I already have 5 of these plus ones that hold from 36-200 dvds. Plus a huge box & I mean huge box that hold my Korean drama collection before I could download them in 720/1080p. I wonder if they air K-Dramas in 4K.

Had a friend who wanted one dvd from a 2004 drama he said he ripped from me but the file was bad. His father just started watching the drama. I told him his father should started watching in back in 2004 since I'm not at this time go looking for that drama in that huge box.

If a title made it to 1080p BD, does that mean it can make it to 4K for sure? As opposed to some titles that are on DVD but couldn't be put on BD.

What kind of issue are you talking about? Can you give an example of a title that couldn't be put on BD?

There are cases where labels didn't think the source material was high enough quality, so they'd opt for DVD only instead.

The questions are basically the same as it was from DVD->Blu-ray.

1) Does the label still have the rights to this movie?
2) Are there expectations that this title will sell well?
3) Is there a quality 4K master? If not, does it make sense to go the time/expense to remaster the film again (or even just upscale from 2K and give it an HDR pass)? 4K masters are far, far, far less standard than you'd think.

It's probably not worth putting anything shot on 16mm film and below on 4K. Heck, even some 35mm camera negatives won't always look that much better in 4K.

Yeah, I think the "DVD->BD no go" was mostly limited to older TV shows, e.g. early seasons of Buffy.

So I'm thinking about Firefly, Star Trek TOS/TNG, Batman Classic Series, Twin Peaks, etc. Those made it to BD... so is it possible for them to be put in 4k?

Wasn't Texas Chainsaw Massacre a 16mm film that got a 4K scan?

Likelihood of that scenario: 0

If you keep up with industry figures rather than the baseless "hopes and dreams" of forum members, you will quickly realize that the chance of that happening is quite unlikely. One check of the sales revenue at home media research will show that over 2/3 of the packaged media sold continues to be DVD. And furthermore, packaged media sales continued their descent in February with DVD sales down nearly 25% while the withering sales for Blu-ray were off sharply over last year at nearly 38%. So, Blu-ray has always been a niche market and that market is eroding quickly. Why? People have simply amassed tremendous libraries and digital downloading is gaining popularity quickly. The transition is based largely on convenience because unlike the leap from VHS to DVD, the viewing experience is acceptable to most. So what does that mean for UHD? It'll give new meaning to the term "niche market."

Many of us are still waiting for some beloved titles to be released on Blu-ray and many are re-released on DVD without a Blu-ray edition even considered. The studios tried to reinvigorate Blu-ray sales with the introduction of 3D, but it was welcomed with a collective yawn. Personally, I really dig 3D and have amassed a collection well over 100 titles. For me, 3D delivers an obvious benefit if you enjoy the "gimmick." However, I consider it an added feature rather than a new format. Nearly all of my recent 3D titles were purchased used, yes, with slipcovers and in pristine condition. I have quickly rebuilt my collection with titles purchased "used" on line and at local resellers. I find stuff in such remarkable condition that it is becoming obvious that people are rapidly selling off their well maintained collections.

The fact is, most people are moving away from packaged media and most titles will not see much benefit on UHD. So it just doesn't make economic sense for the studios to start pumping out lots of titles. That is why they are abandoning their own catalogs to Criterion, Twilight Time, Olive Films, Kino Lorber, Arrow, Shout! Factory etc, etc.

So any illusions that UHD will supplant Blu-ray or even DVD for that matter are ludicrous. I think your DVD and Blu-ray investments are safe. In other words, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

UHD BD is going to have a bigger impact than that.

The reason why Blu-ray didn't overtake DVD is because it was a simple resolution upgrade and most people didn't see a big difference because either their TVs were too small, they were sitting too far away, or both.

UHD BD is a huge upgrade because it adds HDR, WCG and 10 bit pass through. Resolution is the least noticeable visual improvement. Once people starting getting HDR TVs in their homes and see these improvements then they will see it as a much larger upgrade than DVD to Blu-ray was. Furthermore it is not dependent on screen size or viewing distance and that's very important for selling to the masses.

Now whether consumers choose to go digital or disc is another matter, but the upgrade from BD to UHD BD is much larger than what most people here think. You really have to see it to appreciate it though.

Problem is, most people will either not have a 4k TV with HDR or they simply won't know what it is - or care for that matter. UHD blu will be strictly a home theater enthusiast format. I'll bet you a shitty 4k title most people won't ever know whether their 4k TV has HDR or not. And 4k titles won't be anywhere near the volume a blu and especially DVD. It'll best be utilized on new movies, not catalog titles. Exceptions being classics that have had extensive restoration. I agree you have to see it to appreciate it, but most people will remain quite happy with good ole' 1080p. And 1080p TV's will remain low priced, and people will be happy with that. Spending $400 on a 50" TV is way more attractive than $1500 for a 4k TV with HDR. When those prices drop to 1080p prices, then sales will pick up. Until then, well hopefully the format will have enough traction to have a decently long life.

DVDs have been obsolete to me for the past decade. The HD titles fair much better because of the jump in resolution. DVDs are just not watchable to me on my projector. Blu-ray fixes that 1000%. 4K is even better.

This is exactly what was said back in 04-06! Once prices get in line, I don't see people buying 1080p discs over the same disc in 4K.

Most people don't have an HDR TV right now but that will be the norm in several years. True there probably won't be the volume of catalog but on Blu-ray most sales are from new and recent release anyway. Most consumers stopped buying catalog on disc long ago because they can stream it for free.

You're dreaming if you think that the Average Joe viewer who leaves his TV in the factory default torch mode setting will ever understand or appreciate what High Dynamic Range is.

And yet DVDs still significantly outsell Blu-ray copies of the same movies, even now in 2016.

He doesn't have to understand it, only needs to see it. The default settings are plenty sufficient (and the TV will go automatically into HDR mode when it senses HDR content) and besides when Dolby Vision (or whatever version of dynamic HDR prevails) comes out then the proper settings will be adjusted automatically.

You assume "regular" people give a shit. They don't. To them, sometimes "good enough" is all they care about.

Not by a whole lot though. The average top 20 Blu-ray share is around 45%. But revenue-wise it would be more than 50% of course since the Blu-ray's cost more. The reason why the overall share is so disparate is because most titles don't even get released on Blu-ray and that every mom and pop store has DVDs but not Blu-ray.

Yeah, the "He doesn't have to understand it, only needs to see it" argument won't make anyone change their minds for the most part. If he doesn't understand it, he won't want to buy it. I have hard enough time dealing with my parents and in-laws and just trying to get them to understand the difference between SD and HD channels on their cable.

DVD was/is "good enough" because for them Blu-ray doesn't look that much better (if at all), at least for the price difference. But it's possible for them to give a shit if the visual difference in enough. That remains to be seen of course, it's going to take years before the average Joe has an HDR TV.

HDR will be probably standard someday, not just in high end TVs like now.

Geez has anybody here bought into the format yet? A lot of skepticism...

I have, because I have a home theater and read up on what's going on. Most people don't. Of course they'll be standard someday, but again you are assuming a lot that the technical aspects is what's going to sell the new format. And it isn't. People will buy 4k/HDR because their TV's will break in the future and that's all that may be available.

And just like I'm assuming it will, you're assuming it won't (probably based on Blu-ray's track record and I don't blame you). I guess we'll see who's right in 4-5 years.

Look, I would love to see future growth in packaged media but it's simply not going to happen. UHD will only thrive in the digital realm. THere's no way it has any chance of reinvigorating an industry that is clearly on its last legs. Wake up, it is dying. These forums are further proof. The transition from VHS to DVD was a huge leap forward in terms of both convenience and quality. That simply is not the case with UHD—most people do not care about the increased color range and clarity. I've viewed both side by side and I'm a collector. It is beautiful no doubt, but not really leaps and bounds better than blu-ray. It's simply not the case. Perhaps if you own exceptional equipment the difference is more apparent, but the vast majority of people won't and really couldn't care less. Its success is a pipe dream. Not even the studios believe it, otherwise they wouldn't be giving up on their catalogs.

In my prediction that UHD BD will be better accepted than Blu-ray I never made any mention of how much physical will lose to digital in the meantime. Whether Joe Average chooses digital UHD over physical it's all good. Of course digital will continue to grow and physical will continue to shrink, but there will be a peak and a valley for both growth curves. And whether digital sell-through ever overtakes physical is anyone's guess (right now it's around 75% physical).

Have you seen and compared The Peanuts Movie UHD vs. BD? The UHD is definitely leaps and bounds better. You only need an HDR TV to appreciate it.