Just saw Mulholland Drive
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Originally posted by Suprmallet
As best as I can tell, the detectives bag a comb, which just alerts them that a woman was in the limo, and so they assume someone else was involved and is now missing.
As best as I can tell, the detectives bag a comb, which just alerts them that a woman was in the limo, and so they assume someone else was involved and is now missing.
the object I remember was definitely long and the same color blue as the key and the box.......
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Originally posted by garmonbozia
makes sense......
the object I remember was definitely long and the same color blue as the key and the box.......
makes sense......
the object I remember was definitely long and the same color blue as the key and the box.......
So am I the only one who thought that the dirty man
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This quote below is from Ebert's review. What part is he referring to?????
"One of the scenes also contains the funniest example of pure logic in the history of sex scenes. "
Also, the film reminded me more of Memento than it did Eyes Wide Shut
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Originally posted by new2theplace
This quote below is from Ebert's review. What part is he referring to?????
"One of the scenes also contains the funniest example of pure logic in the history of sex scenes. "
Also, the film reminded me more of Memento than it did Eyes Wide Shut
This quote below is from Ebert's review. What part is he referring to?????
"One of the scenes also contains the funniest example of pure logic in the history of sex scenes. "
Also, the film reminded me more of Memento than it did Eyes Wide Shut
Oh and I think Ebert is refering to when Betty says something like "No, but I want to try it with you," which based on her actions at the time seems like a rather obvious statement.
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Originally posted by vasb:
Oh and I think Ebert is refering to when Betty says something like "No, but I want to try it with you," which based on her actions at the time seems like a rather obvious statement.
My take on it is that he is referring to Camilla's line after Betty says "Have you ever done this before?", which is "I don't know." Given Camilla's amnesia, it makes the odd comment quite humorous...
Oh and I think Ebert is refering to when Betty says something like "No, but I want to try it with you," which based on her actions at the time seems like a rather obvious statement.
My take on it is that he is referring to Camilla's line after Betty says "Have you ever done this before?", which is "I don't know." Given Camilla's amnesia, it makes the odd comment quite humorous...
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Originally posted by vasb:
Oh and I think Ebert is refering to when Betty says something like "No, but I want to try it with you," which based on her actions at the time seems like a rather obvious statement.
My take on it is that he is referring to Camilla's line after Betty says "Have you ever done this before?", which is "I don't know." Given Camilla's amnesia, it makes the odd comment quite humorous...
Originally posted by vasb:
Oh and I think Ebert is refering to when Betty says something like "No, but I want to try it with you," which based on her actions at the time seems like a rather obvious statement.
My take on it is that he is referring to Camilla's line after Betty says "Have you ever done this before?", which is "I don't know." Given Camilla's amnesia, it makes the odd comment quite humorous...
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
My take on it is that he is referring to Camilla's line after Betty says "Have you ever done this before?", which is "I don't know." Given Camilla's amnesia, it makes the odd comment quite humorous...
My take on it is that he is referring to Camilla's line after Betty says "Have you ever done this before?", which is "I don't know." Given Camilla's amnesia, it makes the odd comment quite humorous...
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Saw it. If that film is a true representation of Hollywood and how it works, I'm going to become a film professor and play it safe!
I thought this was Lynch's best film since Blue Velvet. IMO, watching this film without seeing any other Lynch film would be like watching Fire Walk With Me without viewing any Twin Peaks episodes. It would be strange film either way, but you get better understanding with a good background. Now, onto the film:
Now for the love scene: WOW!!!! How old is Laura Harring? I read on imdb that she won a teen USA in 1985, so she must be in her thirties I guess, but her body is outstanding! Also, this might sound nuts, but the lesbian scene in the bed came across to me as one of the most sincere in film history; you honestly thought these characters had deep feelings for one another. Something sorely lacking in many traditional sex scenes. Basically, two women conveyed emotion two people of the opposite sex have failed to do for many years in love scenes.
Oh well, I've rambled and talked too much. Silencio!
I thought this was Lynch's best film since Blue Velvet. IMO, watching this film without seeing any other Lynch film would be like watching Fire Walk With Me without viewing any Twin Peaks episodes. It would be strange film either way, but you get better understanding with a good background. Now, onto the film:
Spoiler:
Now for the love scene: WOW!!!! How old is Laura Harring? I read on imdb that she won a teen USA in 1985, so she must be in her thirties I guess, but her body is outstanding! Also, this might sound nuts, but the lesbian scene in the bed came across to me as one of the most sincere in film history; you honestly thought these characters had deep feelings for one another. Something sorely lacking in many traditional sex scenes. Basically, two women conveyed emotion two people of the opposite sex have failed to do for many years in love scenes.
Oh well, I've rambled and talked too much. Silencio!
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Okay, the silencio can now end. The questions from above still stand and I would like some possible answers if you have the time.
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Long time a Lynch fanatic, I was actually disappointed.
Sure, it had everything I love about Lynch, the abstract, non-normal narrative storytelling, the mystery, and so forth, but it felt a unfinished I guess. What I mean, is the base kind of plot point, the minor/major (depending on your view) theme of Lost Highway or Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (the two films most similar to Mulholland) I could see more easily. Twin Peaks has the dark side of small town life, the evil in the ordinary and such. Lost Highway the nature of identity and conscience/guilt. I guess Mulholland was intended to be some sort of comment, or spawned from, the while stardom-Hollywood thing, but I think it was a little unrealized, like he didn’t get to fine tune that surreal insturment.
I like it, but he missed me. I can appreciate the imagination and vision, but it just didn’t sink into me like I’m used to Lynch doing. I guess all I could see were the frayed ends of what he would have addressed better, in greater detial, in a series.
Sure, it had everything I love about Lynch, the abstract, non-normal narrative storytelling, the mystery, and so forth, but it felt a unfinished I guess. What I mean, is the base kind of plot point, the minor/major (depending on your view) theme of Lost Highway or Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (the two films most similar to Mulholland) I could see more easily. Twin Peaks has the dark side of small town life, the evil in the ordinary and such. Lost Highway the nature of identity and conscience/guilt. I guess Mulholland was intended to be some sort of comment, or spawned from, the while stardom-Hollywood thing, but I think it was a little unrealized, like he didn’t get to fine tune that surreal insturment.
I like it, but he missed me. I can appreciate the imagination and vision, but it just didn’t sink into me like I’m used to Lynch doing. I guess all I could see were the frayed ends of what he would have addressed better, in greater detial, in a series.
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i saw it today finally....i loved it. i plan on being conned again and again by this one.
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just saw it today, and it was my first Lynch film.
i'd put this somewhere in my favorite 5 of the year. there's just so much to think about; the salon.com article sure helped to clear things up a bit.
now i have to check out some more Lynch works.

i'd put this somewhere in my favorite 5 of the year. there's just so much to think about; the salon.com article sure helped to clear things up a bit.
now i have to check out some more Lynch works.

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Caught it this weekend. Not much to add to the above except to say that I enjoyed MD considerably. And as time passes, I find that I think about it often and enjoy the movie even more than when the lights came up in the theater. Certainly among Lynch's best work.
Edited to add that Naomi Watts' performance was amazing. I’m a bit surprised at the lack of press she's getting. But perhaps the overall weirdness of the movie just trumps everything else.
Edited to add that Naomi Watts' performance was amazing. I’m a bit surprised at the lack of press she's getting. But perhaps the overall weirdness of the movie just trumps everything else.
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Finally saw it today, after a couple of false-starts. Haven't read the Salon article yet, but thought I would comment before doing that.
This is definately the best Lynch film (I also loved Blue Velvet) that I have seen yet (always caught Lost Highway on TV in the middle and stopped - still waiting for a DVD).
The movie, to me encapsulated LA/Hollywood perfectly - giving you what you want to see, but then it shows you the underbelly.
Someone said they felt 'conned' by the movie and I can only think that this was because of the dream part - we were presented with unreality within the context of the movie, but when you take it out of context, what is it? There's no 'real' in Hollywood - its film, an illusion - "All a recording" - isn't that what the guy in the club says? Dreams define us as much as anything and it was absolute brilliance to present us with the dream, the illusion before showing us 'reality.' The 'dream' also gives a legitimate excuse for Lynch to give us his weird visions.
To me, Mulholland Drive represents an answer for anyone who's seriously asked him/herself - "What is a movie?" A representation of a story, a reflection of life, a dream of how life should be, a presentation of events catering to the audience....
The last hour or so of the movie was amazing - showing all the influences to the dream. The Camille of the dream turned out to be an object of jealousy - probably the last straw for Diane to take her revenge. Everyone in the dream had some aspect of Diane's personality. Diane saw herself as Rita, Camille, the guy in the restaurant who realizes his dreams are coming true, even the girl the assassin questions about Rita.
Re: the influences - goes without saying that Lynch referenced his other movies in this one - I esp. remember the blue curtain in one of the last scenes. Kubrick's EWS has been mentioned and also a healthy dose of Hitchcock. Rita's transformation into a blonde was very evocative of Vertigo at the same time reflecting Diane's personality as I said earlier.
Just yesterday I saw 'Amores Perros' and some of the coincidences are freaky - both films start with a car crash and have the 'bum' character.
So, the things I'll be eagerly looking for on the second go around - did we see that guy in the restaurant again? If the bum in the back of the restaurant represents Hollywood itself - do the old couple represent the public, encouraging the 'dreamers', clamouring for them and ultimately destroying Diane. I also wanted to confirm that Diane shot herself at the end - I thought thats what I saw, but one of the earlier posts raised a doubt.
Ok, I've rambled enough - can't wait to see it again.
This is definately the best Lynch film (I also loved Blue Velvet) that I have seen yet (always caught Lost Highway on TV in the middle and stopped - still waiting for a DVD).
The movie, to me encapsulated LA/Hollywood perfectly - giving you what you want to see, but then it shows you the underbelly.
Someone said they felt 'conned' by the movie and I can only think that this was because of the dream part - we were presented with unreality within the context of the movie, but when you take it out of context, what is it? There's no 'real' in Hollywood - its film, an illusion - "All a recording" - isn't that what the guy in the club says? Dreams define us as much as anything and it was absolute brilliance to present us with the dream, the illusion before showing us 'reality.' The 'dream' also gives a legitimate excuse for Lynch to give us his weird visions.
To me, Mulholland Drive represents an answer for anyone who's seriously asked him/herself - "What is a movie?" A representation of a story, a reflection of life, a dream of how life should be, a presentation of events catering to the audience....
The last hour or so of the movie was amazing - showing all the influences to the dream. The Camille of the dream turned out to be an object of jealousy - probably the last straw for Diane to take her revenge. Everyone in the dream had some aspect of Diane's personality. Diane saw herself as Rita, Camille, the guy in the restaurant who realizes his dreams are coming true, even the girl the assassin questions about Rita.
Re: the influences - goes without saying that Lynch referenced his other movies in this one - I esp. remember the blue curtain in one of the last scenes. Kubrick's EWS has been mentioned and also a healthy dose of Hitchcock. Rita's transformation into a blonde was very evocative of Vertigo at the same time reflecting Diane's personality as I said earlier.
Just yesterday I saw 'Amores Perros' and some of the coincidences are freaky - both films start with a car crash and have the 'bum' character.
So, the things I'll be eagerly looking for on the second go around - did we see that guy in the restaurant again? If the bum in the back of the restaurant represents Hollywood itself - do the old couple represent the public, encouraging the 'dreamers', clamouring for them and ultimately destroying Diane. I also wanted to confirm that Diane shot herself at the end - I thought thats what I saw, but one of the earlier posts raised a doubt.
Ok, I've rambled enough - can't wait to see it again.
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Will Lynch give us a good DVD or one with no chapter stops that is bare bones?
Oh well, Silencio!
Oh well, Silencio!
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From the offerings of 2001, this was one of the few films that I came out of the theater and looked forward to buying the DVD for it.
This film is just plain interesting to watch as it unfolds. I would have wished reviewers would not have mentioned what they did in their synopsis. I am glad I went in with absolutely no knowledge of the contents of this film because I think it's best seen "cold", so I won't touch upon any of the narrative points, and just say, if you enjoy Lynch films, you won't be disappointed, and I would not be surprised if you find this film quietly riveting.
If you pay attention, you'll enjoy the surrealism of the 1st 2 acts, and by the time you get to the 3rd act, it all falls into place like tumblers in a lock, while still remaining with a vestige of mystery intact.
I did enjoy the performances by Naomi Watts and Laura Harring. You simply can't avert your eyes when they are on the screen.
I give it a grade of A or 4 stars.
This film is just plain interesting to watch as it unfolds. I would have wished reviewers would not have mentioned what they did in their synopsis. I am glad I went in with absolutely no knowledge of the contents of this film because I think it's best seen "cold", so I won't touch upon any of the narrative points, and just say, if you enjoy Lynch films, you won't be disappointed, and I would not be surprised if you find this film quietly riveting.
If you pay attention, you'll enjoy the surrealism of the 1st 2 acts, and by the time you get to the 3rd act, it all falls into place like tumblers in a lock, while still remaining with a vestige of mystery intact.
I did enjoy the performances by Naomi Watts and Laura Harring. You simply can't avert your eyes when they are on the screen.
I give it a grade of A or 4 stars.
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Originally posted by Patman
Now for some spoilerized discussion points/questions:
Now for some spoilerized discussion points/questions:
Spoiler:
I myself went and saw it a second time to experience this great film again. Needless to say, its a totally different experience alltogether the second time.
Spoiler:
I'm anxiously awaiting a DVD release. I also wonder if this will get any Oscar noms, considering Lynch co-won the director award at Cannes. The two leads definately deserve recognition.
Patman, some thoughts on your points/questions:
Spoiler:
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I just loved this film. I have only seen Blue Velvet and some of Twin Peaks but now I am definetly going to check out as much Lynch as I can.
BTW...
Did anyone think that the item found by the detectives was the plastic key to the box?
BTW...
Did anyone think that the item found by the detectives was the plastic key to the box?
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Originally posted by zooroaster
BTW...
Did anyone think that the item found by the detectives was the plastic key to the box?
BTW...
Did anyone think that the item found by the detectives was the plastic key to the box?
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Having had time to reflect in the past three weeks,
Another possibility,
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Another possibility,
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