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Old 04-23-14 | 01:33 AM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Told ya.
Old 04-23-14 | 02:11 AM
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Sub $15 pricepoint for me since I'm still a Wages of Fear type of guy.
Old 04-23-14 | 05:35 AM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
I'm assuming it has one star cuz it's at least a damn good movie?

Question: did WB give that crap menu design they've been doing with the little symbols and etc.
Just be glad they at least have menus now.
Old 04-23-14 | 07:37 AM
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It like it matters to me cuz fuck DVDs when I can have the BD of it but... Why couldn't release a DVD of it?
I'm just curious why they bothered releasing it on DVD at all, especially since the audience for this is more or less people like us who're keeping up with what it is anyway. It's not a movie with a lot of mainstream cache. Maybe they had some leftover stock of the old discs and are trying to get rid of them?
Old 04-23-14 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JumpCutz
So this was wow. Colors popped and the widescreen really brought this home. Highly recommended and this is coming from someone who saw it multiple times during it"s original release and several times on home video and the dreaded pan and scan dvd.

It's not perfect, but it's damn close .The film looks fabulous and sounds perfect. The wait was indeed worth it.
I can't wait to see this in actual 4K tomorrow night.
Old 04-23-14 | 09:17 AM
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Lucky bastard! I hear the new DCP is even more stunning than the Blu.
Old 04-23-14 | 09:51 AM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Blind bought this one - arriving tonight.
Old 04-23-14 | 03:03 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Just wrapped it up this morning and this Blu-ray is going on my Top-10 list of the year in terms of quality. All things considered - it's a reference disc due to the video/audio quality. Honestly, I don't think I had ever seen the film before but it's definitely one of Friedkin's BEST flicks.

My nuts shrunk to peas during
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the bridge crossing
. Holy fucking shit is the movie bleak as fuck, too!

Old 04-23-14 | 04:42 PM
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Those final shots, the TD music swelling and the cut to the titlle card... gets me every time. Great stuff.

Movies don't get much better than this.
Old 04-23-14 | 05:11 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Just wrapped it up this morning and this Blu-ray is going on my Top-10 list of the year in terms of quality. All things considered - it's a reference disc due to the video/audio quality. Honestly, I don't think I had ever seen the film before but it's definitely one of Friedkin's BEST flicks.

My nuts shrunk to peas during
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the bridge crossing
. Holy fucking shit is the movie bleak as fuck, too!

DUDE, right?

I never saw Sorcerer till Wages of Fear finally came up to check off on that long ass list of films I'll see one day. I made grand mention of this on here too. I loved WoF, except for the ending. It doesn't kill the movie for me but I don't jive with it. THEN I saw Sorcerer. In its shit DVD form... Movie was still badass.

This BD is one of the best so far, with its audio/visual. Color boost aside... It's very impressive. Some shots look like they were just filmed. It's amazing to see this film after only seeing the shit DVD. It's a whole new world with the BD.
Old 04-23-14 | 08:55 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Originally Posted by HGN2001
I liked the sound mix and the opening up of the frame to 1.78:1. It gives the film a bit more breathing room and opens up the locations, which are a very important part of this movie.
Regarding the frame - although it may have served the film well, I doubt it was a conscious choice by Friedkin or anyone specifically for this title. Warner's policy has always been to open up 1.85:1 films to 1.78:1.
Old 04-23-14 | 09:15 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

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Regarding the frame - although it may have served the film well, I doubt it was a conscious choice by Friedkin or anyone specifically for this title. Warner's policy has always been to open up 1.85:1 films to 1.78:1.
It's negligible. Hell, it hasn't been seen in it's 1.85:1 ratio since 1977, right?

It's not a big deal. Actually, 1.78:1 seems to be the norm with regards to films originally framed in 1.85:1 but Josh would know more about that.
Old 04-23-14 | 10:13 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

$20.57 at Barnes and Noble:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dvd-...n=883929387762
Old 04-24-14 | 11:33 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
DUDE, right?

I never saw Sorcerer till Wages of Fear finally came up to check off on that long ass list of films I'll see one day. I made grand mention of this on here too. I loved WoF, except for the ending. It doesn't kill the movie for me but I don't jive with it. THEN I saw Sorcerer. In its shit DVD form... Movie was still badass.

This BD is one of the best so far, with its audio/visual. Color boost aside... It's very impressive. Some shots look like they were just filmed. It's amazing to see this film after only seeing the shit DVD. It's a whole new world with the BD.
actually in 4K the colors have a great pop - no prob to me. Some shots have some inherent grain, others have impressive black contrast levels. Not only did it look like some scenes were just filmed, some close-ups look like you want to reach in and touch objects - like the watch. Some exterior shots have this 'looking out a window' sharpness - damn impressive! The 5.1 sound is a tad sporadic, but really comes alive in the jungle and the hallucination scene.

how the hell this got a PG rating is beyond me - blood, gun violence, an F bomb - maybe the MPAA fell asleep during the screening
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Star Wars came out that year, they probably figured since no one would see the movie, it didn't matter . As far as the new sound mix, I'm assuming this was originally six-track stereo remixed into 5.1?
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Apparently, a new gunshot sound has been added at the end in the new sound mix, at least that's what I'm hearing.


Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
It's negligible. Hell, it hasn't been seen in it's 1.85:1 ratio since 1977, right? It's not a big deal. Actually, 1.78:1 seems to be the norm with regards to films originally framed in 1.85:1 but Josh would know more about that.
Josh explained it to my dumb ass, with some excellent screencaps, and basically the difference is so negligible than no director has ever found it a battle worth fighting, it's a minuscule sliver of information that has no visible effect on compositional intent. I still wish they wouldn't do it, but it's nothing worth getting upset about. Wonder if any old 35mm prints of this are even still around? Bet one in good condition would be a thing of beauty. Anyway, apparently Warner lifts the mattes on 1.85 to 1.78 on all of their Blu releases from what I understand. Like I said, it's not something that I'd endorse and I'd prefer they didn't, but the difference is so minuscule that's pointless to be concerned with it.

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Old 04-25-14 | 08:01 AM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Heh. I wasn't even talking about the vertical height going up a sliver from 1.85 to 1.78. That's totally negligible in my book.

No, I was talking about seeing the full width of the frame after being subjected to 4:3 all these years.

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Old 04-25-14 | 01:11 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
Star Wars came out that year, they probably figured since no one would see the movie, it didn't matter . As far as the new sound mix, I'm assuming this was originally six-track stereo remixed into 5.1?
Spoiler:
Apparently, a new gunshot sound has been added at the end in the new sound mix, at least that's what I'm hearing.

1977 saw the release of 'Night and Day', 'Star Wars', 'Metamorphoses', 'Tommy' (reissue), '2001' (reissue) and 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' in 6-track (70mm) sound. 'Sorcerer' is denoted as a stereo mixed film (whether that means 2-channel or 4-channel - I'm not sure) during it's initial theatrical run.

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Old 04-25-14 | 07:04 PM
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Hmm. Then I guess this would have to at least partially be a remix.
Old 04-25-14 | 08:52 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Picked this up at second spin for $10.20 (w/40% off coupon) watching it tonight. Wonder if Dark Delicacies will let me have him sign it, or if I have to buy from them. I guess I'll call to find out.
Old 04-25-14 | 11:21 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

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Picked this up at second spin for $10.20 (w/40% off coupon) watching it tonight. Wonder if Dark Delicacies will let me have him sign it, or if I have to buy from them. I guess I'll call to find out.
You have to buy it from DD and get a ticket for the signing. It's strictly limited.
Old 04-26-14 | 11:18 AM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Thanks, I won't be going then. He makes so many appearances, I'll catch him elsewhere.
Old 04-27-14 | 08:42 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

Finally got around to watching this. Fantastic! Another great piece of '70s cinema driven by an crazy obsessed director.
Old 04-28-14 | 01:03 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

I did a double feature with The Wages of Fear last night. The blu-ray helped me appreciate the film more than I have in the past. I still like The Wages of Fear more but Sorcerer is a good remake.
Old 04-28-14 | 01:54 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

I'm not sure which I like more. I tend to side with Friedkin's but also... That fucking WoF ending. Bothers me like crazy.
Old 04-28-14 | 01:56 PM
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Re: William Friedkin's Sorcerer - April 22

My copy of Sorcerer arrives tonight.
I own Wages of Fear, but haven't watched it yet.

I'm not sure I can handle a double-feature tonight. What should I watch first?


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