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Old 04-05-17, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
The accelerating collapse in DVD revenue is shocking. I thought it would be far more gradual. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, I rarely see anyone browsing in media anymore.
Even the used DVD stores are fading. The one near me is expanding to more things like those little big head figures and trading card games in order to keep cash flowing. I still find myself browsing there every now and then, but I rarely buy anymore. I either have most of what I want, or the titles still on my wishlist are somewhat obscure and I'd need to use eBay to find them (which really isn't as fun as browsing the shelves).
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
The accelerating collapse in DVD revenue is shocking. I thought it would be far more gradual. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, I rarely see anyone browsing in media anymore.
Actually the decline rate of DVD revenue has been very constant. The decline started in 2007 and then had an acceleration bump in 2009 to 15%. Since then the average decline has been 14.9% a year. Although this year it is around 18% so far, last year it was "only" 13.4%.

Pretty remarkable for a format that has been legacy for over 10 years now.

Yearly DVD revenue in billions
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Year	DVD	YoY decline
2006	13.89	
2007	13.38	-3.7%
2008	12.48	-6.7%
2009	10.55	-15.5%
2010	8.5	-19.4%
2011	6.8	-20.0%
2012	6	-11.8%
2013	5.33	-11.2%
2014	4.66	-12.6%
2015	3.96	-15.0%
2016	3.43	-13.4%
average		-14.9%
chart 1: DVD growth curve, with Blu-ray and Digital stacked on top
Y-axis is yearly revenue in billions
X-axs is year, with Year 1 = 2006


Chart 2: Blu-ray growth curve


Chart 3: Digital growth curve
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
Even the used DVD stores are fading. The one near me is expanding to more things like those little big head figures and trading card games in order to keep cash flowing. I still find myself browsing there every now and then, but I rarely buy anymore. I either have most of what I want, or the titles still on my wishlist are somewhat obscure and I'd need to use eBay to find them (which really isn't as fun as browsing the shelves).
I rarely buy, maybe a title a month on average. That's pretty sparse considering I used to buy 4 - 5 week at the height of my collecting. Although there are many reasons for my decline in purchasing; storage, huge unwatched pile, and wasted money, the fact of the matter is, from the list of already released titles, I already own what I feel like owning. I think in the last year or more, I have purchased one title that had been out for more than a year. The Oblivion UHD was on sale at BB and with my RZ credit it was only a few bucks. You just can't keep expecting people to buy at the pace they did when the format was new. Eventually you run out of stuff to buy.
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I rarely buy, maybe a title a month on average. That's pretty sparse considering I used to buy 4 - 5 week at the height of my collecting. Although there are many reasons for my decline in purchasing; storage, huge unwatched pile, and wasted money, the fact of the matter is, from the list of already released titles, I already own what I feel like owning.
The “unwatched pile” was my main reason for cutting back my spending. I would buy something and it would sit in that pile for months before I felt like watching it. My backlog was never as large as other users’ mentioned, but at one point, I think I had around 25 titles in it. I would look at that pile and just have no desire to watch some of the titles I bought. Eventually, I either forced myself to watch them or got rid of them. Until I got through that pile, I forbid myself from buying any new titles, which I think snapped me out of that buying mentality. It made realize I didn’t need to own every damn title I saw and “liked.”
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If I started collecting today, I could see myself buying 2 to 5 titles a week, tons great of movies to buy.

But, since I have about 1,000 movies now, I find myself only picking up 2 movies a month on avg...then another 5 or 6 at Christmas time (Black Friday and a few weeks afterwards).

Just picked up Doctor Strange and Rogue One...wife wants "La La Land" and "Beauty and the Beast" when they come out.

Will buy the 5 or 6 titles I want to own, but I am willing to wait to get a much cheaper price.
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Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
If I started collecting today, I could see myself buying 2 to 5 titles a week, tons great of movies to buy.

But, since I have about 1,000 movies now, I find myself only picking up 2 movies a month on avg...then another 5 or 6 at Christmas time (Black Friday and a few weeks afterwards).

Just picked up Doctor Strange and Rogue One...wife wants "La La Land" and "Beauty and the Beast" when they come out.

Will buy the 5 or 6 titles I want to own, but I am willing to wait to get a much cheaper price.
That "1000" number seemed so big until I remembered that before I threw out several hundred dvd-r's I had that number as well. I guess I will probably hover around the same total I have now, just as I buy new, I'll clean out some old stuff and drop it off at the library.

La La Land and Beauty are two titles I know I'll end up adding. Finally a couple I can get her for some occasion she will actually want.
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Wow, huge jump with the Fantastic Beasts release.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Nowadays, for big mainstream titles, I usually only purchase a BD or 4K if it's something that has replay value like a War movie with some historical significance or a sci-fi/big budget summer blockbuster.

Everything else, I am more than willing to just rent a digital copy or go to Red Box and get the disc.

(No big free Library rentals here in Orange County, CA) The last video store that I was a regular at just shut down in February. Finding rentals is becoming a little more challenging now.


Now on the other hand, for niche/horror/sci-fi catalog titles, I am very happy that labels like Shout and Arrow exist. They are probably the 2 big retailers where I have spent most of my money in the last several months. Granted, the titles aren't cheap ($20-27) on average. But, considering the work that goes into making them, I think it's worth the expense.

For a title coming out in theaters that I will definitely see like "The Fate of the Furious", I will absolutely pick that up when it comes to 4K/BD later in the year. Probably the same for Transformers: The Last Knight even though it will be really really long and bloated. Same with comic titles like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and Wonder Woman.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Now on the other hand, for niche/horror/sci-fi catalog titles, I am very happy that labels like Shout and Arrow exist. They are probably the 2 big retailers where I have spent most of my money in the last several months. Granted, the titles aren't cheap ($20-27) on average. But, considering the work that goes into making them, I think it's worth the expense.
They can be if you're patient with the sales. Got 5 arrow titles from the recent Familyvideo sale for only $60 shipped (avg to $12 a title). But ultimately it's how bad you want it NOW.
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Updated thru week ending 4/1/17
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)

Code:
Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2015 TBO2014

2017 HMM    1192.53   -12.3%     739.32   -17.4%     453.22   -2.5%    38.0%    2505.9  2862.7

13  4/1      112.95   -24.4%      60.55    -0.2%      52.40   73.8%    46.4 %    344.2   118.2
12  3/25     103.13   -28.7%      59.67   -35.5%      43.46  -16.7%    42.1 %    340.2   433.9
11  3/18      98.33   -12.1%      62.34   -17.5%      35.99   -0.9%    36.6 %    191.2   295.0
10  3/11     121.64    23.2%      67.49    -0.4%      54.15   74.6%    44.5 %    267.7   162.7
9   3/4      107.76     6.5%      63.76    -7.5%      44.00   36.5%    40.8 %    310.3   184.5
8   2/25      93.03   -12.0%      61.94   -12.3%      31.09  -11.3%    33.4 %    143.1   190.7
7   2/18      89.28    -8.3%      58.05   -14.9%      31.23    7.3%    35.0 %    123.5   101.2
6   2/11      92.58   -23.3%      58.63   -25.2%      33.95  -19.8%    36.7 %    210.1   266.0
5   2/4       78.85   -22.1%      51.94   -20.0%      26.91  -25.8%    34.1 %    159.2   123.2
4   1/28      72.94   -25.9%      47.60   -27.1%      25.34  -23.5%    34.7 %     52.1    97.3
3   1/21      69.27   -31.1%      46.31   -26.5%      22.97  -38.9%    33.2 %    127.6   302.3
2   1/14      75.60   -24.5%      48.94   -19.9%      26.66  -31.6%    35.3 %    191.3   449.5
1   1/7       77.17   -12.5%      52.10    -9.6%      25.07  -18.0%    32.5 %     45.6   138.3

2016 HMM    5453.79    -9.0%    3430.39   -13.5%    2023.41   -0.5%    37.1%   11887.0 10533.0

Q4   HMM    1846.85   -13.1%    1136.34   -13.3%     710.53  -12.9%    38.5%    3565.4  3309.2

52  12/31     94.19   -23.2%      59.19   -22.3%      35.01  -24.7%    37.2 %     69.0   109.1
51  12/24    282.55     1.6%     171.74     1.2%     110.81    2.1%    39.2 %    298.5   105.5
50  12/17    218.73   -17.6%     127.64   -19.2%      91.09  -15.3%    41.6 %    502.4   417.4
49  12/10    179.82   -17.0%     108.07   -14.0%      71.75  -21.2%    39.9 %    538.7   532.3
48  12/3     161.58    -3.7%     100.45    -8.4%      61.13    5.1%    37.8 %    233.7    19.6
47  11/2     280.33    -4.3%     173.78    -9.5%     106.55    5.5%    38.0 %    144.0    87.9
46  11/19    116.00    13.5%      65.09    -3.3%      50.91   45.8%    43.9 %    486.6    52.6
45  11/12     82.80   -24.8%      55.69   -20.7%      27.11  -31.9%    32.7 %    101.2   230.8
44  11/5      92.68   -27.5%      57.51   -25.7%      35.18  -30.3%    38.0 %    295.6   420.1
43  10/29     72.35   -29.5%      50.73   -22.6%      21.62  -41.6%    29.9 %    113.6   217.9
42  10/22     85.81   -35.3%      55.20   -19.1%      30.61  -52.4%    35.7 %    194.6   697.4
41  10/15     92.22   -13.7%      57.73    -9.6%      34.49  -19.8%    37.4 %    347.6   290.2
40  10/8      87.79   -11.6%      53.52   -19.2%      34.27    3.8%    39.0 %    240.2   128.4

Q3   HMM    1062.92    -7.8%     680.69   -14.7%     382.21    7.6%    36.0%    2480.1  2303.8

39  10/1      83.38   -28.0%      50.61   -29.4%      32.77  -25.8%    39.3 %    286.0   650.0
38  9/24      88.47    -6.9%      50.51   -18.8%      37.95   15.6%    42.9 %    158.3   185.3
37  9/17     100.88   -18.7%      56.65   -18.7%      44.22  -12.9%    43.8 %    521.4   584.4
36  9/10      80.07     0.1%      54.37    -7.1%      25.70   19.6%    32.1 %    141.9    43.9
35  9/3       86.79    -2.0%      56.56    -7.8%      30.23   11.0%    34.8 %    420.5   163.8
34  8/27      75.45     3.0%      51.95    -5.7%      23.50   29.4%    31.1 %    103.0    27.9
33  8/20      71.78    -5.7%      50.09   -12.0%      21.69   13.2%    30.2 %    128.5     7.8
32  8/13      65.55   -16.8%      47.80   -18.8%      17.75  -10.8%    27.1 %      4.2    67.2
31  8/6       75.00   -18.8%      51.34   -20.4%      23.66  -15.1%    31.5 %     78.9   166.8
30  7/30      77.19   -11.2%      50.45   -16.7%      26.74    1.3%    34.6 %    145.1   182.1
29  7/23      96.62    25.8%      53.10    -5.4%      43.52  110.3%    45.0 %    345.7     3.7
28  7/16      85.82    -6.5%      55.62   -12.8%      30.20    8.0%    35.2 %    140.2   185.9
27  7/9       75.92    -1.5%      51.64   -11.5%      24.28   29.7%    32.0 %      6.4    35.1

Q2   HMM    1188.41     4.3%     716.43    -9.5%     471.98   35.9%    39.7%    2985.4  1764.1

26  7/2       79.30    -1.7%      54.21   -10.4%      25.08   24.6%    31.6 %    185.8   115.1
25  6/25      77.13     0.6%      52.63    -6.9%      24.50   21.5%    31.8 %     72.4     0.1
24  6/18      98.65     1.9%      61.90    -4.9%      36.75   15.7%    37.3 %    175.5   100.5
23  6/11     107.74    19.3%      60.99    -1.2%      46.75   63.7%    43.4 %    431.8   185.5
22  6/4       76.29   -22.2%      51.94   -20.9%      24.35  -24.7%    31.9 %     73.8   309.0
21  5/28      73.60   -12.0%      49.82   -14.9%      23.78   -5.1%    32.3 %    140.1    23.6
20  5/21      77.54   -26.5%      50.34   -25.8%      27.20  -27.9%    35.1 %     61.1   376.0
19  5/14     107.18    23.1%      56.93    -6.0%      50.25   89.4%    46.9 %    403.3    34.5
18  5/7       81.33   -19.5%      55.32   -17.3%      26.02  -23.7%    32.0 %    112.7   251.6
17  4/30      78.19    -1.6%      52.00    -9.3%      26.19   18.3%    33.5 %    140.1    23.6
16  4/23      84.07     4.5%      52.84    -8.3%      31.23   37.0%    37.1 %    224.9    91.7
15  4/16      89.59    17.2%      53.25    -2.1%      36.34   64.8%    40.6 %     26.6    43.1
14  4/9      157.80    90.2%      64.26     9.0%      93.54  289.4%    59.3 %    937.2     7.8

Q1   HMM    1355.61   -14.1%     896.93   -15.7%     458.69  -10.9%    33.8%    2856.1  3156.0

13  4/2       91.71   -39.0%      61.35   -38.2%      30.35  -40.5%    33.1 %    118.1   333.7
12  3/26     145.35     0.1%      93.05     2.4%      52.30   -3.8%    36.0 %    433.8   498.8
11  3/19     112.95     0.7%      76.44    -0.2%      36.52    2.7%    32.3 %    294.4   260.6
10  3/12      99.52   -16.8%      68.43   -15.6%      31.08  -19.3%    31.2 %    162.6   114.5
9   3/5       86.02   -38.5%      60.05   -34.3%      25.97  -46.3%    30.2 %    184.1   350.9
8   2/27     106.70   -29.5%      71.62   -24.7%      35.08  -37.7%    32.9 %    186.8   303.2
7   2/20      98.44   -18.9%      69.29   -15.6%      29.15  -25.9%    29.6 %    101.2   218.7
6   2/13     122.01    -5.6%      79.65   -12.7%      42.36   11.3%    34.7 %    265.7   126.4
5   2/6      102.48   -15.3%      66.32   -21.2%      36.17   -1.7%    35.3 %    123.0   182.6
4   1/30      99.47   -10.2%      66.32   -11.6%      33.15   -7.1%    33.3 %     97.3   192.7
3   1/23     101.43     1.1%      63.96    -7.1%      37.47   19.2%    36.9 %    302.3   273.7
2   1/16     100.71    12.1%      62.20    -4.4%      38.52   55.4%    38.2 %    448.4   201.4
1   1/9       88.82     0.9%      58.25    -8.5%      30.57   25.4%    34.4 %    138.3    98.7

2015 HMM    5982.0   -11.6%    3959.60   -14.9%    2022.43   -4.6%    33.8%   10548.9 10507.6

Q4   HMM    2120.41    -6.6%    1312.11   -14.9%     808.32   11.2%    38.1%    3308.0  3199.3

52  1/2      122.55     1.1%      76.23    -9.2%      46.32   24.1%    37.8 %    109.1   103.7
51  12/26    278.08     5.8%     170.80    -6.4%     107.28   33.3%    38.6 %    105.5     7.1
50  12/19    265.13   -13.5%     159.63   -22.9%     105.50    5.9%    39.8 %    417.3   343.8
49  12/12    215.99   -13.0%     128.33   -20.5%      87.66    1.0%    40.6 %    532.3   410.0
48  12/5     167.01   -17.8%     108.97   -21.9%      58.04   -8.9%    34.8 %     19.5   291.0
47  11/28    292.88   -11.2%     191.68   -15.3%     101.20   -2.3%    34.6 %     87.9   165.5
46  11/21    101.56   -21.3%      66.89   -26.6%      34.68   -8.4%    34.1 %     52.6   324.7
45  11/14    109.57   -20.8%      69.83   -22.8%      39.74  -17.1%    36.3 %    230.6   391.6
44  11/7     127.41    -1.2%      77.03    -7.4%      50.38   10.2%    39.5 %    419.7   408.6
43  10/31    101.99    14.7%      65.10    -2.2%      36.90   65.0%    36.2 %    217.9    65.1
42  10/24    132.34    41.4%      68.00     1.9%      64.34  139.6%    48.6 %    697.0   157.5
41  10/17    106.67    -5.0%      63.65   -12.6%      43.02    9.2%    40.3 %    290.2   347.5
40  10/10     99.23    -6.7%      65.97    -7.0%      33.26   -6.2%    33.5 %    128.4   183.4

Q3   HMM    1147.35   -13.2%     793.83   -15.3%     353.52   -8.1%    30.8%    2299.4  2295.6

39  10/3     115.56     1.4%      71.34    -3.4%      44.22   10.3%    38.3 %    650.1   278.5
38  9/26      94.73    -2.5%      61.87   -11.4%      32.86   20.1%    34.7 %    184.7   156.0
37  9/19     120.04    -0.2%      69.38   -14.0%      50.66   28.0%    42.2 %    582.4   391.7
36  9/12      79.80   -28.5%      58.35   -20.4%      21.45  -44.0%    26.9 %     43.9   285.5
35  9/5       88.23    -0.7%      61.12   -10.2%      27.11   30.7%    30.7 %    163.6    40.0
34  8/29      73.03   -25.3%      54.90   -23.7%      18.12  -29.9%    24.8 %     27.8    66.3
33  8/22      75.79   -26.7%      56.68   -20.0%      19.12  -41.2%    25.2 %      7.8   217.1
32  8/15      78.42   -21.4%      58.56   -19.0%      19.85  -27.6%    25.3 %     67.1    93.1
31  8/8       92.02   -17.7%      64.19   -18.5%      27.83  -15.9%    30.2 %    166.8   283.1
30  8/1       86.59   -14.0%      60.24   -17.8%      26.35   -3.9%    30.4 %    181.8   187.2
29  7/25      76.44   -23.6%      55.78   -24.6%      20.66  -20.7%    27.0 %      3.7   147.7
28  7/18      91.34    -5.5%      63.42    -9.0%      27.93    3.6%    30.6 %    184.7   134.7
27  7/11      75.36    -5.9%      58.00    -4.7%      17.36   -9.7%    23.0 %     34.9    14.6

Q2   HMM     1136.2   -17.9%     789.33   -18.0%     346.83  -17.5%    30.5%    1763.1  1836.5

26  7/4       80.04   -10.1%      59.99    -9.6%      20.05  -11.6%    25.0 %    115.1     4.7
25  6/27      76.22   -21.3%      56.18   -16.9%      20.04  -31.5%    26.3 %      0.1   121.6
24  6/20      96.47   -18.9%      64.82   -15.8%      31.65  -24.5%    32.8 %    100.5   317.6
23  6/13      90.01   -21.9%      61.54   -19.8%      28.47  -26.0%    31.6 %    185.5   145.4
22  6/6       97.72   -12.0%      65.23   -11.7%      32.49  -12.6%    33.2 %    308.9   243.4
21  5/30      83.37     0.7%      58.42    -3.7%      24.95   12.7%    29.9 %     23.6    23.6
20  5/23     105.56    18.2%      67.81     6.1%      37.74   48.8%    35.8 %    375.9   189.1
19  5/16      86.81     2.2%      60.42    -2.7%      26.39   15.3%    30.4 %     34.3    72.1
18  5/9      100.88    10.2%      66.77    -0.7%      34.11   40.2%    33.8 %    251.6     5.7
17  5/2       79.35   -10.8%      57.24   -12.2%      22.11   -6.8%    27.9 %    225.1    51.6
16  4/25      80.42   -10.4%      57.62   -11.9%      22.80   -6.5%    28.4 %     91.6     0.1
15  4/18      76.44   -56.7%      54.38   -55.8%      22.06  -58.7%    28.9 %     43.1   296.7
14  4/11      82.89   -44.1%      58.91   -37.0%      23.97  -56.2%    28.9 %      7.8   365.0

Q1   HMM    1578.06   -12.1%    1064.33   -11.9%     513.76  -12.4%    32.6%    3178.4  3176.1

13  4/4      150.33    10.2%      99.28     9.4%      51.05   11.8%    34.0 %    332.0   165.9
12  3/28     145.19    -3.0%      90.83    -9.0%      54.36    9.1%    37.4 %    498.8   187.9
11  3/21     112.10   -53.7%      76.52   -45.3%      35.58  -65.1%    31.7 %    260.4   643.5
10  3/14     119.66   -11.6%      81.16   -13.1%      38.50   -8.3%    32.2 %    113.4    66.6
9   3/7      139.83    -1.7%      91.54   -14.1%      48.29  -18.6%    34.5 %    350.9   490.2
8   2/28     151.40    -2.6%      95.11    -3.3%      56.32   -1.4%    37.2 %    303.3   506.5
7   2/21     120.65    -5.2%      82.04    -7.6%      38.61    0.3%    32.0 %    216.5     0.2
6   2/14     129.22   -17.1%      91.16   -18.0%      38.06  -12.9%    29.5 %    126.3   162.8
5   2/7      120.93     3.2%      84.14    -0.7%      36.79   13.4%    30.4 %    184.4   147.1
4   1/31     110.66     0.4%      75.00    -3.0%      35.67    8.3%    32.2 %    192.8   319.5
3   1/24     100.24     4.2%      68.82    -1.4%      31.43   18.8%    31.4 %    273.7   196.0
2   1/17      89.84   -15.3%      65.07   -14.6%      24.76  -17.2%    27.6 %    201.2   261.7
1   1/10      87.99   -10.9%      63.66   -11.4%      24.34   -9.5%    27.7 %    124.8    28.2

2014 HMM    6783.24   -10.1%    4661.69   -11.0%    2121.58   -7.9%    31.3%   10450.6 10589.2

Q4   HMM    2267.71   -14.1%    1540.94   -13.0%     726.79  -16.4%    32.0%    3157.4  3445.0

52  1/3      121.21    -4.4%      83.90    -6.1%      37.31   -0.5%    30.8 %    103.7    24.5
51  12/27    263.04    -3.6%     182.27    -3.0%      80.77   -4.8%    30.7 %      7.1    83.9
50  12/20    306.48   -20.8%     206.91   -21.0%      99.57  -20.5%    32.5 %    343.4   406.9
49  12/13    248.11   -24.8%     161.33   -20.5%      86.78  -31.7%    35.0 %    409.4   618.1
48  12/6     203.22   -11.9%     139.51    -8.0%      63.71  -19.3%    31.4 %    291.0   235.1
47  11/29    329.76   -11.5%     226.35   -10.7%     103.42  -13.4%    31.4 %    165.5    80.0
46  11/22    128.77   -17.6%      90.97   -14.0%      37.81  -25.2%    29.4 %    324.7   354.1
45  11/15    138.26    -8.0%      90.36    -4.8%      47.90  -13.5%    34.6 %    391.5   380.3
44  11/8     128.78     2.9%      83.10    -5.6%      45.68   22.9%    35.5 %    408.5   209.3
43  11/1      88.60   -31.4%      66.32   -24.2%      22.28  -46.6%    25.1 %     65.1   302.2
42  10/25     93.20   -14.2%      66.38   -15.6%      26.82  -10.5%    28.8 %    157.1   212.5
41  10/18    112.00   -14.9%      72.69   -17.5%      39.31   -9.5%    35.1 %    347.4   293.7
40  10/11    106.28   -10.8%      70.85   -12.9%      35.43   -6.1%    33.3 %    182.9   244.6

Q3   HMM    1320.38    -8.6%     935.73    -8.5%     384.66   -9.1%    29.1%    2295.1  2305.5

39  10/4     113.89   -18.5%      73.80   -12.6%      40.09  -27.5%    35.2 %    278.5   288.6
38  9/27      97.15   -22.7%      69.79   -11.9%      27.37  -41.1%    28.2 %    155.7   414.8
37  9/20     120.20     5.5%      80.61     2.8%      39.59   11.5%    32.9 %    391.2   213.6
36  9/13     111.46   -16.0%      73.15   -14.5%      38.31  -18.7%    34.4 %    285.5   239.8
35  9/6       88.74   -18.9%      68.01   -17.8%      20.73  -22.1%    23.4 %     40.0   123.9
34  8/30      97.67   -16.3%      71.81   -15.8%      25.85  -17.5%    26.5 %     67.6   197.5
33  8/23     103.27     0.9%      70.74    -7.8%      32.53   27.1%    31.5 %    217.1   146.6
32  8/16      99.46    -2.2%      72.02    -4.6%      27.44    4.9%    27.6 %     93.1   130.3
31  8/9      111.46     4.8%      78.38     4.2%      33.08    6.2%    29.7 %    283.2   136.9
30  8/2      100.58    -3.3%      73.19    -2.7%      27.40   -4.7%    27.2 %    187.2   125.4
29  7/26      99.91     8.7%      73.88     3.1%      26.03   28.5%    26.1 %    147.6     3.9
28  7/19      96.55    -5.0%      69.59    -8.5%      26.96    5.5%    27.9 %    133.9   159.9
27  7/12      80.04   -19.4%      60.76   -20.2%      19.28  -16.8%    24.1 %     14.6   124.3

Q2   HMM    1381.45    -1.7%     961.09    -5.7%     420.37    8.6%    30.4%    1833.8  1735.1

26  7/5       88.88   -11.2%      66.22   -15.0%      22.66    2.3%    25.5 %      4.6     1.1
25  6/28      96.64    -0.7%      67.38    -8.4%      29.26   23.1%    30.3 %    121.6    78.1
24  6/21     118.84     8.1%      76.92    -2.9%      41.93   36.6%    35.3 %    316.3   135.0
23  6/14     115.15   -21.0%      76.72   -21.8%      38.43  -19.4%    33.4 %    144.9   334.5
22  6/7      110.91    -9.8%      73.74   -15.1%      37.17    3.0%    33.5 %    243.4   325.5
21  5/31      82.78   -10.1%      60.65   -12.9%      22.12   -1.4%    26.7 %     23.6    18.4
20  5/24      89.23   -13.7%      63.85   -15.3%      25.38   -9.3%    28.4 %    189.1    84.8
19  5/17      84.90   -11.9%      62.00   -12.3%      22.89  -10.9%    27.0 %     72.1    61.8
18  5/10      91.35   -22.5%      67.02   -19.8%      24.33  -29.0%    26.6 %      5.7   223.5
17  5/3       88.49   -15.2%      64.85   -14.1%      23.65  -18.2%    26.7 %     51.6   189.7
16  4/26      89.68   -11.1%      65.32   -10.6%      24.37  -12.3%    27.2 %      0.1   113.5
15  4/19     176.28    56.2%     122.89    54.5%      53.39   60.3%    30.3 %    295.8   162.8
14  4/12     148.32    45.2%      93.53    23.4%      54.79  108.0%    36.9 %    365.0     6.4

Q1   HMM    1813.70   -11.6%    1223.93   -14.2%     589.76   -5.7%    32.5%    3164.4  3103.6

13  4/5      136.35     6.0%      90.67    -1.5%      45.68   24.8%    33.5 %    165.9     0.4
12  3/29     149.53   -32.9%      99.72   -35.3%      49.81  -27.6%    33.3 %    187.8   297.1
11  3/22     241.91    18.3%     139.92    11.3%     101.98   29.5%    42.2 %    641.1   618.9
10  3/15     145.68   -10.9%     101.76    -8.6%      43.92  -15.8%    30.1 %     66.6   247.4
9   3/8      165.48   -15.3%     106.21   -20.7%      59.26   -3.4%    35.8 %    488.3   257.6
8   3/1      155.39   -12.4%      98.31   -23.9%      57.09   18.3%    36.7 %    503.8   315.7
7   2/22     127.22   -19.7%      88.74   -16.0%      38.47  -27.0%    30.2 %      0.2   247.3
6   2/15     155.64   -20.7%     111.97   -15.2%      43.67  -31.9%    28.1 %    162.8   368.9
5   2/8      117.08   -18.4%      84.67   -18.6%      32.41  -17.9%    27.7 %    144.0   171.1
4   2/1      118.53    -4.5%      84.08    -5.7%      34.46   -1.4%    29.1%     318.9   221.4
3   1/25      96.17    -7.9%      69.76   -11.4%      26.41    2.7%    27.5%     195.3    47.0
2   1/18     106.11   -10.2%      76.19   -11.5%      29.92   -6.8%    28.2%     261.6   213.6
1   1/11      98.61   -14.2%      71.93   -15.1%      26.68  -11.8%    27.1%      28.2    97.3

2013 HMM    7539.31    -8.3%    5242.51   -13.1%    2296.82    4.9%    30.5%   10668.2 10071.3

Q4   HMM    2766.93    -9.8%    1851.78   -14.0%     915.15    0.1%    33.1%    3728.2  3249.2

53  1/4      126.71   -11.6%      89.22   -14.9%      37.49   -2.5%    29.6%      24.5    67.2
52  12/28    272.62    14.2%     187.84     9.7%      84.77   25.6%    31.1%      83.8    11.9
51  12/21    386.85    -8.2%     261.74   -14.4%     125.11    8.2%    32.3%     406.8   284.4
50  12/14    330.14    -5.5%     203.04   -15.2%     127.10   15.7%    38.5%     617.5   493.4
49  12/7     230.30   -24.6%     151.36   -22.3%      78.94  -28.7%    34.3%     235.1   586.2
48  11/30    372.25    70.3%     253.10    64.6%     119.15   83.8%    32.0%      79.9   133.4
47  11/23    156.10   -60.0%     105.57   -62.3%      50.53  -54.0%    32.4%     354.0    85.0
46  11/16    149.93   -12.3%      94.62   -18.5%      55.31    0.9%    36.9%     376.1   326.6
45  11/9     124.86    -3.7%      87.74    -6.2%      37.12    2.7%    29.7%     209.3   315.0
44  11/2     128.93     2.0%      87.22    -9.4%      41.72   38.1%    32.4%     301.9    93.5
43  10/26    108.04   -27.3%      78.18   -28.3%      29.87  -24.6%    27.6%     212.5   227.0
42  10/19    131.05    -5.6%      87.75   -11.0%      43.30    7.7%    33.0%     293.5   350.8
41  10/12    119.64   -13.2%      81.55   -11.3%      38.09  -16.9%    31.8%     244.6   181.9
40  10/5     129.51   -12.4%      82.85   -14.9%      46.65   -7.6%    36.0%     288.6    93.1

Q3   DEG    1448.64   -13.4%    1011.45   -15.4%     437.19   -8.3%    30.2% (EST)273.9   15.9%(share)
Q3   HMM    1401.22   -14.3%    1010.62   -16.4%     390.58   -8.4%    27.9%    2017.4  2145.2

39   9/28    125.64   -37.1%      79.05   -29.2%      46.59  -47.1%    37.1%     414.8   624.7
38   9/21    113.74    -4.1%      78.15   -13.1%      35.58   24.2%    31.3%     213.5   116.7
37   9/14    132.99    -1.9%      85.34   -15.8%      47.65   39.1%    35.8%     239.8   211.1
36   9/7     108.70     8.9%      80.72   -13.8%      27.98    8.9%    25.7%     123.8    46.5
35   8/31    114.52   -21.0%      84.31   -21.6%      30.21  -19.3%    26.4%     197.5   262.5
34   8/24    102.07   -29.3%      76.50   -28.1%      25.57  -32.7%    25.1%     146.4   105.5
33   8/17    101.24   -31.8%      75.14   -30.9%      26.10  -34.2%    25.8%     130.3   412.4
32   8/10    106.13    -8.3%      75.01   -13.4%      31.12    7.0%    29.3%     136.9   216.2
31   8/3     103.89    10.4%      75.15    -1.7%      28.74   62.5%    27.7%     125.4     0.1
30   7/27     91.47    -3.5%      71.25    -4.9%      20.21    1.8%    22.1%       3.9    18.5
29   7/20    101.61    -3.4%      76.01    -7.2%      25.60    9.8%    25.2%     159.9    81.0
28   7/13     99.26    -5.7%      76.13    -8.7%      23.13    6.0%    23.3%     124.3    59.6
27   7/6      99.96    -8.0%      77.86    -9.5%      22.10   -2.4%    22.1%       1.1     0.5

Q2   DEG    1457.26   -13.0%    1052.97   -16.7%     404.29   -1.5%    27.7% (EST)259.4   15.1%(share)
Q2   HMM    1432.97   -13.2%    1031.66   -17.1%     401.32   -1.3%    28.0%    1777.3  2318.0

26   6/29     97.21   -21.8%      73.46   -20.8%      23.76  -24.7%    24.4%      78.1   350.5
25   6/22    109.92    -5.8%      79.23   -10.9%      30.69   10.7%    27.9%     135.0    98.6
24   6/15    145.76   -10.6%      98.08   -15.6%      47.68    1.9%    32.7%     334.2   275.5
23   6/8     122.79   -19.0%      86.72   -18.2%      36.06  -21.0%    29.4%     325.2   374.1
22   6/1      91.91   -18.9%      69.55   -20.2%      22.36  -14.4%    24.3%      18.4    37.0
21   5/25    103.15    -6.7%      75.17   -10.1%      27.98    3.8%    27.1%      84.8   178.2
20   5/18     96.09   -12.1%      70.43   -15.0%      25.67   -3.1%    26.7%      61.8   200.1
19   5/11    117.72    -5.1%      83.48   -11.5%      34.24   15.4%    29.1%     223.5   187.5
18   5/4     104.34    -4.3%      75.45   -12.1%      28.89   24.7%    27.7%     189.5   105.0
17   4/27    100.75    -4.2%      72.97    -8.6%      27.78    9.8%    27.6%     157.3    67.9
16   4/20    112.75     1.5%      79.45    -3.3%      33.30   14.9%    29.5%     162.8   236.0
15   4/13    102.06    -6.0%      75.74   -12.1%      26.32   17.6%    25.8%       6.4    51.8
14   4/6     128.52   -36.9%      91.93   -41.8%      36.59  -20.0%    28.5%       0.4   155.8

Q1   DEG    2098.83     2.1%    1455.55    -6.7%     643.28   28.5%    30.6% (EST)231.2    9.9%(share)
Q1   HMM    2064.90     2.5%    1437.67    -6.2%     627.26   30.1%    30.4%    3169.8  2426.1

13   3/30    222.64    41.9%     153.75    26.4%      68.89   95.1%    30.9%     294.8   171.2
12   3/23    204.22    35.8%     125.59    14.6%      78.63   92.8%    38.5%     618.7   356.9
11   3/16    163.59    10.3%     111.45    -1.8%      52.15   49.6%    31.9%     244.8   279.2
10   3/9     195.09    19.0%     133.76    10.1%      61.33   44.3%    31.4%     256.6   216.0
9    3/2     177.32    15.9%     129.10    10.1%      48.23   35.0%    27.2%     315.6    82.3
8    2/23    158.25    -1.7%     105.48   -14.7%      52.77   41.6%    33.3%     251.0   274.4
7    2/16    196.00    -6.2%     131.73   -18.6%      64.27   36.6%    32.8%     368.6    16.2
6    2/9     143.36   -30.4%     103.88   -31.5%      39.48  -27.5%    27.5%     171.1   321.4
5    2/2     124.02   -15.3%      89.11   -19.9%      34.91   -0.8%    28.1%     221.2   118.7
4    1/26    104.36   -19.8%      78.68   -18.6%      25.69  -23.2%    24.6%      46.5   226.0
3    1/19    118.15    -7.3%      88.02   -14.7%      32.13   20.7%    27.2%     213.2   114.0
2    1/12    114.83    -8.9%      84.56   -13.8%      30.27    8.1%    26.4%      96.8   116.2
1    1/5     143.07     5.5%     104.56    -0.1%      38.51   24.4%    26.9%      67.2   134.3
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Wonder if Rogue One will push the blu-ray percentage past 50%...
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Wonder if Rogue One will push the blu-ray percentage past 50%...
Over 50% is a cinch. It will probably be close to 60%.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by bruceames
Over 50% is a cinch. It will probably be close to 60%.
I tried to get the Rogue One BD day after it came out in store. Best Buy, Target and two Wal-Marts had completely sold out of the BD on first day. They all had tons of the DVD. Ended up ordering from DDD.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by rw2516
I tried to get the Rogue One BD day after it came out in store. Best Buy, Target and two Wal-Marts had completely sold out of the BD on first day. They all had tons of the DVD. Ended up ordering from DDD.
My niece works in retail and whenever there's a blockbuster released to DVD or blu-ray people are lining up on release day. She said it's a madhouse especially when a new Disney movie streets.
You would think that in this day and age people would conveniently order online.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by hbilly
My niece works in retail and whenever there's a blockbuster released to DVD or blu-ray people are lining up on release day. She said it's a madhouse especially when a new Disney movie streets.
You would think that in this day and age people would conveniently order online.
If you're already going to Target/Walmart/whatever for groceries and such, it's just as easy to grab it then instead of waiting for shipping.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by milo bloom
If you're already going to Target/Walmart/whatever for groceries and such, it's just as easy to grab it then instead of waiting for shipping.
I agree. I find there's too many "what ifs" when shopping online.

Will you get a slipcover or not?

Do you want to wait 3-5 days for delivery?

Is it going to arrive damaged or not?

Will it arrive at all?

In some cases, do I want to spend another $10-$20 to qualify for free shipping?

Will it be the "store exclusive" version or the regular version?

All things being equal, I'd rather just buy it at a store.
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Down during the week Star Wars came out? Nice.

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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by arbogast777
Down during the week Star Wars came out? Nice.

That is surprising. How are all the store exclusives counted for things like this? Does that fracture the numbers?
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

It also depends on what came out that week last year - was it a huge release week?
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by slop101
It also depends on what came out that week last year - was it a huge release week?
If I'm not mistaken...
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edit: yup. That'd be it.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

There still seems to be a lot of confusion about what Rogue One is supposed to be. I'm seeing people on forums not understanding where it fits in the timeline. Maybe it needed an episode number, like Episode 3.9 or something. (Then we run the risk of getting into Kingdom Hearts syndrome...).

I wonder if that confusion is affecting the sales and it will have legs and keep selling down the road.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by milo bloom
There still seems to be a lot of confusion about what Rogue One is supposed to be. I'm seeing people on forums not understanding where it fits in the timeline. Maybe it needed an episode number, like Episode 3.9 or something. (Then we run the risk of getting into Kingdom Hearts syndrome...).
Immediately what I thought of when I saw "3.9" in your post.
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The Force Awakens might have come out the same week last year, but you would still not expect Rogue One to sell 28% less blu-rays...
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

I would

Star Wars: The Force Awakens - $936,627,416 (USA) (22 May 2016)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - $530,748,532 (USA) (19 March 2017)

the above is just USA box office numbers from IMDB.
edit: even if you stop TFA at the same week as RO, it's still $932,324,258


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