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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14419544)
Not the appropriate thread to ask about this. Just Google his name.
And if somebody brought up some gossip about an actor and how it affects a physical release, then this is the appropriate thread (for a brief discussion, at least). |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by milo bloom
(Post 14419799)
If you haven't noticed, Google is trash lately.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by BackStJoe
(Post 14419541)
if you have MAX check out House of Hammer…it explains everything.
UHD ordered.
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14419544)
Not the appropriate thread to ask about this. Just Google his name.
Originally Posted by milo bloom
(Post 14419799)
And if somebody brought up some gossip about an actor and how it affects a physical release, then this is the appropriate thread (for a brief discussion, at least).
If you want to know more, just do a search for ARMIE HAMMER CANNIBALISM on your favorite search engine. |
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Wow, what a piece of work.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 14420725)
The short version: Armie Hammer might be a cannibal.
If you want to know more, just do a search for ARMIE HAMMER CANNIBALISM on your favorite search engine. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Anyone have this box set and can tell me if good or not? Thanks.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...726a7ad87.jpeg |
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I was really hoping that was the original Clash Of The Titans (1981) with a 4K release at first glance. :(
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Hm, will Silence of the Lambs have the color space issues in the first reel corrected?
Edit: Apparently, the answer is yes |
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Before seeing that tweet I knew there was no way Arrow a.) wasn't aware of the problem, and b.) wouldn't make sure it's fixed. Kino they are not.
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It's not noted on the pic but the listing on the Arrow website of The Mexico Trilogy says its a 4k/blu-ray combo.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
(Post 14432356)
It's not noted on the pic but the listing on the Arrow website of The Mexico Trilogy says its a 4k/blu-ray combo.
El Mariachi and Once Upon a Time in Mexico are both BD's and Desperado is a 4K disc. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 14432373)
El Mariachi and Once Upon a Time in Mexico are both BD's and Desperado is a 4K disc.
Sounds like a rip-off set and the 4k is not even in Atmos. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14365146)
https://www.amazon.com/Shawscope-Vol...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
The Shawscope Volume 2 set is now down to $79.99. That's the lowest price it's been. I paid $89.45 in September. If you were holding out, I would jump at this. This is a quality set. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by nikkijo
(Post 14432447)
I bought mine last year and after watching the movies sold it right away. The quality is good, but the movies are not good.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by nikkijo
(Post 14432447)
I bought mine last year and after watching the movies sold it right away. The quality is good, but the movies are not good.
But, I get that some of the them like Phantom said, which feature comedy, are tough watches. My Father grew up on martial arts movies from Shaw Brothers and Golden Harvest, but he absolutely hates martial arts comedies. I'm curious why you responded to a post from 6 months ago. It's a dated post now. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by nikkijo
(Post 14432445)
I was ready to order and then decided to read the release details and read 3 times because I could not believe that they are selling a trilogy with only one movie is in 4k and other two are blu-ray.
Sounds like a rip-off set and the 4k is not even in Atmos. El Mariachi is basically a student film. It was shot on 16mm with a budget of $8,000 (yes, thousand). Even by 16mm standards, the photography is extremely soft, flat, and grainy. It was shot on the cheapest film stocks Rodriguez could scrape together from odds and odds left over from other productions. There's nothing approaching 4K detail on the negative, nor anything that would benefit from HDR. A 4K HDR transfer would only serve to over-emphasize the grain even worse than it already looks on Blu-ray. Meanwhile, Once Upon a Time in Mexico was shot in 1080p HDCAM with early digital cameras. It looked like garbage in the theater, with very smeary, video-ish photography. I'm not sure if the cameras were capable of HDR or Wide Color Gamut, either. Desperado is the only of the three movies shot on 35mm, and is by far the best-looking of them. As for Atmos, I'd personally rather have the original super-charged 5.1 mix than some Atmos remix that will invariably water down the bass, because sound mixers today are so timid with LFE. It's not like the movie has any action going on overhead, anyway. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
(Post 14432482)
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin and The Kid With the Golden Arm are martial arts classics in that set. A couple of the comedies aren't great but it's essential for any veteran Shaw Brothers viewer.
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14432485)
I'm curious why you responded to a post from 6 months ago. It's a dated post now.
Totally agree with the thoughts shared above about the Shaw films, too, and I’d add that they’re all important as a body of work from one studio— even the full-on comedies (not just the martial arts ones) and all the other genres that, as I’ve expected from the start of these reissues, the western boutiques have steadfastly avoided, even as one-offs. It would be cool if a label like, say, Radiance or Kani took a chance and released even a single musical, or 60’s spy film, or 70’s crime thriller, just so people in the west could finally see that the studio, and Hong Kong, was about so much more than the ‘chop-socky’ martial arts films most commonly associated with that era, and the city, thanks to distributors both there and over here. Oh well, I can dream. :) |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14432639)
It would be cool if a label like, say, Radiance or Kani took a chance and released even a single musical, or 60’s spy film, or 70’s crime thriller, just so people in the west could finally see that the studio, and Hong Kong, was about so much more than the ‘chop-socky’ martial arts films most commonly associated with that era, and the city, thanks to distributors both there and over here. Oh well, I can dream. :)
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14432825)
I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that ShawScope vols. 3 and 4 would branch out more, but I can’t quickly find that quote from James Flower (or whoever it was).
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
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Here’s the quote I was thinking of, although I misremembered elements of it for sure.
I wasn't involved with picking the titles for Volumes 1 & 2 but have been more involved with the new package we're acquiring for Volumes 3 & 4, which does indeed veer away from kung fu a lot more. I picked the name Shawscope for our boxsets specifically so we could go into new territory in the future, and that is indeed the strategy: hopefully by now we've hooked enough people with the kung fu sets that will now be willing to go on a journey into other kinds of Shaws films with us. Indeed, working on the extras gave me a whole other list of films I'm desperately keen to see! That said, I doubt you'll see us doing the operas, melodramas and comedies anytime soon - they just aren't commercially viable at the scale we're working to with the new restorations and collectable packaging, which means genre films inevitably become the key focus. (Indeed, I'm not convinced a huangmei diao set would fly off the shelves even with just the existing Celestial masters, basic packaging and minimal extras to keep production costs down.) I'm sure we'll release more Shaws kung fu films in the future too, but we're happy to go on a bit of a tangent for now - especially as we have plenty of Golden Harvest films from Fortune Star lined up too. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14432825)
I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that ShawScope vols. 3 and 4 would branch out more, but I can’t quickly find that quote from James Flower (or whoever it was).
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
(Post 14432482)
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin and The Kid With the Golden Arm are martial arts classics in that set. A couple of the comedies aren't great but it's essential for any veteran Shaw Brothers viewer.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14432485)
You're entitled to your opinion and movies are subjective. But, the Shaw Brothers film library is for the most part considered classic martial arts cinema. I understand you said you didn't like the movies, but the set also features hours and hours of educational bonus material on HK cinema. Most of which aren't movie specific.
But, I get that some of the them like Phantom said, which feature comedy, are tough watches. My Father grew up on martial arts movies from Shaw Brothers and Golden Harvest, but he absolutely hates martial arts comedies. I'm curious why you responded to a post from 6 months ago. It's a dated post now. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14432825)
I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that ShawScope vols. 3 and 4 would branch out more, but I can’t quickly find that quote from James Flower (or whoever it was).
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
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Good to know something’s coming. This ‘teaser’ stuff is so tiresome (yay social media) but I suppose that green gives off a certain horror vibe.
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Unobstructed View posted the box and titles for ShawScope vol. 3. Spoilering in case anyone still wants to be surprised tomorrow:
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I'm not going to get it right away. I waited until Volume 2 dropped to $89 before I finally pulled the trigger and it dropped to an all-time low of $79.99 last December.
I'm sure most of you who own the 1st 2 volumes haven't even watched or gone through the entire sets yet. |
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I'm not sure this is really branching out that far from the titles Arrow has already released (like they've hinted at), but this is an awesome set. I think this crosses off just about every title I had left on my "must have" SB list. Not that there aren't dozens (hundreds?) of great choices left, but everything we get after this is mostly gravy to me.
Now if only I could get my hands on the reality stone and fix it so that Arrow were the ones to have released the Ti Lung/David Chiang collection instead of Shout... |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14434626)
I'm sure most of you who own the 1st 2 volumes haven't even watched or gone through the entire sets yet.
Originally Posted by rocket1312
(Post 14434643)
I'm not sure this is really branching out that far from the titles Arrow has already released (like they've hinted at), but this is an awesome set. I think this crosses off just about every title I had left on my "must have" SB list. Not that there aren't dozens (hundreds?) of great choices left, but everything we get after this is mostly gravy to me.
Now if only I could get my hands on the reality stone and fix it so that Arrow were the ones to have released the Ti Lung/David Chiang collection instead of Shout... Agreed that this wuxia box does present an ideal cross-section of titles (also agreed that wuxia doesn’t branch that far from their other martial arts titles), but there are easily another batch or two that could easily fill a couple more sets, though personally I think they should just do a horror set for Volume 4 and maybe call it a day. Of course, then they’ll announce a Volume 5 and 6! :lol: |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14434626)
I'm sure most of you who own the 1st 2 volumes haven't even watched or gone through the entire sets yet.
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I’m assuming this might be tied to the release of Volume 3, but Arrow just dropped SHAWSCOPE VOL. 2 to $72.50, which seems like a new low for those who’ve been on the fence. This doesn’t seem to be part of a bigger sale, so I don’t know how long it’s active. I mentioned previously in this thread that wishlisting items at Arrow generates price-drop notifications via email and that’s how this came to me (even though I already have the set):
https://www.arrowvideo.com/shawscope.../13941080.html |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14434932)
I’m assuming this might be tied to the release of Volume 3, but Arrow just dropped SHAWSCOPE VOL. 2 to $72.50, which seems like a new low for those who’ve been on the fence.
With this collection, apparently we'll have 115 Shaw titles on BD in the U.S. |
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Wow, I hadn't realized so many Shaw films had made it to BD. I remember even as late as 2016 we had virtually nothing.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
(Post 14435236)
Wow, I hadn't realized so many Shaw films had made it to BD. I remember even as late as 2016 we had virtually nothing.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 14435245)
There's also 4 volumes (with more coming) of these sets from Shout....
It’s indeed impressive how many we’ve gotten on Blu, and in decent special editions to boot. I’d be curious how that total (so far) stacks up against the number of DVD era releases from Tokyo Shock, Dragon Dynasty, Funimation, Image, etc). Even if it’s more, I suspect there are some titles from that era that haven’t been upgraded yet, which makes me wonder what will happen when Arrow releases Volume 4, which is supposed to be their last one, isn’t it? Maybe the singles will continue from various labels? There are nearly a thousand Shaw films after all, and Celestial put out 760 on disc in Hong Kong (plus an additional 200-ish never-on-disc-anywhere titles in the 668-movie Ziieagle player, albeit many with edits), and even factoring out the films that wouldn’t sell over here, there’s still one heck of an impressive chunk of martial arts movies that might stay out of reach. It’s not hard to be grateful for what we’ve gotten so far, but I do hope that the quality of all of these boutique presentations and (presumably) the sales figures would prompt Celestial/IVL/Shaw to let Shout, Arrow, 88 Films et al continue dipping into their Shaw vaults in perpetuity rather than releasing a finite number of titles. |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14435396)
I’ve read that Shout is done with their Shaw acquisitions now, so it’s these four plus the Brave Archer and Ti/Chiang sets. Happy to be corrected on that.
It’s indeed impressive how many we’ve gotten on Blu, and in decent special editions to boot. I’d be curious how that total (so far) stacks up against the number of DVD era releases from Tokyo Shock, Dragon Dynasty, Funimation, Image, etc). Even if it’s more, I suspect there are some titles from that era that haven’t been upgraded yet, which makes me wonder what will happen when Arrow releases Volume 4, which is supposed to be their last one, isn’t it? Maybe the singles will continue from various labels? There are nearly a thousand Shaw films after all, and Celestial put out 760 on disc in Hong Kong (plus an additional 200-ish never-on-disc-anywhere titles in the 668-movie Ziieagle player, albeit many with edits), and even factoring out the films that wouldn’t sell over here, there’s still one heck of an impressive chunk of martial arts movies that might stay out of reach. It’s not hard to be grateful for what we’ve gotten so far, but I do hope that the quality of all of these boutique presentations and (presumably) the sales figures would prompt Celestial/IVL/Shaw to let Shout, Arrow, 88 Films et al continue dipping into their Shaw vaults in perpetuity rather than releasing a finite number of titles. As for further Shaw Bros. releases, it looks like 88 is diving back in this fall with: The Golden Lotus The Shadow Boxing To Kill a Mastermind The Golden Lotus is certainly outside of the typical American comfort zone and To Kill a Mastermind has to this point, if I'm not mistaken, been unavailable outside of the Ziieagle box. Edit: Here's the list of all of the titles that got US DVD releases. There were 102 total across multiple labels. 75 of those titles have received (or will soon receive) a blu-ray release in either the US or the UK. The titles with no release are marked with an asterisk. A couple of those have releases in countries like France or Germany, but not many. Spoiler:
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Nice detective work! :thumbsup:
I cringed a bit at the realization that I have virtually everything in that DVD list except for about six of them I missed back in the day, and the eventual OOP prices were ridiculous (and still are). I know I even upgraded some of them when Wellgo and Image did some four packs in space-saving packages. I just noticed the 88 announcements elsewhere tonight and was really surprised to see TO CATCH A MASTERMIND. I have the Ziieagle box (boy, that thing wasn’t cheap, but it was so cool) and I’ve long lamented the sheer number of movies on it – including many martial arts films – that never got a physical media release anywhere, even from IVL in Hong Kong during their impressive run in the early 00s (which would put the actual number of films they released overall much closer to the original 1000, an impressive feat no matter how you slice it). It’s about damned time someone from one of these boutiques actually considered what’s been hiding in that box for years now! As I mentioned, though, there are around 200 Ziieagle-exclusive titles in the box. In fairness, I’m not sure what portion of that is martial arts films (or other action pictures), but I remember it being substantial the last time I skimmed through it, so there’s a good chance we may die of old age before many of those see the light of day, not to mention some of those asterisked titles on your DVD list. I guess I’ll just have to cross my fingers reeeally hard . . . :lol: |
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Usually there’s leaks by now the day before their drops 👀…nothing yet??
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Captsmee.00
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Usually there’s leaks by now the day before their drops 👀…nothing yet??
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