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DJariya 01-03-22 07:10 PM

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There is a really good 49 minute documentary on the King Boxer disc in the Shaw Scope set on the history of Kung Fu movies. It was previously released on region 3 DVD many years ago. 2003 to be exact. It's totally worth the time to see it if you haven't already.

I watched it again last night after having not seen it over 10+ years and very informative with lots of good interviews.

I started watching King Boxer last night and I decided to go with the English dub. I actually kind of like the dub. It has the feel of watching the old school Kung Fu Theatre movies on TV back in the day.

dex14 01-06-22 10:58 AM

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I really do not like the J-card coming off the Shawscope box.

PhantomStranger 01-08-22 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14036281)
I really do not like the J-card coming off the Shawscope box.

Agreed, that wasn't a great choice by Arrow. Beautifully designed otherwise. I hope they keep mostly consistent packaging for future volumes.

DJariya 01-08-22 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14036281)
I really do not like the J-card coming off the Shawscope box.

You mean the purple card on the outside? yeah those things are annoying, but also you don't want to throw them away either since it has the contents description.

Neil M. 01-10-22 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14037379)
You mean the purple card on the outside? yeah those things are annoying, but also you don't want to throw them away either since it has the contents description.

The contents are listed inside as well but I guess it's a pain if you can't remember which titles are in each set.

squidget 01-10-22 11:28 AM

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any chance these releases will come with digital copies in the future? Or is anyone doing BD w/digital? The discs are good for the theatre room but sometimes I want to watch Dirty Ho on my iPad in bed.

Adam Tyner 01-10-22 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by squidget (Post 14038225)
any chance these releases will come with digital copies in the future? Or is anyone doing BD w/digital?

Boutique labels don’t really do BD + digital. Some of them do have a digital presence, but they aren’t connected with physical releases.

PhantomStranger 01-10-22 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by squidget (Post 14038225)
any chance these releases will come with digital copies in the future? Or is anyone doing BD w/digital? The discs are good for the theatre room but sometimes I want to watch Dirty Ho on my iPad in bed.

Once UltraViolet died and Hollywood moved towards Movies Anywhere, the smaller labels saw the writing on the wall and have largely abandoned digital copies.

joltman 01-11-22 07:15 AM

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I'm guessing it's a licensing thing, aren't physical and digital distribution separate?

Adam Tyner 01-11-22 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 14038449)
Once UltraViolet died and Hollywood moved towards Movies Anywhere, the smaller labels saw the writing on the wall and have largely abandoned digital copies.

Which boutiques routinely offered digital copies? I have at least one Shout Factory disc that does, and Mill Creek had (well, I guess technically "has") Moviespree, but I can't think of a single Criterion, Arrow, Scream Factory, Synapse, Blue Underground, Vinegar Syndrome, Mondo Macabro, etc. release at any point since Blu-ray launched that had a digital copy.


Originally Posted by joltman (Post 14038610)
I'm guessing it's a licensing thing, aren't physical and digital distribution separate?

Licensors often like to retain digital distribution rights for themselves, yeah, although some of the boutiques -- Arrow in particular -- do a lot of great work in the digital space, and it's definitely not unheard of for some of the boutiques to acquire digital rights too (and sometimes they'll own these movies outright and can do whatever they want).

dsa_shea 01-11-22 09:25 AM

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A few of the most recent Vestron releases have had a digital copy. However, my Steel Dawn didn't have the paper inside despite saying it came with one. I never bothered to recoup it.

rocket1312 01-11-22 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 14038655)
A few of the most recent Vestron releases have had a digital copy. However, my Steel Dawn didn't have the paper inside despite saying it came with one. I never bothered to recoup it.

Vestron is just a sub brand of Lionsgate, isn't it? Not a true boutique label.

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E Unit 01-11-22 12:59 PM

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Correct. The digital copy of Steel Dawn is Lionsgate.

PhantomStranger 01-11-22 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 14038651)
Which boutiques routinely offered digital copies? I have at least one Shout Factory disc that does, and Mill Creek had (well, I guess technically "has") Moviespree, but I can't think of a single Criterion, Arrow, Scream Factory, Synapse, Blue Underground, Vinegar Syndrome, Mondo Macabro, etc. release at any point since Blu-ray launched that had a digital copy.

Licensors often like to retain digital distribution rights for themselves, yeah, although some of the boutiques -- Arrow in particular -- do a lot of great work in the digital space, and it's definitely not unheard of for some of the boutiques to acquire digital rights too (and sometimes they'll own these movies outright and can do whatever they want).

Funimation was one notable example. They were offering UV digital copies and transitioned everything to their own digital platform when MA froze them out. What's funny is that Sony ultimately bought Funimation out, though they haven't attempted yet integrating MA capability.

Spiderbite 01-12-22 09:38 AM

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I know this probably isn't the spot but just out of curiosity's sake, since it is being discussed, for those of you that had movies in UV...did they transfer to MA?

dex14 01-12-22 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 14039245)
I know this probably isn't the spot but just out of curiosity's sake, since it is being discussed, for those of you that had movies in UV...did they transfer to MA?

https://forum.dvdtalk.com/streaming-...ting-down.html

E Unit 01-12-22 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 14039245)
I know this probably isn't the spot but just out of curiosity's sake, since it is being discussed, for those of you that had movies in UV...did they transfer to MA?

For the MA eligible movies they could. But that window to transfer ended a long time ago.

Brian T 01-14-22 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14033626)
I totally get what you're saying, and I'd like to see some of those here myself, but I'd argue that most of the titles you mention are "obscure" from the perspective of your average North American/British HK film fan. Whether that's a chicken or the egg situation is another discussion. But like I mentioned before, these labels are starting to widen their reach. They have to. You mention 88 "dabbling" in comedy, but that's where it starts, isn't it?

And you probably know this, but most of those Spectrum releases have English friendly HK equivalents. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them get released in the US/UK eventually.

Late reply here, but yes, I do know most of those Spectrum titles have HK equivalents (generally minus extras, though). That’s where I get most of them! I guess I’m among that dwindling minority of folks who still import Hong Kong discs FROM Hong Kong, and the unexpected releases there from companies like CN and Panorama surprise me on a nearly weekly basis. I don’t disagree that such titles are lesser known to the average western HK fan (and for what it’s worth, France certainly doesn’t have some kind of isolated fan base dedicated to non-martial arts Hong Kong films, which only further validates Spectrum’s work in my eyes in looking beyond the repetitive selections of the UK and US labels), but I can’t go so far as to call then obscure because when I used that term, I was more referring to titles much, much further down the food chain (long story short, I have a fairly massive collection of ultra-low-budget, often SOV ‘movies’ that will probably never see the light of day again in Hong Kong, let alone the west, nor would any western company bother with them, despite the occasional gems to be found). In the sense that Spectrum’s choice of titles might be considered obscure, I think it can likewise be argued that the Shaw library has a number of similarly lesser-known-in-the-west titles, and that’s often verified by text and video (YT) and even the myriad unboxing vids I mentioned earlier, in which the writers and unboxers clearly have little to no familiarity with certain titles being released by Arrow 88 et al. And that’s fine; it’s always cool to see newcomers discovering stuff, even if it is via pricier deluxe editions. But like you say, hopefully the occasional ‘dabbling’ – like that Stephen Chow title – will lead some of these companies away from the ‘safe’ territory of endless martial arts films, Jackie, etc.

PhantomStranger 01-17-22 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 14039245)
I know this probably isn't the spot but just out of curiosity's sake, since it is being discussed, for those of you that had movies in UV...did they transfer to MA?

Most UV movies from MA studios were allowed MA rights in a special transfer of accounts. Some people had problems but for the most part it was a smooth process.

Kurt D 01-18-22 01:03 PM

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If you slept on the 1984 Dune 4k from Arrow, it is available for $24.95 at Best Buy (sans the nifty post cards and what-not from the deluxe edition).
Dune [4K Ultra HD Blu-ray] [Only @ Best Buy] [1984] - Best Buy

John Pannozzi 01-18-22 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 14042502)
Most UV movies from MA studios were allowed MA rights in a special transfer of accounts. Some people had problems but for the most part it was a smooth process.

My MA seems to be having problems over the last year... I should look more into it.

Toddarino 01-19-22 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt D (Post 14042796)
If you slept on the 1984 Dune 4k from Arrow, it is available for $24.95 at Best Buy (sans the nifty post cards and what-not from the deluxe edition).
Dune [4K Ultra HD Blu-ray] [Only @ Best Buy] [1984] - Best Buy

Thanks for the heads up. I was dragging my feet on this release since I’ve always been so-so on the OG Dune, but this was too tempting to overlook.

Kurt D 01-19-22 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddarino (Post 14043736)
Thanks for the heads up. I was dragging my feet on this release since I’ve always been so-so on the OG Dune, but this was too tempting to overlook.

Ditto, I figure for the AV upgrade and 2 commentaries it was worth it. Still keeping my 2005 DVD with the Smithee cut, though.

Toddarino 01-19-22 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt D (Post 14043741)
Ditto, I figure for the AV upgrade and 2 commentaries it was worth it. Still keeping my 2005 DVD with the Smithee cut, though.

same here. Decent looking steelbook too.

PerryD 01-27-22 07:16 PM

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Neil M. 01-27-22 07:56 PM

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I also saw that 12 Monkeys is getting a 4K release as well.

TomOpus 01-27-22 10:18 PM

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I don't care how good it is, Henry is one depressing movie to me. Never felt compelled to own it, even on DVD.

PerryD 01-28-22 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 14048504)
I don't care how good it is, Henry is one depressing movie to me. Never felt compelled to own it, even on DVD.

I saw it first on VHS which is probably the best format for a movie like this.

dex14 01-28-22 09:09 AM

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rocket1312 01-28-22 10:16 AM

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Of course 8 Diagram gets a new scan. Ugh. Was hoping I could skip that one, but I'm going to feel compelled to pick it up. I like the idea of the exclusive original poster slip case, but the original poster kind of sucks.

And yet another disappointing Chabrol set full of titles already available on BD. If the new transfers on the first set are any indication of what we're getting with this one, this will be an easy pass.

slop101 01-28-22 11:11 AM

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Was hoping 8-Diagram would be in a Shaw Bros box-set, but I guess it's too popular not to sell on it's own.

dex14 01-28-22 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 14048682)
Was hoping 8-Diagram would be in a Shaw Bros box-set, but I guess it's too popular not to sell on it's own.

The rights in the UK are currently with 88 Films (released 2 years ago), so they can't put it in the box. Arrow is only releasing it as a Region A title. It is the same situation with Come Drink With Me as well.

Brian T 01-28-22 12:44 PM

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Glad to see a new(er?) artist being featured on the cover, even though I'll always prefer the original HK art for display. Kung-Fu Bob is clearly stretching himself too thin these days (comparing his solid art from the 88 Films release of 8-DIAGRAM to the rushed appearance of many of his recent works will attest to that). This Marc Aspinall – similar to Tony Stella on COME DRINK – has a much better sense of balance and spatial relationships, even if he's clearly a devotee of the Struzan school. And at least this US/Canada version has some decent extras. The 88 release was pretty barebones.

asianxcore 01-28-22 05:44 PM

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So excited about Henry:Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) coming to 4K UHD! :banana:

PhantomStranger 02-07-22 04:57 PM

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Exclusive slipcover edition of The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter Blu-ray release only available from the Arrow Store.

https://www.arrowvideo.com/blu-ray/t.../13633203.html

dex14 02-22-22 07:54 AM

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Based on the wording of this tweet, it sounds like more Shawscope Volumes beyond Vol. 2 are being planned:


rocket1312 02-22-22 09:37 AM

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You could insert just about any Shaw Bros. director that isn't Chang Cheh or Lau Kar Leung into that tweet and it would be true.

That said, give me all the Chor Yuen.

DJariya 02-24-22 03:59 PM

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Looks like Arrow is releasing a Wild Things 4K this May


TheMovieman 02-24-22 04:03 PM

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:banana:

Hope there's a good amount of new features. In any case, will be able to retire my old Blu-ray.

dex14 02-24-22 04:10 PM

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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e631b571e1.jpg

Bonus Materials
New 4K restorations of both the Original Theatrical Version and the Unrated Edition from the original camera negatives by Sony Pictures Entertainment
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentation in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible)
Original uncompressed stereo audio and DTS-HD MA 5.1 surround audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing
Exclusive new audio commentary by director John McNaughton and producer Steven A. Jones
Commentary by director John McNaughton, cinematographer Jeffrey Kimball, producers Steven A. Jones and Rodney Liber, editor Elena Maganini and score composer George S. Clinton
Exclusive new interview with John McNaughton
Exclusive new interview with Denise Richards
Making of documentary
An Understanding Lawyer outtakes
Trailer
Illustrated collector’s booklet featuring new writing on the film by Anne Billson and Sean Hogan
Double-sided fold-out poster
Six double-sided, postcard-sized lobby card reproductions
Reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Sam Hadley


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