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Old 04-23-12 | 05:49 PM
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Yeah the source was in this thread itself Snake.
Old 05-31-12 | 01:18 PM
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http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Titanic-3D-Blu-ray/7548/

Finally officially announced:

Paramount offers the film in two HD iterations - a four-disc Blu-ray/DVD/Digital Copy combo pack designed to replicate the feature's 1997 theatrical exhibition and a four-disc Blu-ray 3D/Blu-ray/Digital Copy combo pack.

Note: For the Blu-ray 3D combo pack, Paramount has split the 3D version across two separate Blu-ray discs. The 2D version fits - along with the three commentaries - on a single Blu-ray in both the Blu-ray 3D and Blu-ray 2D editions. Furthermore, the DVD copy in the 2D combo pack is spread out over two DVD discs.

Update: Both 2D and 3D versions are presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio tracks alongside the following supplements:

In-depth Reflections on Titanic exploration of the film with James Cameron
Titanic: The Final Word documentary produced by National Geographic with James Cameron that brings the world's leading RMS Titanic experts together to discuss why and how the ship sank
Three audio commentaries:
- Director James Cameron
- Selected cast and crew members
- Don Lynch and Ken Marshall
Sixty behind-the-scenes featurettes
Featurette on the visual effects
Thirty deleted scenes with optional James Cameron commentary
Titanic crew video $200,000,001: A Ship's Odyssey
Deep dive presentation narrated by James Cameron
Constuction timelapse
Videomatics
Still galleries:
- Over 2,000 archival photographs
- James Cameron's Titanic scriptment
- Storyboard sequences
- Production artwork
- Ken Marshall's painting gallery
- "By the Numbers"
- Bibliography
Titanic parodies:
- MTV's 1998 Movie Awards skit
- Saturday Night Live skit
- Titanic in 30 Seconds
Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" music video
Trailers and TV spots

Titanic streets on September 14th.
Old 05-31-12 | 01:20 PM
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The 2D version fits - along with the three commentaries - on a single Blu-ray:
That's what I wanted to see.
Old 05-31-12 | 02:01 PM
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The disc breakdown is as follows:

Regular Four-Disc Combo Pack:

Disc 1 (Blu-ray):

Feature film in high definition
Commentary by director James Cameron
Cast and Crew Commentary
Historical Commentary by Don Lynch and Ken Marschall


Disc 2 and 3 (DVD):

Feature film in standard definition (Part 1)
Feature film in standard definition (Part 2)


Disc 4 Extras (Blu-ray):

Reflections on Titanic — NEW!
Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron — NEW!
Deleted Scenes with commentary by James Cameron
Behind-the-Scenes Featurettes
Construction Timelapse
Deep Dive Presentation—Narrated by James Cameron
$200,000,001: A Ship’s Odyssey—the Titanic Crew Video
Videomatics
Visual Effects
Music Video—“My Heart Will Go On” by Celine Dion
Trailers
TV Spots
Still Galleries
Titanic Scriptment by James Cameron
Storyboard Sequences
Production Artwork
Photographs
Ken Marshall’s Painting Gallery
Concept Posters and One Sheets
By the Numbers
Bibliography
MTV’s 1998 Movie Awards skit
Saturday Night Live skit
Titanic in 30 Seconds



Four-Disc Blu-ray 3D Combo Pack:

The disc breakdown is as follows:
Discs 1 and 2 (Blu-ray 3D):

Feature film in high definition and 3D (Part 1)
Feature film in high definition and 3D (Part 2)


Disc 3 (Blu-ray):

Feature film in high definition
Commentary by director James Cameron
Cast and Crew Commentary
Historical Commentary by Don Lynch and Ken Marschall


Disc 4 (Blu-ray):

Reflections on Titanic—NEW!
Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron—NEW!
Deleted Scenes with commentary by James Cameron
Behind-the-Scenes Featurettes
Construction Timelapse
Deep Dive Presentation—Narrated by James Cameron
$200,000,001: A Ship’s Odyssey—the Titanic Crew Video
Videomatics
Visual Effects
Music Video—“My Heart Will Go On” by Celine Dion
Trailers
TV Spots
Titanic Scriptment by James Cameron
Storyboard Sequences
Production Artwork
Photographs
Ken Marshall’s Painting Gallery
Concept Posters and One Sheets
By the Numbers
Bibliography
MTV’s 1998 Movie Awards skit
Saturday Night Live skit
Titanic in 30 Seconds
Old 05-31-12 | 02:15 PM
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Good to see Paramount bringing over everything from the four-disc DVD sets along with new material.

A portion of me is still hoping for the 3D version to be in 1.7:1 based upon the IMAX 3D release of the film.
Old 05-31-12 | 02:17 PM
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It is curious that they weren't specific about it.

Usually a site like Digital Bits will contact Paramount and ask to confirm it, so we'll probably find out relatively soon.
Old 05-31-12 | 02:23 PM
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Now I don't regret getting rid of my DVD version. Great to hear the 2D Blu-ray will have the complete movie on one disc.
Old 05-31-12 | 02:36 PM
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This is going to be great. I watched the 3D version in the theaters and I thought it was amazing. I already have the blu ray pre-ordered.
Old 05-31-12 | 02:37 PM
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The 3D version could never be on its own disc, unless it was encoded to be like the side-by-side 3D broadcast channel content, which would not even be true 1080p.

It's two entire full-sized video streams (MVC) which would never fit onto one 50 GB Blu-ray, so it had to be split. No other option.
Old 05-31-12 | 02:41 PM
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You have a good point Nick, do you think the 1080 2D version will lose resolution since it is such a long film on 1 disc?
Old 05-31-12 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JGaitan82
You have a good point Nick, do you think the 1080 2D version will lose resolution since it is such a long film on 1 disc?
I doubt it, and that's because Jim Cameron personally oversaw the "Avatar" Blu-ray encode and it didn't suffer with branching to additional scenes and all of that on a single disc when the collector's edition came out.

Considering all the work that went into restoring the film, there's no way Cameron will let Titanic suffer any quality issues. He did the same for Aliens and again, it looks fantastic.
Old 05-31-12 | 04:21 PM
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I'm glad to see everything from the 3-Disc set is being ported over. Now I won't have any regrets about selling my copy...
Old 05-31-12 | 04:39 PM
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The previous Collector's Edition DVD had a 6.1 DTS ES audio mix. I was hoping we'd get 6.1 or 7.1 for this release. Oh well, it'll still sound great.
Old 06-01-12 | 02:44 AM
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IMAX aspect ratio confirmed for 3D Blu-ray:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8828

Update: The 2D version will be presented in its 2.39:1 original aspect ratio, while the 3D version will receive a new 1.78:1 master with added information on the top and bottom of the frame to best fit the 3D experience. Both viewing modes also get English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio tracks
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Here's an interview with Jim Cameron where among other things he talks about the home release, and he mentions the IMAX aspect ratio and what was involved with using it:

http://au.movies.yahoo.com/on-show/a...val-on-2d-and/

What did you do on a technical level to prepare "Titanic" for both the 3D re-release and the Blu-ray editions?

JC: On the re-release, we released Titanic also in IMAX, the digital IMAX format, in 2D and in 3D, and we did that in 1.78:1 aspect ratio - this is kind of geeking out for neophiles now. But the film was originally released in a CinemaScope ratio - 2.35:1 ratio. So in the new release, the DVD and the standard Blu-ray and the 2D Blu-ray is 2.35, and the 3D Blu-ray is in 1.78 or 16:9, which means that it'll fill the HD monitor. And that's not cropped, that's actually added material. And in the process of remastering the film, we had to go back and do a lot of paint work to remove dollies and microphones and things like that, that were in view just outside of the scope area.

This is more of the videophile geek fest, but the film was originally shot with Super 35 format, which meant that there was always more frame available than what we released. So we've gone back to that and we've cleaned it up and so it actually plays beautifully in 3D in the 16:9 format, I think, so it's a slightly different experience.

The other thing is that the very first thing we did when started down the path of rereleasing the film was to do a 4k up-res remaster of the film to create a brand new master. We went back in the original negative and we made a 4k transfer. We went to a company that has, I think, the best proprietary algorithms for image enhancement and noise reduction. We did their top clean -- they call it a "clean" because it was originally developed for restoring old films -- and we basically removed all the grain, sharpened it without adding any artifacts whatsoever, and then obviously I spent a lot of time perfecting the color on it. And I can safely say that you're seeing something that actually looks better than what we would have seen in 1997 from an original negative print. And I can't say that not any of my other movies, but I could say that about "Titanic" because that's the process that we went.

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That's going to be an awesome release. I am so glad I ordered it. I saw it on the IMAX when it was released again this past April and it looked so amazing. I mean I never realized or appreciated what a technically well made movie it was.
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
The 3D version could never be on its own disc, unless it was encoded to be like the side-by-side 3D broadcast channel content, which would not even be true 1080p.

It's two entire full-sized video streams (MVC) which would never fit onto one 50 GB Blu-ray, so it had to be split. No other option.
A 3D disc does not contain two full-sized video streams. There's a lot of redundant data between the left and right eye views that only needs to be encoded once. Estimates I've heard claim that a 3D movie takes up about 1.5x the space of a 2D-only movie.

Regardless, Titanic is a long film, and Cameron and the studio obviously must have been worried about maximizing the quality.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
A 3D disc does not contain two full-sized video streams. There's a lot of redundant data between the left and right eye views that only needs to be encoded once. Estimates I've heard claim that a 3D movie takes up about 1.5x the space of a 2D-only movie.
I have a Blu-ray burner (external USB) and I looked at the file structure of "Avatar", and there's an additional folder labeled 'SSIF' which holds the playback information for both streams of 3D video. The SSIF playback file is 44.9 GB in size, probably adding both video files together in total size.

The movie's m2ts file (video, audio, subtitles) is 31.9 GB and the secondary video m2ts is 12.9 GB.

I no longer have the original Avatar movie-only release so I can't compare it in size to this 3D version. The collector's edition is made up of a dozen or so individual videos because of all the branching.
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I like that The Final Word documentary will be on this release. I didn't get a chance to catch it on the Nat'l Geo channel but I heard it was pretty good.
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I like that The Final Word documentary will be on this release. I didn't get a chance to catch it on the Nat'l Geo channel but I heard it was pretty good.
It was. I'm just surprised they'll be able to fit Cameron's ego on a 50GB disc!
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It was. I'm just surprised they'll be able to fit Cameron's ego on a 50GB disc!
What the fuck does that even mean?
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
What the fuck does that even mean?
If you've seen that special...Cameron insists he's right about certain things, even if the experts he has with him disagree.
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Dammit! Looks like us 2D aficionados will be getting the shaft with this release. Cramming the entire film on one disc will lose quality. My guess is, that with the 3 audio commentaties, and crazy bitrate audio, the video bitrate will be under 20 Mbits/sec. While the 3D version will be flying high in the mid-to upper 30s having a full TWO discs! There's NO way that the 3D version takes Twice as much space, simply because the codec is very efficient, and only 1.3x to 1.5x space requirements are more likely.

Also, it would have been great to get that 1.78 version with presumablely open mattes in 2D as well.

Will the 40 minutes+ of deleted footage be included in the 2D cut via seamless branching, or will it be relagated to 'extras' on disc 4?

We certainly know where Cameron's sympathies lie (== the cash cow of 3D).
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
If you've seen that special...Cameron insists he's right about certain things, even if the experts he has with him disagree.
I've seen it about 5 times - 4 times or so when it was on the channel that whole "Titanic week" (converted to 3D with the television made the special look very, very cool) and once more when I downloaded it before word got out that it would be included with the Blu-ray set, and I don't see it so much as an ego issue because at the end he freely concedes that the film gets quite a few things wrong, and goes by many of the experts research and opinions, even the revised findings.

I think it's more that people like to just overuse the word "ego" when it comes to Cameron, despite the fact, and I do mean fact, that the man not only gets amazing results, but has the balls to go along with the brains.

Originally Posted by zyzzle
Dammit! Looks like us 2D aficionados will be getting the shaft with this release. Cramming the entire film on one disc will lose quality. My guess is, that with the 3 audio commentaties, and crazy bitrate audio, the video bitrate will be under 20 Mbits/sec.
Umm....the Blu-ray editions of Aliens and the collector's edition of Avatar would say otherwise in a big way.

Also, notice that collector's edition of Avatar is....wait for it....2D only!
While the 3D version will be flying high in the mid-to upper 30s having a full TWO discs! There's NO way that the 3D version takes Twice as much space, simply because the codec is very efficient, and only 1.3x to 1.5x space requirements are more likely.
You said 2D will "get the shaft" but the codec is very efficient. Pick one. It can't be both. Also, the collector's edition of Avatar (again) would say otherwise. It's more than obvious that quality, be it 2D or 3D is THE most important thing.

Also, it would have been great to get that 1.78 version with presumablely open mattes in 2D as well.
which would royally piss off purists who rightly believe the 2D should preserve its OAR. The 3D is a modified version and this is a great idea, offering the 3D in 1.78 as it looks better on a television in that ratio. Just like Avatar.

Will the 40 minutes+ of deleted footage be included in the 2D cut via seamless branching, or will it be relagated to 'extras' on disc 4?

We certainly know where Cameron's sympathies lie (== the cash cow of 3D).
Have you not seen the extras list above? Have you not heard Cameron say time and again that the version of Titanic that was restored and converted was the same theatrical cut and there won't be any extended version? I certainly have.

Avatar has yet to see a commercial retail 3D release. Titanic won't be exclusive and the 2D version is not going to suffer but of bitching is fun, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by zyzzle
Dammit! Looks like us 2D aficionados will be getting the shaft with this release. Cramming the entire film on one disc will lose quality. My guess is, that with the 3 audio commentaties, and crazy bitrate audio, the video bitrate will be under 20 Mbits/sec. While the 3D version will be flying high in the mid-to upper 30s having a full TWO discs! There's NO way that the 3D version takes Twice as much space, simply because the codec is very efficient, and only 1.3x to 1.5x space requirements are more likely.

Also, it would have been great to get that 1.78 version with presumablely open mattes in 2D as well.

Will the 40 minutes+ of deleted footage be included in the 2D cut via seamless branching, or will it be relagated to 'extras' on disc 4?

We certainly know where Cameron's sympathies lie (== the cash cow of 3D).
There was no abrupt break in the middle of the movie when I saw it in the theater so I can't exactly view this as getting the shaft. Avatar is only 16 minutes shorter with multiple branching versions and alternate audio tracks and that's about as reference quality as you can get. Also keep in mind that Avatar is a full 1.78:1 transfer while 2D Titanic will have black bars throughout reducing the amount of space needed to keep it looking great.

The 40 minutes will not be put back in the movie.
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