? the young couple just served as a metaphor for the severe loss that many felt...husbands having to watch their family leave for safety screaming because they can't go with them and vice versa.
btw, the majority of the people who believe the acting is bad are those who can't stand dicaprio. (also those who insist on going against the popular reaction to get shocking response) the acting wasn't horrible, and although it might not have been brilliant, it did have solid performances.
btw, the majority of the people who believe the acting is bad are those who can't stand dicaprio. (also those who insist on going against the popular reaction to get shocking response) the acting wasn't horrible, and although it might not have been brilliant, it did have solid performances.
11-19-02 | 01:47 PM
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the only acting that really got on my nerves was Danny Nucci's, his cliched Italian accent was grating and ultra corny. (I just-a wanted to-a punch-a him-a in the face-a)
11-19-02 | 02:06 PM
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From: In a sewer.
Originally posted by wendersfan
If Titanic had "bombed" then my father-in-law would never had given the video to my wife as a gift, we would never have watched it, and I would never have had the opportunity to dislike it. BTW, my wife, who is in no way a film snob, also hated Titanic, so, while it's convenient to label anyone who dislikes popular movies as a "film snob", it's at best inaccurate, and at worst, insulting.
If Titanic had "bombed" then my father-in-law would never had given the video to my wife as a gift, we would never have watched it, and I would never have had the opportunity to dislike it. BTW, my wife, who is in no way a film snob, also hated Titanic, so, while it's convenient to label anyone who dislikes popular movies as a "film snob", it's at best inaccurate, and at worst, insulting.
Nice try though.
11-19-02 | 02:07 PM
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alright this has been bugging me (all get out your dvds and go to the drawing scene), in the full frame version, we can see roses bare butt, but i swear that when i saw it in the theaters and on cinemax widescreen, i didnt see it. now was this shot super 35 where we see more on the bottem than needed. (i might have influenced a few to get the vhs version) one thing that bugged me was the "you jump, i jump" bit . it was a little over done. im doing part 2 tonight.