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07-02-20 | 08:01 PM
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Getting Taza and Rarities vol. 1 tomorrow. Now, are those native 3D? Looking forward.
07-03-20 | 11:28 AM
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G.;13765939]Kickstarter: Help Restore the 1977 Martial-Arts Classic DYNASTY in 3-D!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...dynasty-in-3-d[/QUOTE]
Yet another win for the 3D Archive. This was funded (and then some) in just over a day or so. The first stretch goal will be announced tomorrow, with more to come apparently.
I noticed in the comments there that attempts were made to acquire Jackie Chan's MAGNIFICENT BODYGUARDS for a 3D restoration – which presumably means elements exist – but were unsuccessful.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...dynasty-in-3-d[/QUOTE]
Yet another win for the 3D Archive. This was funded (and then some) in just over a day or so. The first stretch goal will be announced tomorrow, with more to come apparently.
I noticed in the comments there that attempts were made to acquire Jackie Chan's MAGNIFICENT BODYGUARDS for a 3D restoration – which presumably means elements exist – but were unsuccessful.
UPDATE #1
We Made It!
Bob Furmanek, 3-D Film Archive
July 3, 2020
Wow, you are absolutely incredible. We’ve reached our initial goal of $10,000 and Dynasty will be restored and released in Compatible 3-D on Blu-ray! Thank you very much for your amazing enthusiasm and support for this project.
You’re going to love our first stretch goal and I’ll announce that in tomorrow’s update.
Thanks again for your kindness and support. Super Dragon has Super Backers!
We Made It!
Bob Furmanek, 3-D Film Archive
July 3, 2020
Wow, you are absolutely incredible. We’ve reached our initial goal of $10,000 and Dynasty will be restored and released in Compatible 3-D on Blu-ray! Thank you very much for your amazing enthusiasm and support for this project.
You’re going to love our first stretch goal and I’ll announce that in tomorrow’s update.
Thanks again for your kindness and support. Super Dragon has Super Backers!
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07-03-20 | 08:48 PM
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Are these oldies native?
07-03-20 | 09:02 PM
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07-03-20 | 09:17 PM
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No, but then many were anaglph with blue and red glasses, weren’t they? so I don’t know what’s native. If Alita is native how could they have that technology in 20th century?
07-03-20 | 09:36 PM
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None of these oldies were red blue anaglyph. They were all shot stereoscopic 3D and, for the most part, projected in 3D (or 2D where 3D capability wasn’t available or had lost its novelty). The anaglyph versions were compromises usually created much later so the films could be screened on television or, maybe, in re-releases wherein it was simply cheaper to run one strip of film (anaglyph) instead of two (stereo).
i know through the 70’s and 80’s, they’d occasionally show these older films in 3D on the local Detroit stations, always in anaglyphic format, and usually with some radio deejay “hosting” the event and telling you how to use the red/blue glasses you picked up at local retailers. Most young kids watching then probably had no idea these shows were once screened in true, full color stereo 3D, and thus assumed anaglyphic was the norm. Talk about a letdown. The horrible colours and the fact that you were lucky if maybe 40% of the picture had (barely) tangible depth effects and virtually no pop-outs meant that the experience grew stale rather fast.
it probably didn’t help either that so many stock and promotional images — even today —relating to 3D movies depict audiences wearing red/blue glasses! It’s like those colours HAVE to be there to telegraph “3D”.
Now, finally, after nearly 70 years, we’re finally being treated to these films the way they were intended, in native 3D, and with better and more stable image quality that was achievable back then.
i know through the 70’s and 80’s, they’d occasionally show these older films in 3D on the local Detroit stations, always in anaglyphic format, and usually with some radio deejay “hosting” the event and telling you how to use the red/blue glasses you picked up at local retailers. Most young kids watching then probably had no idea these shows were once screened in true, full color stereo 3D, and thus assumed anaglyphic was the norm. Talk about a letdown. The horrible colours and the fact that you were lucky if maybe 40% of the picture had (barely) tangible depth effects and virtually no pop-outs meant that the experience grew stale rather fast.
it probably didn’t help either that so many stock and promotional images — even today —relating to 3D movies depict audiences wearing red/blue glasses! It’s like those colours HAVE to be there to telegraph “3D”.
Now, finally, after nearly 70 years, we’re finally being treated to these films the way they were intended, in native 3D, and with better and more stable image quality that was achievable back then.
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07-03-20 | 10:00 PM
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Yeah, but I fear it may become the way of the dodo...
07-03-20 | 10:13 PM
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That's a display format; almost no movie was shot anaglyph. Once you've combined the images, you can't separate them, so you can't provide a separate 2D version for theaters or TV, or convert to any other 3D format. So the vast majority of 3D films produced 2 separate images, which were then combined in some way for presentation.
I only know of the 7 films using "Deep Vision" that shot directly to anaglyph. Even those would be considered "native," because the two images were created in-camera before they were combined on the negative.
Also, the vast majority of theatrical 3D films were screened using polarized images/glasses, back to the first 3D films. Before color film, to even present anaglyph you'd need two films of different tints, or untinted film projected through two different filters, to get the two colors, and if you're projecting two distinct images anyway, why not use the superior polarization method?
Some links for you to read and study up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_3D
https://www.stereoscopy.com/faq/anaglyphs.html
The question of whether a film is "native" is in comparison to the CG enabled post conversions that started in the mid 2000s. The Nightmare Before Christmas was the first full movie post conversion back in 2006; a few live actions films were only getting partial conversions around this time. So you don't need to ask for any 3D movie prior to 2005 if it's "native," because it is.*
And these links again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_films_pre-2005
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...(2005_onwards)
*Edit: excepting those earlier films that got a post-conversion after 2005. But those are all big-name movies that studios considered worth spending millions on a post conversion for. Nobody is spending millions on the films 3D Film Archive is restoring.
I only know of the 7 films using "Deep Vision" that shot directly to anaglyph. Even those would be considered "native," because the two images were created in-camera before they were combined on the negative.
Also, the vast majority of theatrical 3D films were screened using polarized images/glasses, back to the first 3D films. Before color film, to even present anaglyph you'd need two films of different tints, or untinted film projected through two different filters, to get the two colors, and if you're projecting two distinct images anyway, why not use the superior polarization method?
Some links for you to read and study up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_3D
https://www.stereoscopy.com/faq/anaglyphs.html
The question of whether a film is "native" is in comparison to the CG enabled post conversions that started in the mid 2000s. The Nightmare Before Christmas was the first full movie post conversion back in 2006; a few live actions films were only getting partial conversions around this time. So you don't need to ask for any 3D movie prior to 2005 if it's "native," because it is.*
And these links again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_films_pre-2005
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...(2005_onwards)
*Edit: excepting those earlier films that got a post-conversion after 2005. But those are all big-name movies that studios considered worth spending millions on a post conversion for. Nobody is spending millions on the films 3D Film Archive is restoring.
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07-04-20 | 11:33 AM
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I went ahead and backed Dynasty (before the goal was reached), first time backing one of these. But while watching Bob's video, I realized I never got around to getting Dragonfly Squadron. Anybody know where I can get it for a decent price? I see it on Amazon from a 3rd party vendor.
Looks like I have all the rest, except the 3D Rarities I & II. I think I'll just order those now.
Also, what's up with House of Wax? Is there anything different from the 2013 blu-ray? Or has it been restored from that one?
Looks like I have all the rest, except the 3D Rarities I & II. I think I'll just order those now.
Also, what's up with House of Wax? Is there anything different from the 2013 blu-ray? Or has it been restored from that one?
07-04-20 | 11:36 AM
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Speaking of anaglyphic, the 3D Archive has announced their first stretch goal, which is the inclusion — on the disc, not in print form — of a 1950’s 3D comic called THE HOUSE OF TERROR.
I’m just cut/pasting this from Kickstarter, so apologies if the images don’t show up!
Bob Furmanek, 3-D Film ArchiveCreator
July 4, 2020
You may be familiar with our highly acclaimed work in restoring vintage 3-D comic books. The original pages of these fragile 67 year old comics are now severely faded and the 3-D image is greatly diminished. With our unique proprietary techniques, we are able to digitally extract the original left/right artwork and restore a stunning 3-D image.
Here's a before/after example of our work:
Featuring incredible multi-level, three-dimensional art by legendary artists Joe Kubert and Matt Baker, the creepy stories include "Picture of Evil," "The Violin of Death," "The Curse of Khar," and "The Devil's Chair."
The House of Terror is truly one of the very best Golden Age 3-D comic books!
Please note: this will not be an actual physical copy of the comic book. It will be included as a bonus image supplement on the Blu-ray.
Once again, we are delighted to partner with CarlsComix.com on this restoration. Carl has done an amazing job with his charitable work in donating tens of thousands of comic books to deployed troops in bases, ships, and veterans’ hospitals around the world.
If you'd like to know more about the fifty Golden Age 3-D comic books that were published in 1953/54, check out this page on our website: 3-D Comic Book History
To reach this goal, we only need to sell another 58 copies of the DynastyCompatible 3-D Blu-ray. Please share this campaign and thank you very much!
http://kck.st/2BQTW9H
I’m just cut/pasting this from Kickstarter, so apologies if the images don’t show up!
Stretch Goal #1
Bob Furmanek, 3-D Film ArchiveCreator
July 4, 2020
You may be familiar with our highly acclaimed work in restoring vintage 3-D comic books. The original pages of these fragile 67 year old comics are now severely faded and the 3-D image is greatly diminished. With our unique proprietary techniques, we are able to digitally extract the original left/right artwork and restore a stunning 3-D image.
Here's a before/after example of our work:
- If you have a pair of anaglyphic glasses, be sure to put the red lens over your left eye.
Featuring incredible multi-level, three-dimensional art by legendary artists Joe Kubert and Matt Baker, the creepy stories include "Picture of Evil," "The Violin of Death," "The Curse of Khar," and "The Devil's Chair."
The House of Terror is truly one of the very best Golden Age 3-D comic books!
Please note: this will not be an actual physical copy of the comic book. It will be included as a bonus image supplement on the Blu-ray.
Once again, we are delighted to partner with CarlsComix.com on this restoration. Carl has done an amazing job with his charitable work in donating tens of thousands of comic books to deployed troops in bases, ships, and veterans’ hospitals around the world.
If you'd like to know more about the fifty Golden Age 3-D comic books that were published in 1953/54, check out this page on our website: 3-D Comic Book History
To reach this goal, we only need to sell another 58 copies of the DynastyCompatible 3-D Blu-ray. Please share this campaign and thank you very much!
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07-04-20 | 01:50 PM
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Cool stretch goal. I jumped in since I am still enjoying my 3D Blu-rays with my PS4 VR system. I really wish TV manufacturers hadn't dropped 3D. I always enjoy it.
4K 3D could have been phenomenal.
4K 3D could have been phenomenal.
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07-04-20 | 04:23 PM
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07-04-20 | 04:25 PM
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i just got those. will dig into sometime, but glad i have both in my 200 strong collection. i think Wax is just a reissue with different distributor who must have bought rights. i'm fine with current version. yet to see, but i eagerly anticipate...
07-04-20 | 10:24 PM
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Nothing has changed. It was originally a Warner retail release, but that went out of print, and they're reprinting as a Warner Archive Collection (WAC) manufacture on-demand (MOD) . It's not going to be available at most retail outlets, just Amazon and Warner Archive's own site, and it's going to be pressed with much fewer copies at a time, but it's still the same pressed disc as the previous release.
07-06-20 | 02:27 PM
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Haven't been quick to put my money in for the fundraiser since I want to know if I get anything extra if I donate more than the $35 for the disc. Guess they're not giving screen credits this time? Lucky to be working overtime (more than 60 hours per week) right now and though I'm saving most of it to finally move out of my cluttered apartment, I'll gladly donate to this cause and anything that promotes the availability of more 3D displays (I recently donated to the Change.org petition in my signature.)
07-06-20 | 04:02 PM
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They are only about $400 away from hitting their first stretch goal. Really impressive so quickly!
Hell, they still have 24 days to go in the whole thing.
Hell, they still have 24 days to go in the whole thing.
07-06-20 | 04:27 PM
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I did not want to make this campaign very complicated. The 3-D Blu-ray will be available from a major distributor by December and Amazon will carry it.
I'm simply looking to raise funds to make the restoration possible. Normally I would cover these costs out of pocket but funds are very tight so pre-ordering is the best possible option for raising that cash.
I'm simply looking to raise funds to make the restoration possible. Normally I would cover these costs out of pocket but funds are very tight so pre-ordering is the best possible option for raising that cash.
07-07-20 | 07:04 PM
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I really can’t believe Black Panther is a conversion. I think it’s one of the finest 3D presentations I’ve seen thus far...
07-07-20 | 07:23 PM
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You're welcome. I just bought Dragonfly Squadron from a 3rd party on Amazon for $30, and Walmart has 4 left now at $24.50 (I had set up a in stock alert).
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dragonfly-...u-ray/50576671
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dragonfly-...u-ray/50576671
07-08-20 | 09:54 AM
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You're welcome. I just bought Dragonfly Squadron from a 3rd party on Amazon for $30, and Walmart has 4 left now at $24.50 (I had set up a in stock alert).
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dragonfly-...u-ray/50576671
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dragonfly-...u-ray/50576671
https://smile.amazon.com/Dragonfly-S...dp/B00M1CFYHE/
I also got a notification that DeepDiscountDVD has some in stock, for $20.88:
https://www.deepdiscount.com/dragonf...n/887090083003
Walmart link for $24.50:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dragonfly...u-ray/50576671
I don't know if this release is going OOP, or if it was just hard to find for a while, but if anyone wants it and hasn't grabbed it yet, now might be a good time.
07-08-20 | 10:29 AM
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Yeah, just noticed the DeepDiscount alert myself. 
The Amazon seller is the same one I bought from!
The Amazon seller is the same one I bought from!
07-08-20 | 12:28 PM
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Stretch Goal #2 is up for the DYNASTY disc. Again, apologies if the pics don't show; I'm just cutting and pasting here. I really loved the slideshows on the RARITIES VOL. 2, so hopefully they'll make this goal. In fact, I'd happily pay for a future disc that was nothing but hundreds or thousands of categorized 3D slideshow images. The Harold Lloyd gallery on the second RARIETIES barely scratched the surface of his still-extant 3D collection, and I can only imagine how many others are stored away around this continent. The linked New York Times article below about Eric Drysdale's collection is a great read, with several semi-3D images embedded in it:
You may be familiar with our 3-D RARITIES II Blu-ray release from Flicker Alley. In that set is a wonderful segment entitled "Mid-Century Memories in Kodachrome Stereo" by Hillary Hess. It's a 15 minute trip down memory lane showcasing 3-D images taken by enthusiasts with the Stereo Realist camera. This supplemental feature was a great success and many commented that it was among their favorites.
I am VERY excited to announce a new stretch goal for our Compatible 3-D Blu-ray of Dynasty.
If we can raise an additional $2,000 and bring our Kickstarter total up to $15,066, stereo slide collector par excellence Eric Drysdale will contribute a fascinating look at the extensive use of stereo photography in the Mid-Century for promotional and industrial use. You will see remarkable Kodachrome stereo images of a bygone era and here's just one example. Check out those fabulous mid-50s radios and TV console. Wow!
Seeing this image in stereo 3-D is like having your own time machine and I know that you're going to love this segment. The stereo slides are, in a word, outstanding.
Earlier this year, 3-D Film Archive colleague Austin Quintana and I spent a delightful afternoon in New York with Eric looking at hundreds of incredible vintage stereo slides that he has rescued and saved from oblivion over the past 25 years.
Eric Drysdale, Austin Quintana, Bob Furmanek
Eric Drysdale is an Emmy-Winning writer and comedian who has been collecting 3-D images for over two decades. His collection of vintage stereo slides was featured in 2018 as part of LACMA’s (Los Angeles County Museum Of Art) “3-D: Double Vision” survey exhibit. In December 2019, the New York Times published this article about his work; Virtual Reality Before There Was Virtual Reality
Austin Quintana is the newest member of our team. He is an immensely talented photographer and filmmaker and will be assisting us with the digital scanning and restoration of these one-of-a-kind stereo slides.
We need to sell another 58 copies of the Compatible 3-D Blu-ray of Dynasty in order to reach our new goal of $15,066. Please help share the news about this campaign.
Thank you very much!
I am VERY excited to announce a new stretch goal for our Compatible 3-D Blu-ray of Dynasty.
If we can raise an additional $2,000 and bring our Kickstarter total up to $15,066, stereo slide collector par excellence Eric Drysdale will contribute a fascinating look at the extensive use of stereo photography in the Mid-Century for promotional and industrial use. You will see remarkable Kodachrome stereo images of a bygone era and here's just one example. Check out those fabulous mid-50s radios and TV console. Wow!
Seeing this image in stereo 3-D is like having your own time machine and I know that you're going to love this segment. The stereo slides are, in a word, outstanding.
Earlier this year, 3-D Film Archive colleague Austin Quintana and I spent a delightful afternoon in New York with Eric looking at hundreds of incredible vintage stereo slides that he has rescued and saved from oblivion over the past 25 years.
Eric Drysdale, Austin Quintana, Bob Furmanek
Eric Drysdale is an Emmy-Winning writer and comedian who has been collecting 3-D images for over two decades. His collection of vintage stereo slides was featured in 2018 as part of LACMA’s (Los Angeles County Museum Of Art) “3-D: Double Vision” survey exhibit. In December 2019, the New York Times published this article about his work; Virtual Reality Before There Was Virtual Reality
Austin Quintana is the newest member of our team. He is an immensely talented photographer and filmmaker and will be assisting us with the digital scanning and restoration of these one-of-a-kind stereo slides.
We need to sell another 58 copies of the Compatible 3-D Blu-ray of Dynasty in order to reach our new goal of $15,066. Please help share the news about this campaign.
Thank you very much!
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07-09-20 | 12:55 PM
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Once again proving that 3D is dead and nobody wants it... (sarcasm)
07-09-20 | 01:09 PM
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Also, that's only 430 copies of the Blu-ray, assuming everyone pledged $35 to get it. Consdering the US has 328 million people, and maybe 130 million households, that's a fraction of a percent of the number of people who could buy a copy.
I'm glad that there's still enough of a dedicated fanbase to let these niche titles get released in 3D on a boutique label, but this is far from a sign of any kind of mainstream demand for 3D.
07-09-20 | 08:47 PM
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So, after the ordering, refunding, sending, couldn’t figure where this was with tracking number from PostNL or something. I messaged them and told not how they could see and I couldn’t. But said in Netherlands as of 2 days ago. This has been over a month since supposedly sent out, but lookie what showed up along with this gem, though not 3D, still looks cool...
looking forward to the real 3D. The movie might be shit, but it’s Ang Lee, so I’m sure gorgeous!
looking forward to the real 3D. The movie might be shit, but it’s Ang Lee, so I’m sure gorgeous!