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Mr. Cinema 12-06-10 06:10 AM
A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/15/11
 
Per blu-ray.com:

Paramount Home Entertainment has officially announced the Dreamworks production A.I. Artificial Intelligence for Blu-ray release in the US on February 15, 2011. This dark science fiction movie with a fairy-tale subtext, a project originally developed by Stanley Kubrick based on a short story by Brian Aldiss, was directed by Steven Spielberg after Kubrick's death.

Special features include:
-Creating A.I.
-Acting A.I.
-Designing A.I.
-Lighting A.I.
-A.I./FX
-The Robots of A.I.
-Special Visual Effects and Animation: ILM
-The Sound and Music of A.I.
-Closing: Steven Spielberg: Our Responsibility to Artificial Intelligence
-Two theatrical trailers (in HD)
-A.I. Archives

Amazon Pre-Order

http://www.thehdroom.com/images/bluray/large/5821.jpg

Superdaddy 12-06-10 08:13 AM
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A polarizing film to be sure, but I am in the camp that considers it one of Spielberg's very best.

With the BD coming out overseas, it was probably inevitable that we'd get an announcement here as well.

BuckNaked2k 12-06-10 08:21 AM
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Nice. I really like this one.

aynrandgirl 12-06-10 08:49 AM
Re: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/15/11
 
Originally Posted by Superdaddy (Post 10529584)
A polarizing film to be sure, but I am in the camp that considers it one of Spielberg's very best.
I'm with you, up until the lame tacked-on ending whose tone repudiated the entire movie preceding it. I'll be buying the BD.

Superdaddy 12-06-10 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl (Post 10529634)
I'm with you, up until the lame tacked-on ending whose tone repudiated the entire movie preceding it. I'll be buying the BD.
I probably should have stated in my original post that I'm also one of those who does not see the ending as optimistic, and this contributes to my admiration of the movie.

doctorthodt 12-06-10 09:43 AM
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It's definitely not a happy ending, much the same way War of the Worlds is mistaken for having a happy ending. Spielberg is more subtle than people give him credit for.

tylergfoster 12-06-10 10:51 AM
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At the absolute least, this is a dazzling, visual spectacle that I hope looks excellent on Blu-Ray.

FinkPish 12-06-10 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by doctorthodt (Post 10529730)
It's definitely not a happy ending, much the same way War of the Worlds is mistaken for having a happy ending. Spielberg is more subtle than people give him credit for.
Not to take this thread off course early, but in what way was the ending of War of the Worlds not a fairly happy one? (spoilered just in case)
Spoiler:
He's reunited with his son and family and aliens are dead/dying. Aside from the fact that probably millions of people were killed, the focus of the ending is on Tom Cruise's character, so it was presented as happy, at least to me. If it had focused on the millions dead, then I would agree with you, but he didn't do that.

doctorthodt 12-06-10 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FinkPish (Post 10529870)
Not to take this thread off course early, but in what way was the ending of War of the Worlds not a fairly happy one? (spoilered just in case)
Spoiler:
He's reunited with his son and family and aliens are dead/dying. Aside from the fact that probably millions of people were killed, the focus of the ending is on Tom Cruise's character, so it was presented as happy, at least to me. If it had focused on the millions dead, then I would agree with you, but he didn't do that.
Spoiler:
Except he's not really reunited with them. They all embrace, but Tom Cruise is cast aside, looking forlorn, an alien to his own family. I mean if your idea of a "happy ending" is "everyone Tom Cruise loves wasn't brutally murdered by an invading alien species like the millions of other people in the movie" then I guess that's cool, but it wasn't really the point that was deliberately being made there.

Swiski 12-06-10 11:42 AM
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Yes!!!! This will be the perfect Valentines Day gift...to myself.

Mabuse 12-06-10 01:04 PM
Re: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/15/11
 
Originally Posted by doctorthodt (Post 10529878)
Spoiler:
Except he's not really reunited with them. They all embrace, but Tom Cruise is cast aside, looking forlorn, an alien to his own family. I mean if your idea of a "happy ending" is "everyone Tom Cruise loves wasn't brutally murdered by an invading alien species like the millions of other people in the movie" then I guess that's cool, but it wasn't really the point that was deliberately being made there.
I beg to differ.
Spoiler:
What you are suggesting is that WotW has The Searchers ending, the man of action has made the family whole again, but there is no place for him in the family or society, so he remains outside and is destine to be alone. That would have been the perfect ending for WotW, but that is not what happens. Tom Cruise hugs everybody (his kids, ex-wife, in-laws) and there is a conventional happy ending.

Disc-Flipper 12-06-10 01:06 PM
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Thanks. This A.I. Blu news really made my day. I was thinking of buying the European release but don't need to now.

islandclaws 12-06-10 02:02 PM
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Meh. Not one of my favorites from Spielberg. If they're going to in ignore his best works for BD (Jaws) and focus on his more recent output, give me Munich, damnit!

WMAangel 12-06-10 02:09 PM
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I was hoping for a quick US release (with all the recent news about releases overseas)....
I love this film and can't wait to see and hear it on BD!

musick 12-06-10 02:12 PM
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:thumbsup::banana::thumbsup:

IstvanTheHun 12-06-10 03:06 PM
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a very flawed movie (that ending???!!), but amazing to watch nonetheless.

Speilberg came very close to a great masterpiece; but its still one of his best and a remarkable movie despite the flaws.

I cant wait to get this on Blu-Ray and am glad I help out and didnt get the DVD. I hope there is an Extended or Director's cut that comes with it...perhaps an alternate ending would be nice also lol.

Looking very forward to seeing Jude Law's astounding performance in Hi-Def!

BuckNaked2k 12-06-10 03:44 PM
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I'm holding out for the Kubrick version.

;)

FinkPish 12-06-10 04:00 PM
Re: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/15/11
 
Originally Posted by doctorthodt (Post 10529878)
Spoiler:
Except he's not really reunited with them. They all embrace, but Tom Cruise is cast aside, looking forlorn, an alien to his own family. I mean if your idea of a "happy ending" is "everyone Tom Cruise loves wasn't brutally murdered by an invading alien species like the millions of other people in the movie" then I guess that's cool, but it wasn't really the point that was deliberately being made there.
Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 10530102)
I beg to differ.
Spoiler:
What you are suggesting is that WotW has The Searchers ending, the man of action has made the family whole again, but there is no place for him in the family or society, so he remains outside and is destine to be alone. That would have been the perfect ending for WotW, but that is not what happens. Tom Cruise hugs everybody (his kids, ex-wife, in-laws) and there is a conventional happy ending.
I agree with Mabuse; I think you are reading too much into it. I'm all for subtext, but that's just not in the ending as presented.

doctorthodt 12-06-10 04:22 PM
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If you're all for subtext then I'm not sure why you'd disregard the blatant subtext of alienation in a movie about, you know, aliens, but suit yourself :shrug:

mikelowry 12-06-10 04:54 PM
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Looking forward to have this. Schindler's List and Munich on BD next?

FinkPish 12-06-10 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by doctorthodt (Post 10530553)
If you're all for subtext then I'm not sure why you'd disregard the blatant subtext of alienation in a movie about, you know, aliens, but suit yourself :shrug:
I'm not saying the subtext of alienation within his own family wasn't alluded to in the movie, I'm saying it wasn't not a happy ending, as you claim. The last shot before the big dramatic shot of the ruined city is of Tom Cruise hugging his thought-to-be-dead son. That, to me, is a happy ending. I'm curious to know what specifically is tipping you off that the ending isn't a happy one, and that it was intentionally done by Spielberg.

Drop 12-06-10 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdaddy (Post 10529667)
I probably should have stated in my original post that I'm also one of those who does not see the ending as optimistic, and this contributes to my admiration of the movie.
It should also be pointed out it wasn't tacked on, and that it doesn't repudiate the events before it. In fact the narrative would be awful if it didn't have a third act and thematically nothing would be achieved. David has to see his mother again.

It's one thing to hate this third act, but there is little justification for ending it with David in the amphibicopter. Everything up to that point indicated the film still had more story to tell.

Labor 12-06-10 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Drop (Post 10530948)
It should also be pointed out it wasn't tacked on, and that it doesn't repudiate the events before it. In fact the narrative would be awful if it didn't have a third act and thematically nothing would be achieved. David has to see his mother again.

It's one thing to hate this third act, but there is little justification for ending it with David in the amphibicopter. Everything up to that point indicated the film still had more story to tell.
Agreed. The movie doesn't work without it.

The opinion that AI should have ended at the Blue Fairy is one of the saddest movie related opinions Ive ever had to suffer.

lamphorn 12-07-10 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl (Post 10529634)
I'm with you, up until the lame tacked-on ending whose tone repudiated the entire movie preceding it. I'll be buying the BD.
I respectfully disagree completely about the ending. It wasn't "tacked on", but was the ending Kubrick had intended. Just to make sure we're all on the same page, the beings at the end
Spoiler:
were not aliens, as many many people thought. They were A.I.'s, the descendants of David (and us, basically).

Which leads to my pet theory about the whole movie which is
Spoiler:
that the entire story is not "real", but is in fact a fairy tale told by the future A.I's long after we are extinct. Was there a real David? Maybe, but probably not. The tip off is that the narrator is Ben Kingsly who also plays the lead robot at the end. It's a tale these robot beings tell their young, which expresses their yearning to understand their origins and touch their mysterious and absent creator (human beings), much like our myths and fairy tales address our yearning for meaning. Just my theory, and I've heard this expressed nowhere else, but it makes the movie make sense to me.

All that said, this is a day one purchase for me on Blu.

Numanoid 12-07-10 01:11 AM
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I remember reading your interpretation before, and I tend to agree with it. It wouldn't make sense to have Kingsley play both roles otherwise.

And this will be a day one purchase for me.

aynrandgirl 12-07-10 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lamphorn (Post 10531217)
I respectfully disagree completely about the ending. It wasn't "tacked on", but was the ending Kubrick had intended. Just to make sure we're all on the same page, the beings at the end
Spoiler:
were not aliens, as many many people thought. They were A.I.'s, the descendants of David (and us, basically).
I don't doubt Kubrick intended that ending. My issues regarding "tacked on" are matters of theme and tone.

My take on AI is that it tackles themes of disrespect, obsolescence, and abandonment. The part near the end where David (the child AI) is tossed in the ocean and sinking to the bottom would have been the perfect denouement. This is Hollywood, so we cannot have endings like that, especially on movies which are likely to have children watching (cue Haley Joel Osment), which Kubrick darn well knows. Kubrick's ending was both bizarre and relatively upbeat, which is a jarring departure from the tone of the movie preceding it.

bunkaroo 12-07-10 08:25 AM
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Great news - I can avoid the import now.

Numanoid 12-07-10 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl (Post 10531309)
Kubrick's ending was both bizarre and relatively upbeat, which is a jarring departure from the tone of the movie preceding it.
What? No way. The BEST you can say about the ending is that it's bittersweet. But it's quite sad to me.

Mr. Cinema 12-07-10 03:31 PM
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Amazon pre-order added to OP. The list price is only $24.99.

Swiski 12-07-10 08:58 PM
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Below is a link to the Amazon Japan page for the A.I. Blu ray. I wonder if we will get the same cover art. I did some more searching on their site and noticed that Demolition Man will be on Blu Ray in Japan in January. I'm hoping we get it soon after, along with a deluxe edition of The Fifth Element. I can only dream.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00439G1H...29&camp=211189

lamphorn 12-07-10 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl (Post 10531309)
I don't doubt Kubrick intended that ending. My issues regarding "tacked on" are matters of theme and tone.

My take on AI is that it tackles themes of disrespect, obsolescence, and abandonment. The part near the end where David (the child AI) is tossed in the ocean and sinking to the bottom would have been the perfect denouement. This is Hollywood, so we cannot have endings like that, especially on movies which are likely to have children watching (cue Haley Joel Osment), which Kubrick darn well knows. Kubrick's ending was both bizarre and relatively upbeat, which is a jarring departure from the tone of the movie preceding it.
You've gotta give Kubrick more credit than to accuse him of tossing artistic integrity aside to conform to Hollywood. Even if his choice confounds, he more than earned the benefit of the doubt in that department.

The jarring of tone was also a specialty of his. It's his way of essentially showing a couple of puzzle pieces to the audience, rather than smoothly putting them together, and letting the audience put the pieces together in their own minds. It's a strong belief of mine (and it's not original with me) that the most satisfying story is one that the audience is able to tell to itself. From Full Metal Jacket, which had a two-act, rather than three-act structure, to Path's of Glory which jumped from a long introduction of shaky hand-held battle scenes and rough, blunt characters to elegant camera-work and polite double-speak, to the completely bizarre ending of 2001.

Honestly, I think the themes you identify WOULD be the point of the movie had it ended at the bottom of the ocean, but Kubrick was reaching for something more, involving evolution, what it means to be a living being, and the nature of love and emotions. And it may be that Spielberg just didn't communicate it in the same way Kubrick would have, or as effectively, but I really don't think the ending was upbeat. And it takes some reflection and multiple viewings, as with any Kubrick film to even start to realize what he was going for.

I'm tempted to go on, and ask what's wrong with upbeat endings (not that A.I. has one, in my opinion) or even endings that shift from the tone of the rest of the film, but this probably all belongs in the Movie section.. but I respect your take on it. Sounds like you at least gave the movie a fair hearing unlike many people who trash the whole thing because they don't like or get the ending.

Numanoid 12-07-10 11:21 PM
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If Spielberg hadn't
Spoiler:
made the advanced Mecha look like aliens from his own previous movies,
the ending would have been a lot less confusing and better well-received, I'm sure. Just a bad design decision.

Mr. Cinema 12-13-10 07:23 PM
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Artwork added to OP.

GenPion 12-13-10 08:24 PM
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This is one of my all time favorite Spielberg films. I absolutely cannot wait to add this to my Blu-ray collection. I'm loving the cover art, too. Obviously it is leaps and bounds better than the artwork for Minority Report.

Gizmo 12-13-10 08:51 PM
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Oh god that cover is horrible.

Still going to grab this sub $15.

AnonomusBob15 12-13-10 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10543108)
Oh god that cover is horrible.

Still going to grab this sub $15.
yeah, looks like the cover for Angel Eyes.


Mr. Joel Osment is a family friend. My father was his godfather, and his is mine, so I feel obligated to buy all of his turd movies, and his is not one of them. Best film he made.

yes, call me out on my name dropping. :)

musick 12-13-10 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AnonomusBob15 (Post 10543168)
:)
dude, that's a great HJO (David) impersonation .... not one blink

Solid Snake 12-13-10 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10543108)
Oh god that cover is horrible.

Still going to grab this sub $15.
pretty much....I wonder how they're going to fuck up the Jaws cover. Cuz so far all the most recent Spielberg films to hit BD have had shit covers...

JZ1276 12-13-10 11:49 PM
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hasnt this already been released on Blu in a diff region?

Mabuse 12-14-10 10:44 AM
Re: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/15/11
 
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10543274)
pretty much....I wonder how they're going to fuck up the Jaws cover. Cuz so far all the most recent Spielberg films to hit BD have had shit covers...
Don't worry, the Jaws cover has been fucked up for years.


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