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Old 10-02-12 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mhanlen1
Blu-ray.com members, several of them, mentioned Wal-mart has a service to convert downloaded Vudu films to disc.
Sure that's right? Last I read, you bring your disc to Wal-Mart, they tag your disc and then you can get access to it on Vudu. Haven't heard of the service working the other way around but maybe they added it later on.
Old 10-03-12 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by zyzzle
Did anyone really think Sony or Savini would acknowledge a difference?
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Old 10-03-12 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by onebyone
I still think it's kind of crap to just change the coloring of a film like that. It definitely makes me wary of future releases, although I likely will still preorder Christine and hope no one decided to change it.

I really don't know what to do with my copy. Should I give it as a gift as intended or send it back? The high-def digest review really does not sound too promising.
I'm sorry, that review is largely wrong regarding the picture quality. The only real mistakes on the disc are a few shutter sounds from the original mix that somehow got mixed out in the new 5.1 DTS-HD MA soundtrack.

Fans that can accept the change to the new color timing will see a good Blu-ray, especially for a low-budget horror movie that was made in 1990.
Old 10-03-12 | 06:46 AM
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I watched this disc last night. Honestly, the color didn't bother me at all. It wasn't nearly as bad as some of the screencaps made it look. Some of those made it look unwatchable. Not the case at all. Yes, there is a darker tint. Really not as a big a deal as some are making it out to be.
Old 10-03-12 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
Sure that's right?
That's what I'm asking! After rereading the posts in question, it seems that they say disc to digital- I followed a link someone provided- and it only shows disc to digital. This is even more perplexing... why would someone want to convert a SD-DVD to HDX if you could just up-convert the current disc in a blu-ray player?

I guess that's what this means:

Third option (Pre-2010 look): Purchase the HD/HDX stream from VUDU, either for a discount via the disc-to-digital program through Wal-Mart or directly off the VUDU site. DVD/pre-2010 color grading in 1080p goodness. I believe it's already been mentioned in the thread but just reiterating...
Old 10-03-12 | 09:01 AM
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Wal-Mart is going to burn a 1080p film on a DVD? When the hell did this start?
Old 10-03-12 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I'm sorry, that review is largely wrong regarding the picture quality. The only real mistakes on the disc are a few shutter sounds from the original mix that somehow got mixed out in the new 5.1 DTS-HD MA soundtrack.

Fans that can accept the change to the new color timing will see a good Blu-ray, especially for a low-budget horror movie that was made in 1990.
So the Theatrical and every DVD release before were wrong? Sorry, don't think so.
Old 10-04-12 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mhanlen1
That's what I'm asking! After rereading the posts in question, it seems that they say disc to digital- I followed a link someone provided- and it only shows disc to digital. This is even more perplexing... why would someone want to convert a SD-DVD to HDX if you could just up-convert the current disc in a blu-ray player?
Walmart's use of the term "conversion" is a misnomer. Nothing is being converted. They're selling you a new streaming version of the movie at a discounted price so long as you can prove that you already own a legitimate physical copy.

If you bring a copy of the DVD into the store, they will put a stamp on the disc and then update your VUDU account with a true 1080p HDX copy of the movie for a $5 fee. (If you bring the Blu-ray in, the fee is only $2.) You walk out of the store with your original disc, and you can access the VUDU copy for unlimited streaming when you get home.

The streaming copy will not be burned to disc for you. That would be a violation of the DMCA and Walmart would never do it.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Walmart's use of the term "conversion" is a misnomer. Nothing is being converted. They're selling you a new streaming version of the movie at a discounted price so long as you can prove that you already own a legitimate physical copy.

If you bring a copy of the DVD into the store, they will put a stamp on the disc and then update your VUDU account with a true 1080p HDX copy of the movie for a $5 fee. (If you bring the Blu-ray in, the fee is only $2.) You walk out of the store with your original disc, and you can access the VUDU copy for unlimited streaming when you get home.

The streaming copy will not be burned to disc for you. That would be a violation of the DMCA and Walmart would never do it.
Cool thanks. I re-read the actual vudu page (instead of members comments), and understood it better. I didn't think anyone did this, next time I'll read more carefully.
Old 10-05-12 | 07:06 AM
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So I actually sat down and watched NOTLD90 last night, having seen the movie in theaters and in every single home video format it was released on since I have to say I actually like the color timing. It looks different for sure, but it's a nice detailed transfer otherwise and the Youtube videos and screen caps online way over exaggerated the darkness. I'm glad I bought it. I also still have the DVD, which I'll hold on to, if for some reason I'm craving the "old look".
Old 10-05-12 | 09:57 AM
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Does the tinting affect the whole movie or only parts of it?
Old 10-05-12 | 10:25 AM
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You can put me in the camp that thinks it looks really good.
Old 10-05-12 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joltman
Does the tinting affect the whole movie or only parts of it?
The color timing is different from the DVD and theatrical through the whole movie. But it's less noticeable during the first 15 minutes when the movie is taking place during the day/at dusk. ( I actually always thought this part was a bit too orange/red anyway, even when I first saw it), but the night "blue" more "modern" looking tint starts once the sun sets and is for the rest of the movie.
Old 10-05-12 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lastdaysofrain
The color timing is different from the DVD and theatrical through the whole movie. But it's less noticeable during the first 15 minutes when the movie is taking place during the day/at dusk. ( I actually always thought this part was a bit too orange/red anyway, even when I first saw it), but the night "blue" more "modern" looking tint starts once the sun sets and is for the rest of the movie.
Wait, what? I watched it the other night and it is WAY MORE NOTICEABLE during the beginning of the movie. It's not as dark as some of the posted comparisons would lead us to believe, but it is definitely more noticeable during the daytime scenes.
Old 10-06-12 | 01:03 AM
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This arbitrary change reminds me of the OAR wars of long ago, and how OAR was so important (it is). It confuses me how anyone here can think that changing the content of the movie from its theatrical presentation is in any way ok.

Why is OAR so harped on but this is given a pass? I've even heard people (maybe not here) that mock others who say they remember seeing it in the theater and it being obviously day time. "You can't remember something like that from 20 years ago", they say. My ass. I remember it clearly.

Sorry for the rant, its just been one of the weirdest bluray controversies in recent memory.
Old 10-06-12 | 06:02 AM
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Twilight Time has supposedly been quoted at HTF (I have been searching for the post, but can't find it as yet) that the long-delayed Major Dundee will be a two-BD release containing both the original theatrical version and the 2005 restoration.

EDIT: Found it, in the thread on Picnic:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/31...0#post_3984824

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Old 10-06-12 | 10:37 AM
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This arbitrary change reminds me of the OAR wars of long ago, and how OAR was so important (it is). It confuses me how anyone here can think that changing the content of the movie from its theatrical presentation is in any way ok.

Why is OAR so harped on but this is given a pass? I've even heard people (maybe not here) that mock others who say they remember seeing it in the theater and it being obviously day time. "You can't remember something like that from 20 years ago", they say. My ass. I remember it clearly.

Sorry for the rant, its just been one of the weirdest bluray controversies in recent memory.
Because people spent over $30 for the 90's version of NOTLD. Let that sink in for a second.

They also know they'll probably be able to sell it off for more.
Old 10-06-12 | 11:17 AM
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I watched this disc last night. Honestly, the color didn't bother me at all. It wasn't nearly as bad as some of the screencaps made it look. Some of those made it look unwatchable. Not the case at all. Yes, there is a darker tint. Really not as a big a deal as some are making it out to be.
Came here to post pretty much this exact same comment.
Old 10-06-12 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EdTheRipper
I watched this disc last night. Honestly, the color didn't bother me at all. It wasn't nearly as bad as some of the screencaps made it look. Some of those made it look unwatchable. Not the case at all. Yes, there is a darker tint. Really not as a big a deal as some are making it out to be.
That's what I've been saying. Those screencaps are darker.
Old 10-06-12 | 12:29 PM
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I just posted my long, rambling write-up about this whole ordeal. Despite generally being so bitchy about horror releases, I personally am mostly okay with this.
Old 10-06-12 | 12:49 PM
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As I said from the beginning, it's a fairly strong transfer of a 1990 catalog property, particularly for a low-budget horror production that was not a success upon release. The insane reaction by a small minority of vocal posters basically outshouted anyone willing to discuss the changes to the color timing.

As others have alluded, what happened is the average horror collector is used to buying their vintage horror BDs for under $20 and are upset by Twilight Time's limited edition business model. Sony should take the blame in the first place for not properly releasing it in 2010 when they made the new transfer. Blame the idiotic home video executives over at Sony.
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Giving the altered version of NOTLD a Recommended rating tells Sony and others that tinkering and color-revising their back catalog is "OK", and like the child that gets positive reinforcement, they will continue to do so.
Old 10-06-12 | 07:00 PM
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Giving the altered version of NOTLD a Recommended rating tells Sony and others that tinkering and color-revising their back catalog is "OK", and like the child that gets positive reinforcement, they will continue to do so.
The color timing and changes were tinkered with by the original DP of the movie. While I don't fully endorse all the changes, it's not like the changes were decided by an intern at Sony.
Old 10-06-12 | 08:57 PM
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For those that missed out, Screen Archives posted this:

"October 5 - We are receiving a number of inquiries from fans who missed out on NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD 1990 Blu-ray initially, and would now like to obtain a copy. A very limited amount of copies will be available again on October 26th, 4pm EST. These will be limited to 1 per customer, and to those who had not previously ordered one from us."
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aka a bunch of people returned their copies


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