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I don't mind waiting if that's the problem, -it certainly makes me second-guess the value of the product. But like a lot of people, I wonder if there's not something else going on.

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I'm assuming their deal with Universal doesn't allow them to change the agreed upon release date.

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I wonder if they could finish it at a later time and offer it on a separate disc to people who purchase when it’s ready. Probably would be a lot of extra work though.

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I’m considering canceling preorder. Really wanted that extra. Everything else seems superfluous.

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I'm thinking about it myself. I was never a huge fan of the movie itself, but it seemed like it would make a great package.

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Not a fan of movie? Don't get something that'll sit on the shelf. I thought it was always about the movie? Otherwise you're buying marketing.

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Actually, it wouldn't just sit there, -I'd probably watch it soon after I got it.

I've bought many sets where the supplemental material, -the "Making Of"s -are far more interesting than the film, or they enhance the film and the experience and bring it all up a notch and make me appreciate the film differently. "Last House On the Left" is not many people's idea of a good time, -my first time watching it in a theater was a badly edited version, but watching it fully restored with all the Arrow bells and whistles, -that was a great evening, and I'm glad to have it in my collection. "Waterworld" on the other hand, -I appreciate the work in the set and that was interesting, but I was left a bit luke-warm by the longer cut.

I have my problems with "Dune", though I've only seen it on VHS, but I've read the book and I appreciate what Lynch was trying to accomplish. I just found it hard to warm up to, if that's even possible. And, -just citing a personal thing, -I can barely get through the scenes with the boils and all.
Still, if it's this massive set, with the documentary, and the other supplements, and the books, -I'm good with that. I'm real curious to watch the film after all these years in what's currently the best possible format. However, they're making it tough and I may have to re-think it.

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It's still slated for the Koch release, which comes out the same day. (Koch's lead times aren't as long as Arrow, so the doc not quite being ready yet is not an issue for them.)

I can absolutely understand the disappointment many people are feeling, and it especially has to sting since Ballyhoo is one of the very best producers of these sorts of extras.

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This is bullshit.

I'm seriously thinking about canceling my preorder in protest, though I'd really like to have those two books it comes with. :(

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I'm a fan of the movie, but I recognize that it's not that good. It's not something I can watch regularly and truly enjoy, like most Star Trek/Star Wars movies for example. Dune is something I would watch every now and then just to visit that world and take a look around again. The extended cut made it much more palatable because of the extra footage and for something like a special edition physical release, a feature length documentary would make it an easy buy. Missing both of those means that the existing Blu-ray of just the movie will suffice, though I need to look for another copy of the extended DVD since mine has apparently rotted.

It's not always just about the movie. Sometimes there's so much more to the movie than the movie that's part of the experience of the movie.

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I fucking love Lynch's Dune. The art design is absolutely bonkers, and the whole movie is weird and creepy, and that universe feels as real and alien as Star Wars.

I also think it's a movie like Blade Runner or Carpenter's The Thing that was so ahead of its time that it was underappreciated by both critics and audiences, who didn't really get what they were seeing.

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what’s the Koch release, how do I get snd is it confirmed to have doc?

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Speaking of Ballyhoo, they STILL haven't finished their Empire Pictures doc after several years, haven't they?

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The movie will be released on UHD in Germany by Koch Media around the same time as Arrow's edition. They'll have three copies: a SteelBook, a Mediabook, and an "Ultimate Edition" box set. Unfortunately, the UE is exclusive to the Koch Films web site, which will not ship to the United States.

https://shop.kochfilms.de/de/dune-der-wuestenplanet

I expect that the other two should be carried by Amazon.de, but I don't see them listed there yet.

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I'm sure it'll get pulled from the Koch release, too.

I'll still get for the new extras (like the commentaries) and the 4K disc. But, yeah major letdown losing the biggest extra.

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You're probably right, but at the moment Koch is saying that they still plan to include the doc. It's possible that Arrow requires more lead-time for their production pipeline than Koch does. If so, Ballyhoo might still be able to meet Koch's deadline even if they missed Arrow's. That's the hope, anyway.

What I'd like to know is why Arrow has such a line-in-the-sand for their deadline and can't push the disc release back a few weeks. If anything, that would move it closer to the theatrical release of the remake, which would help them piggyback off Warner Bros' marketing. Perhaps their licensing agreement will lapse if they don't put the disc out before September?

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To add a little more to what Josh said above, Koch sez:

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Is there any chance that down the road, those that bought and show proof, they might issue a separate disc with just the documentary?

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If it's a feature length documentary, they could probably release it as a standalone DVD/blu-ray for purchase, like all of those horror franchise documentaries.

I doubt Ballyhoo would have the ability to send copies out to people who bought the Arrow Dune, either financially or logistically, and I doubt Arrow, who would be better suited to do so, would want to pay to send out copies to people who bought their Dune release. They already have your cash in their pockets.

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Why? It should just be like a replacement disc? Other production cos do it. Why not just send out as a delayed extra disc that wasn’t ready when you original prepurchased. Show digital receipt or copied as jpeg, send name and address get a whole new corrected extras disc with the missing doc. Even verify you prepurchased before this announcement if they want to save money, but make sure they correct going forward. A lot do it…

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If Arrow were planning on a program like that, they would’ve said as much in their announcement. A stand-alone disc down the road is probably the best you can hope for, at least as far as a physical release from Arrow goes. I assume they spent some amount of money to help produce the doc and will want to recoup that somehow, but maybe it’ll just be something on their streaming channel and VOD.

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Well, that blows chunks.

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I’m hoping for a US/Canada release. We’ll find out soon enough.

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I finally picked this up finally. I haven't watched it yet, but read through the included booklet and found this:

So, they restored it in 4k but the best we got was an HD release? That's kinda weak.

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4K scan / HD release is annoyingly common anymore.

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Probably referring to the Arrow / Shaw announcement. I had read a comment about a 26 film set… not sure if that’s true. But from the sound of this tweet it seems like maybe…

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I cannot wait for this announcement. I hope they knock it out of the park. If it is 26 films, hopefully they are good ones and not a few classics padded with a bunch of filler. Also, I swear I read allusions somewhere (probably the other forum) to new scans for some (all?) of these films. I'm not counting on it, but it would be AMAZING. The old Celestial masters are better than nothing, but are far from ideal.

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Day 1!!

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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...d46b37654e.jpg

LIMITED EDITION BLU-RAY COLLECTION CONTENTS

High Definition (1080p) Blu-ray presentations of King Boxer, The Boxer from Shantung, Five Shaolin Masters, Shaolin Temple, Mighty Peking Man, Challenge of the Masters, Executioners from Shaolin, Chinatown Kid, The Five Venoms, Crippled Avengers, Heroes of the East and Dirty Ho

Brand new 2K restorations by Arrow Films from the original camera negatives of King Boxer, The Boxer from Shantung, Challenge of the Masters, The Five Venoms, Crippled Avengers and Dirty Ho

Brand new 2K master of the longer international cut of Chinatown Kid from original film elements

Original uncompressed Mandarin, Cantonese (where applicable) and English mono audio

Newly translated English subtitles for each film

Hours of bonus features including brand new commentaries and critic appreciations on selected films, new and archive interviews with cast and crew, alternate credit sequences, trailer and image galleries for each film and more to be announced!

60 page book featuring new writing by David Desser, Simon Abrams and Terrence J. Brady, with cast and crew info for each film plus trivia and soundtrack info

New artwork for each film by artists including Matthew Griffin, Chris Malbon, Jacob Phillips, Ilan Sheady, Tony Stella, Darren Wheeling and Jolyon Yates

£125

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Still no word whether it’s going to be a Region A release too? Please let it be.

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I think the official announcement is at 10am est, so more info then.

There will be early bird pricing as well.

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There's an argument to be made that the set is too focused on Chang Cheh and Lau Kar Leung (and if that's the route you're going to take, why is Might Peking Man in there?), but otherwise they definitely knocked it out of the park. Day one. Can't wait. Give me volume 2 now!

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They were rumoured to have acquired 50 Shaw Brothers films so it will likely be 4 Volumes.

In case you are wondering why I'm so hyped up about this release:

https://letterboxd.com/lorenzol/list...atched-ranked/

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I'm actually glad that Mighty Peking Man is in there. I did not expect that especially in the first volume release.

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12 is a lot less than 26. I feel duped!! /s

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The guy who had been leaking info said it was possible they were going to be splitting it up.

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My only thing is if you're going to present a volume that is for all intents and purposes a "best of the best" of Shaws kung fu, Mighty Peking Man sticks out like a massive sore thumb. If you want to do a more varied set (which I'd be totally cool with) then go with it.

Mighty Peking Man also happens to be one of the most widely released titles worldwide in the catalog on blu-ray. Since it's one of the ones not getting a new transfer, there's no reason to think it will be much of an upgrade over the 88 films version.

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No argument from me there. I just want it to be a Region A release too.

I'm really excited about Chinatown Kid since I watched a very poor English Dubbed VHS transfer online of the longer cut. It was still way better than the atrocity that is the present version that we have.

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Are you not region free?

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No. The low Canadian dollar and the cost of shipping, just doesn't make sense for me especially since COVID.