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Old 04-18-17, 08:18 PM
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by arbogast777
The Force Awakens might have come out the same week last year, but you would still not expect Rogue One to sell 28% less blu-rays...
I'd expect it to sell way less than even that. FA was episode 7, with Han, Chewie and Leia! R1 was basically Episode IV's title-crawl caught on film.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Wow, I seriously thought R1 did better than that at the Box office.

But I think it will pick up more of a following on home viewing, or especially if Disney starts bundling it with the other films.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Rogue One was never going to do the business of Episode VII.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by arbogast777
The Force Awakens might have come out the same week last year, but you would still not expect Rogue One to sell 28% less blu-rays...
Originally Posted by Dan
I would

Star Wars: The Force Awakens - $936,627,416 (USA) (22 May 2016)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - $530,748,532 (USA) (19 March 2017)

the above is just USA box office numbers from IMDB.
edit: even if you stop TFA at the same week as RO, it's still $932,324,258
Looking at those box office numbers, Rogue One doing 28% less than TFA is actually pretty good considering that it looks like it did about half of the domestic box office that TFA did.

Though TFA probably got more repeat viewings, and might have done better on IMAX (and its higher ticket prices).
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Yeah, I agree. Rogue One did about 56.7% of the box office. If you take away some (not all) repeat viewings (I saw both twice, so ), then yeah... Rogue One doing roughly 28% less on Blu-ray makes sense to me. There's a ton of other factors, of course (like other releases in both weeks), but generally... it seems right enough.

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and I liked Rogue One more than TFA.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Rogue One also had a pretty different tone than TFA, so that may have turned some people off. But, hey, the BD share was still above 50%, so that's good.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by bruceames
Actually the decline rate of DVD revenue has been very constant. The decline started in 2007 and then had an acceleration bump in 2009 to 15%. Since then the average decline has been 14.9% a year. Although this year it is around 18% so far, last year it was "only" 13.4%.

Pretty remarkable for a format that has been legacy for over 10 years now.

Yearly DVD revenue in billions
Code:
Year	DVD	YoY decline
2006	13.89	
2007	13.38	-3.7%
2008	12.48	-6.7%
2009	10.55	-15.5%
2010	8.5	-19.4%
2011	6.8	-20.0%
2012	6	-11.8%
2013	5.33	-11.2%
2014	4.66	-12.6%
2015	3.96	-15.0%
2016	3.43	-13.4%
average		-14.9%
Bruceames, would you be able to go back any further than 2006? I'd like to see how fast sales grew before they peaked.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by big e
Bruceames, would you be able to go back any further than 2006? I'd like to see how fast sales grew before they peaked.
2005 was the market peak for physical media in the United States. The studios would have been far better off in retrospect establishing Hi-Def media a couple of years sooner than they actually did. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it was hard to anticipate Netflix's growing dominance.

If all the studios had gotten behind one HD format and pushed it in 2004, that format would have achieved significantly higher penetration than Blu-ray ever reached.

Disney is singlehandedly crippling UHD's potential by refusing to join now.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
2005 was the market peak for physical media in the United States. The studios would have been far better off in retrospect establishing Hi-Def media a couple of years sooner than they actually did. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it was hard to anticipate Netflix's growing dominance.

If all the studios had gotten behind one HD format and pushed it in 2004, that format would have achieved significantly higher penetration than Blu-ray ever reached.
It was not really possible for this to happen earlier.

The blue lasers were tied up in patent disputes until sometime in 2004.

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/201...ngineer05.html

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/201...2/article.html
http://optics.org/article/9657

Nothing could be done until the disputes were settled.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Disney is singlehandedly crippling UHD's potential by refusing to join now.
UHD's potential is crippled by its refusal to support 3D, and having a large percentage of its available titles being 3D movies.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

It's been reported by several sources they'll be jumping into UHD later this year. If they play their cards right, they'll release both Marvel and Pixar movies first. I would double dip on those in a heartbeat. But they're not crippling it when we don't even have Dolby Vision titles out yet - although the upcoming Despicable Me movies will be the first titles released with DV.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by E Unit
It's been reported by several sources they'll be jumping into UHD later this year. If they play their cards right, they'll release both Marvel and Pixar movies first. I would double dip on those in a heartbeat. But they're not crippling it when we don't even have Dolby Vision titles out yet - although the upcoming Despicable Me movies will be the first titles released with DV.
So does that mean I'm obsolete already?
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

We're all obsolete. Good news is that everything old will be new again - and oh so cool.
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by big e
Bruceames, would you be able to go back any further than 2006? I'd like to see how fast sales grew before they peaked.

Code:
Year Total   DVDsell  DVDrent  BDsell  BDrent	% rent	% BD

1999	1.1	0.96	0.14	0.00	0.00	12.5%	0.0%
2000	2.4	1.82	0.58	0.00	0.00	24.0%	0.0%
2001	5.3	4.21	1.09	0.00	0.00	20.6%	0.0%
2002	8.6	6.45	2.15	0.00	0.00	25.0%	0.0%
2003	13.1	9.44	3.66	0.00	0.00	28.0%	0.0%
2004	16.7	12.45	4.25	0.00	0.00	25.5%	0.0%
2005	18.9	13.51	5.39	0.00	0.00	28.5%	0.0%
2006	20.2	13.89	6.29	0.02	0.00	31.1%	0.1%
2007	20.0	13.38	6.31*	0.25	0.05*	32.1%	1.8%
2008	19.3	12.48	5.92	0.63	0.27	33.0%	5.0%
2009	17.3	10.55	5.25	1.07	0.43	32.8%	9.2%
2010	16.2	8.50	5.35	1.80	0.50	36.2%  17.5%
2011	14.6	6.80	4.90*	2.15	0.77*	38.8%  24.0%
* = estimate
edited 4/2/12



Figures are in billions.
% BD = sell through percentage of BD vs. OD.
% rent = percentage of OD rentals (BD + DVD)

Code:
Year	ODsell	YoY%	DVDsell	YoY%	BDsell	YoY%	Odrent	YoY%
1999	0.96	0.0%	0.96	0.0%	0.00	0.0%	0.14	0.0%
2000	1.82	89.6%	1.82	89.6%	0.00	0.0%	0.58	314.3%
2001	4.21	131.3%	4.21	131.3%	0.00	0.0%	1.09	87.9%
2002	6.45	53.2%	6.45	53.2%	0.00	0.0%	2.15	97.2%
2003	9.44	46.4%	9.44	46.4%	0.00	0.0%	3.66	70.2%
2004	12.45	31.9%	12.45	31.9%	0.00	0.0%	4.25	16.1%
2005	13.51	8.5%	13.51	8.5%	0.00	0.0%	5.39	26.8%
2006	13.91	3.0%	13.89	2.8%	0.02	0.0%	6.29	16.7%
2007	13.63	-2.0%	13.38	-3.7%	0.25	1125.0%	6.36	1.1%
2008	13.13	-3.7%	12.48	-6.7%	0.63	152.0%	6.17	-3.0%
2009	11.62	-11.5%	10.55	-15.5%	1.07	70.0%	5.68	-7.9%
2010	10.70	-7.9%	8.90	-15.6%	1.80	68.2%	5.80	2.1%
2011	9.10	-15.0%	6.90	-22.5%	2.20	22.2%	5.90	1.7%

Historical Rentrak data of home video (in billions)
Code:
Year   Rental   Sales   Total
	$0.30 	$0.30 	$0.60 
1983	$0.70 	$0.30 	$1.00 
1984	$1.20 	$0.40 	$1.60 
1985	$2.10 	$0.60 	$2.70 
1986	$3.00 	$0.90 	$3.90 
1987	$3.90 	$1.00 	$4.90 
1988	$4.70 	$1.70 	$6.40 
1989	$5.50 	$2.20 	$7.70 
1990	$6.30 	$2.70 	$9.00 
1991	$6.40 	$2.80 	$9.20 
1992	$7.00 	$2.90 	$9.90 
1993	$7.20 	$3.00 	$10.20 
1994	$7.50 	$4.00 	$11.50 
1995	$7.00 	$4.60 	$11.60 
1996	$7.10 	$5.20 	$12.30 
1997	$7.30 	$5.30 	$12.60 
1998	$7.60 	$5.60 	$13.20 
1999	$8.00 	$5.50 	$13.50 
2000	$8.20 	$7.30 	$15.50 
2001	$8.60 	$8.80 	$17.40 
2002	$8.40 	$10.60 	$19.00 
2003	$8.30 	$12.70 	$21.00 
2004	$7.80 	$14.10 	$21.90 
2005	$7.60 	$13.90 	$21.50 
2006	$7.50 	$13.90 	$21.40 
2007	$7.20 	$13.40 	$20.60 
2008	$6.90 	$12.40 	$19.30 
2009	$6.50 	$10.90 	$17.40 
2010	$6.20 	$10.00 	$16.20
Code:
	1997	1998	1999	2000	2001	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010
VHS	12	12	12.2	11.4	10.9	9.6	6.9	4.4	2.1	0.4	0.1	0.1	0.0	
DVD	0.3	0.5	1.1	2.4	5.3	8.6	13.1	16.7	18.9	20.2	19.7	18.4	16.4	14.8
BD HD	0	0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.3	0.9	1.5	3.0
Dig/VOD	0.5	0.5	0.6	0.7	0.7	0.7	0.7	0.7	0.8	1.0	1.3	1.6	2.1	2.5
TOTAL			13.9	14.5	16.9	19.0	20.7	21.8	21.7	21.6	21.4	21.0	20.0
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^ Thanks. It's pretty interesting looking at those sales numbers.
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"Despicable Me" in 2D is despicable!
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Big releases of the week would put those in context- but I guess 50 Shades Darker wasn't hot enough. Since it's only in 2D and available on 4K, I'm waiting for the price on that to drop a bit. Would've bought the Blu-Ray otherwise.

Done a bunch of international ordering lately for the 3D titles MIA in the US (Xander Cage, Great Wall, Resident Evil and Underworld.)
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Updated thru week ending 5/20/17
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)

Code:
Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2015 TBO2014

2017 HMM    1798.87   -11.4%    1087.34   -14.7%     711.52   -5.8%    39.6%    4039.2  4770.5

Q2   HMM     606.34    -9.6%     348.02    -8.6%     258.30  -11.0%    42.6%    1533.4  1907.8


20  5/20      67.70   -11.9%      41.29   -17.0%      26.41   -2.6%    39.0 %     79.7    61.1
19  5/13      76.67   -28.1%      47.03   -16.6%      29.64  -41.0%    38.7 %    115.0   403.7
18  5/6       71.29   -11.5%      45.76   -16.3%      25.33   -1.5%    35.8 %    114.3   112.8
17  4/29      74.86    -3.5%      44.17   -14.1%      30.68   17.4%    41.0 %    181.6   140.5
16  4/22      70.83   -15.1%      43.41   -16.9%      27.41  -12.2%    38.7 %    171.8   225.2
15  4/15     117.63    32.1%      66.62    26.7%      51.01   40.9%    43.4 %    281.6    26.6
14  4/8      127.36   -18.9%      59.74    -6.2%      67.62  -27.6%    53.1 %    589.4   938.0

Q1   HMM    1192.53   -12.3%     739.32   -17.4%     453.22   -2.5%    38.0%    2505.9  2862.7

13  4/1      112.95    24.4%      60.55    -0.2%      52.40   73.8%    46.4 %    344.2   118.2
12  3/25     103.13   -28.7%      59.67   -35.5%      43.46  -16.7%    42.1 %    340.2   433.9
11  3/18      98.33   -12.1%      62.34   -17.5%      35.99   -0.9%    36.6 %    191.2   295.0
10  3/11     121.64    23.2%      67.49    -0.4%      54.15   74.6%    44.5 %    267.7   162.7
9   3/4      107.76     6.5%      63.76    -7.5%      44.00   36.5%    40.8 %    310.3   184.5
8   2/25      93.03   -12.0%      61.94   -12.3%      31.09  -11.3%    33.4 %    143.1   190.7
7   2/18      89.28    -8.3%      58.05   -14.9%      31.23    7.3%    35.0 %    123.5   101.2
6   2/11      92.58   -23.3%      58.63   -25.2%      33.95  -19.8%    36.7 %    210.1   266.0
5   2/4       78.85   -22.1%      51.94   -20.0%      26.91  -25.8%    34.1 %    159.2   123.2
4   1/28      72.94   -25.9%      47.60   -27.1%      25.34  -23.5%    34.7 %     52.1    97.3
3   1/21      69.27   -31.1%      46.31   -26.5%      22.97  -38.9%    33.2 %    127.6   302.3
2   1/14      75.60   -24.5%      48.94   -19.9%      26.66  -31.6%    35.3 %    191.3   449.5
1   1/7       77.17   -12.5%      52.10    -9.6%      25.07  -18.0%    32.5 %     45.6   138.3

2016 HMM    5453.79    -9.0%    3430.39   -13.5%    2023.41   -0.5%    37.1%   11887.0 10533.0

Q4   HMM    1846.85   -13.1%    1136.34   -13.3%     710.53  -12.9%    38.5%    3565.4  3309.2

52  12/31     94.19   -23.2%      59.19   -22.3%      35.01  -24.7%    37.2 %     69.0   109.1
51  12/24    282.55     1.6%     171.74     1.2%     110.81    2.1%    39.2 %    298.5   105.5
50  12/17    218.73   -17.6%     127.64   -19.2%      91.09  -15.3%    41.6 %    502.4   417.4
49  12/10    179.82   -17.0%     108.07   -14.0%      71.75  -21.2%    39.9 %    538.7   532.3
48  12/3     161.58    -3.7%     100.45    -8.4%      61.13    5.1%    37.8 %    233.7    19.6
47  11/2     280.33    -4.3%     173.78    -9.5%     106.55    5.5%    38.0 %    144.0    87.9
46  11/19    116.00    13.5%      65.09    -3.3%      50.91   45.8%    43.9 %    486.6    52.6
45  11/12     82.80   -24.8%      55.69   -20.7%      27.11  -31.9%    32.7 %    101.2   230.8
44  11/5      92.68   -27.5%      57.51   -25.7%      35.18  -30.3%    38.0 %    295.6   420.1
43  10/29     72.35   -29.5%      50.73   -22.6%      21.62  -41.6%    29.9 %    113.6   217.9
42  10/22     85.81   -35.3%      55.20   -19.1%      30.61  -52.4%    35.7 %    194.6   697.4
41  10/15     92.22   -13.7%      57.73    -9.6%      34.49  -19.8%    37.4 %    347.6   290.2
40  10/8      87.79   -11.6%      53.52   -19.2%      34.27    3.8%    39.0 %    240.2   128.4

Q3   HMM    1062.92    -7.8%     680.69   -14.7%     382.21    7.6%    36.0%    2480.1  2303.8

39  10/1      83.38   -28.0%      50.61   -29.4%      32.77  -25.8%    39.3 %    286.0   650.0
38  9/24      88.47    -6.9%      50.51   -18.8%      37.95   15.6%    42.9 %    158.3   185.3
37  9/17     100.88   -18.7%      56.65   -18.7%      44.22  -12.9%    43.8 %    521.4   584.4
36  9/10      80.07     0.1%      54.37    -7.1%      25.70   19.6%    32.1 %    141.9    43.9
35  9/3       86.79    -2.0%      56.56    -7.8%      30.23   11.0%    34.8 %    420.5   163.8
34  8/27      75.45     3.0%      51.95    -5.7%      23.50   29.4%    31.1 %    103.0    27.9
33  8/20      71.78    -5.7%      50.09   -12.0%      21.69   13.2%    30.2 %    128.5     7.8
32  8/13      65.55   -16.8%      47.80   -18.8%      17.75  -10.8%    27.1 %      4.2    67.2
31  8/6       75.00   -18.8%      51.34   -20.4%      23.66  -15.1%    31.5 %     78.9   166.8
30  7/30      77.19   -11.2%      50.45   -16.7%      26.74    1.3%    34.6 %    145.1   182.1
29  7/23      96.62    25.8%      53.10    -5.4%      43.52  110.3%    45.0 %    345.7     3.7
28  7/16      85.82    -6.5%      55.62   -12.8%      30.20    8.0%    35.2 %    140.2   185.9
27  7/9       75.92    -1.5%      51.64   -11.5%      24.28   29.7%    32.0 %      6.4    35.1

Q2   HMM    1188.41     4.3%     716.43    -9.5%     471.98   35.9%    39.7%    2985.4  1764.1

26  7/2       79.30    -1.7%      54.21   -10.4%      25.08   24.6%    31.6 %    185.8   115.1
25  6/25      77.13     0.6%      52.63    -6.9%      24.50   21.5%    31.8 %     72.4     0.1
24  6/18      98.65     1.9%      61.90    -4.9%      36.75   15.7%    37.3 %    175.5   100.5
23  6/11     107.74    19.3%      60.99    -1.2%      46.75   63.7%    43.4 %    431.8   185.5
22  6/4       76.29   -22.2%      51.94   -20.9%      24.35  -24.7%    31.9 %     73.8   309.0
21  5/28      73.60   -12.0%      49.82   -14.9%      23.78   -5.1%    32.3 %    140.1    23.6
20  5/21      77.54   -26.5%      50.34   -25.8%      27.20  -27.9%    35.1 %     61.1   376.0
19  5/14     107.18    23.1%      56.93    -6.0%      50.25   89.4%    46.9 %    403.3    34.5
18  5/7       81.33   -19.5%      55.32   -17.3%      26.02  -23.7%    32.0 %    112.7   251.6
17  4/30      78.19    -1.6%      52.00    -9.3%      26.19   18.3%    33.5 %    140.1    23.6
16  4/23      84.07     4.5%      52.84    -8.3%      31.23   37.0%    37.1 %    224.9    91.7
15  4/16      89.59    17.2%      53.25    -2.1%      36.34   64.8%    40.6 %     26.6    43.1
14  4/9      157.80    90.2%      64.26     9.0%      93.54  289.4%    59.3 %    937.2     7.8

Q1   HMM    1355.61   -14.1%     896.93   -15.7%     458.69  -10.9%    33.8%    2856.1  3156.0

13  4/2       91.71   -39.0%      61.35   -38.2%      30.35  -40.5%    33.1 %    118.1   333.7
12  3/26     145.35     0.1%      93.05     2.4%      52.30   -3.8%    36.0 %    433.8   498.8
11  3/19     112.95     0.7%      76.44    -0.2%      36.52    2.7%    32.3 %    294.4   260.6
10  3/12      99.52   -16.8%      68.43   -15.6%      31.08  -19.3%    31.2 %    162.6   114.5
9   3/5       86.02   -38.5%      60.05   -34.3%      25.97  -46.3%    30.2 %    184.1   350.9
8   2/27     106.70   -29.5%      71.62   -24.7%      35.08  -37.7%    32.9 %    186.8   303.2
7   2/20      98.44   -18.9%      69.29   -15.6%      29.15  -25.9%    29.6 %    101.2   218.7
6   2/13     122.01    -5.6%      79.65   -12.7%      42.36   11.3%    34.7 %    265.7   126.4
5   2/6      102.48   -15.3%      66.32   -21.2%      36.17   -1.7%    35.3 %    123.0   182.6
4   1/30      99.47   -10.2%      66.32   -11.6%      33.15   -7.1%    33.3 %     97.3   192.7
3   1/23     101.43     1.1%      63.96    -7.1%      37.47   19.2%    36.9 %    302.3   273.7
2   1/16     100.71    12.1%      62.20    -4.4%      38.52   55.4%    38.2 %    448.4   201.4
1   1/9       88.82     0.9%      58.25    -8.5%      30.57   25.4%    34.4 %    138.3    98.7

2015 HMM    5982.0   -11.6%    3959.60   -14.9%    2022.43   -4.6%    33.8%   10548.9 10507.6

Q4   HMM    2120.41    -6.6%    1312.11   -14.9%     808.32   11.2%    38.1%    3308.0  3199.3

52  1/2      122.55     1.1%      76.23    -9.2%      46.32   24.1%    37.8 %    109.1   103.7
51  12/26    278.08     5.8%     170.80    -6.4%     107.28   33.3%    38.6 %    105.5     7.1
50  12/19    265.13   -13.5%     159.63   -22.9%     105.50    5.9%    39.8 %    417.3   343.8
49  12/12    215.99   -13.0%     128.33   -20.5%      87.66    1.0%    40.6 %    532.3   410.0
48  12/5     167.01   -17.8%     108.97   -21.9%      58.04   -8.9%    34.8 %     19.5   291.0
47  11/28    292.88   -11.2%     191.68   -15.3%     101.20   -2.3%    34.6 %     87.9   165.5
46  11/21    101.56   -21.3%      66.89   -26.6%      34.68   -8.4%    34.1 %     52.6   324.7
45  11/14    109.57   -20.8%      69.83   -22.8%      39.74  -17.1%    36.3 %    230.6   391.6
44  11/7     127.41    -1.2%      77.03    -7.4%      50.38   10.2%    39.5 %    419.7   408.6
43  10/31    101.99    14.7%      65.10    -2.2%      36.90   65.0%    36.2 %    217.9    65.1
42  10/24    132.34    41.4%      68.00     1.9%      64.34  139.6%    48.6 %    697.0   157.5
41  10/17    106.67    -5.0%      63.65   -12.6%      43.02    9.2%    40.3 %    290.2   347.5
40  10/10     99.23    -6.7%      65.97    -7.0%      33.26   -6.2%    33.5 %    128.4   183.4

Q3   HMM    1147.35   -13.2%     793.83   -15.3%     353.52   -8.1%    30.8%    2299.4  2295.6

39  10/3     115.56     1.4%      71.34    -3.4%      44.22   10.3%    38.3 %    650.1   278.5
38  9/26      94.73    -2.5%      61.87   -11.4%      32.86   20.1%    34.7 %    184.7   156.0
37  9/19     120.04    -0.2%      69.38   -14.0%      50.66   28.0%    42.2 %    582.4   391.7
36  9/12      79.80   -28.5%      58.35   -20.4%      21.45  -44.0%    26.9 %     43.9   285.5
35  9/5       88.23    -0.7%      61.12   -10.2%      27.11   30.7%    30.7 %    163.6    40.0
34  8/29      73.03   -25.3%      54.90   -23.7%      18.12  -29.9%    24.8 %     27.8    66.3
33  8/22      75.79   -26.7%      56.68   -20.0%      19.12  -41.2%    25.2 %      7.8   217.1
32  8/15      78.42   -21.4%      58.56   -19.0%      19.85  -27.6%    25.3 %     67.1    93.1
31  8/8       92.02   -17.7%      64.19   -18.5%      27.83  -15.9%    30.2 %    166.8   283.1
30  8/1       86.59   -14.0%      60.24   -17.8%      26.35   -3.9%    30.4 %    181.8   187.2
29  7/25      76.44   -23.6%      55.78   -24.6%      20.66  -20.7%    27.0 %      3.7   147.7
28  7/18      91.34    -5.5%      63.42    -9.0%      27.93    3.6%    30.6 %    184.7   134.7
27  7/11      75.36    -5.9%      58.00    -4.7%      17.36   -9.7%    23.0 %     34.9    14.6

Q2   HMM     1136.2   -17.9%     789.33   -18.0%     346.83  -17.5%    30.5%    1763.1  1836.5

26  7/4       80.04   -10.1%      59.99    -9.6%      20.05  -11.6%    25.0 %    115.1     4.7
25  6/27      76.22   -21.3%      56.18   -16.9%      20.04  -31.5%    26.3 %      0.1   121.6
24  6/20      96.47   -18.9%      64.82   -15.8%      31.65  -24.5%    32.8 %    100.5   317.6
23  6/13      90.01   -21.9%      61.54   -19.8%      28.47  -26.0%    31.6 %    185.5   145.4
22  6/6       97.72   -12.0%      65.23   -11.7%      32.49  -12.6%    33.2 %    308.9   243.4
21  5/30      83.37     0.7%      58.42    -3.7%      24.95   12.7%    29.9 %     23.6    23.6
20  5/23     105.56    18.2%      67.81     6.1%      37.74   48.8%    35.8 %    375.9   189.1
19  5/16      86.81     2.2%      60.42    -2.7%      26.39   15.3%    30.4 %     34.3    72.1
18  5/9      100.88    10.2%      66.77    -0.7%      34.11   40.2%    33.8 %    251.6     5.7
17  5/2       79.35   -10.8%      57.24   -12.2%      22.11   -6.8%    27.9 %    225.1    51.6
16  4/25      80.42   -10.4%      57.62   -11.9%      22.80   -6.5%    28.4 %     91.6     0.1
15  4/18      76.44   -56.7%      54.38   -55.8%      22.06  -58.7%    28.9 %     43.1   296.7
14  4/11      82.89   -44.1%      58.91   -37.0%      23.97  -56.2%    28.9 %      7.8   365.0

Q1   HMM    1578.06   -12.1%    1064.33   -11.9%     513.76  -12.4%    32.6%    3178.4  3176.1

13  4/4      150.33    10.2%      99.28     9.4%      51.05   11.8%    34.0 %    332.0   165.9
12  3/28     145.19    -3.0%      90.83    -9.0%      54.36    9.1%    37.4 %    498.8   187.9
11  3/21     112.10   -53.7%      76.52   -45.3%      35.58  -65.1%    31.7 %    260.4   643.5
10  3/14     119.66   -11.6%      81.16   -13.1%      38.50   -8.3%    32.2 %    113.4    66.6
9   3/7      139.83    -1.7%      91.54   -14.1%      48.29  -18.6%    34.5 %    350.9   490.2
8   2/28     151.40    -2.6%      95.11    -3.3%      56.32   -1.4%    37.2 %    303.3   506.5
7   2/21     120.65    -5.2%      82.04    -7.6%      38.61    0.3%    32.0 %    216.5     0.2
6   2/14     129.22   -17.1%      91.16   -18.0%      38.06  -12.9%    29.5 %    126.3   162.8
5   2/7      120.93     3.2%      84.14    -0.7%      36.79   13.4%    30.4 %    184.4   147.1
4   1/31     110.66     0.4%      75.00    -3.0%      35.67    8.3%    32.2 %    192.8   319.5
3   1/24     100.24     4.2%      68.82    -1.4%      31.43   18.8%    31.4 %    273.7   196.0
2   1/17      89.84   -15.3%      65.07   -14.6%      24.76  -17.2%    27.6 %    201.2   261.7
1   1/10      87.99   -10.9%      63.66   -11.4%      24.34   -9.5%    27.7 %    124.8    28.2

2014 HMM    6783.24   -10.1%    4661.69   -11.0%    2121.58   -7.9%    31.3%   10450.6 10589.2

Q4   HMM    2267.71   -14.1%    1540.94   -13.0%     726.79  -16.4%    32.0%    3157.4  3445.0

52  1/3      121.21    -4.4%      83.90    -6.1%      37.31   -0.5%    30.8 %    103.7    24.5
51  12/27    263.04    -3.6%     182.27    -3.0%      80.77   -4.8%    30.7 %      7.1    83.9
50  12/20    306.48   -20.8%     206.91   -21.0%      99.57  -20.5%    32.5 %    343.4   406.9
49  12/13    248.11   -24.8%     161.33   -20.5%      86.78  -31.7%    35.0 %    409.4   618.1
48  12/6     203.22   -11.9%     139.51    -8.0%      63.71  -19.3%    31.4 %    291.0   235.1
47  11/29    329.76   -11.5%     226.35   -10.7%     103.42  -13.4%    31.4 %    165.5    80.0
46  11/22    128.77   -17.6%      90.97   -14.0%      37.81  -25.2%    29.4 %    324.7   354.1
45  11/15    138.26    -8.0%      90.36    -4.8%      47.90  -13.5%    34.6 %    391.5   380.3
44  11/8     128.78     2.9%      83.10    -5.6%      45.68   22.9%    35.5 %    408.5   209.3
43  11/1      88.60   -31.4%      66.32   -24.2%      22.28  -46.6%    25.1 %     65.1   302.2
42  10/25     93.20   -14.2%      66.38   -15.6%      26.82  -10.5%    28.8 %    157.1   212.5
41  10/18    112.00   -14.9%      72.69   -17.5%      39.31   -9.5%    35.1 %    347.4   293.7
40  10/11    106.28   -10.8%      70.85   -12.9%      35.43   -6.1%    33.3 %    182.9   244.6

Q3   HMM    1320.38    -8.6%     935.73    -8.5%     384.66   -9.1%    29.1%    2295.1  2305.5

39  10/4     113.89   -18.5%      73.80   -12.6%      40.09  -27.5%    35.2 %    278.5   288.6
38  9/27      97.15   -22.7%      69.79   -11.9%      27.37  -41.1%    28.2 %    155.7   414.8
37  9/20     120.20     5.5%      80.61     2.8%      39.59   11.5%    32.9 %    391.2   213.6
36  9/13     111.46   -16.0%      73.15   -14.5%      38.31  -18.7%    34.4 %    285.5   239.8
35  9/6       88.74   -18.9%      68.01   -17.8%      20.73  -22.1%    23.4 %     40.0   123.9
34  8/30      97.67   -16.3%      71.81   -15.8%      25.85  -17.5%    26.5 %     67.6   197.5
33  8/23     103.27     0.9%      70.74    -7.8%      32.53   27.1%    31.5 %    217.1   146.6
32  8/16      99.46    -2.2%      72.02    -4.6%      27.44    4.9%    27.6 %     93.1   130.3
31  8/9      111.46     4.8%      78.38     4.2%      33.08    6.2%    29.7 %    283.2   136.9
30  8/2      100.58    -3.3%      73.19    -2.7%      27.40   -4.7%    27.2 %    187.2   125.4
29  7/26      99.91     8.7%      73.88     3.1%      26.03   28.5%    26.1 %    147.6     3.9
28  7/19      96.55    -5.0%      69.59    -8.5%      26.96    5.5%    27.9 %    133.9   159.9
27  7/12      80.04   -19.4%      60.76   -20.2%      19.28  -16.8%    24.1 %     14.6   124.3

Q2   HMM    1381.45    -1.7%     961.09    -5.7%     420.37    8.6%    30.4%    1833.8  1735.1

26  7/5       88.88   -11.2%      66.22   -15.0%      22.66    2.3%    25.5 %      4.6     1.1
25  6/28      96.64    -0.7%      67.38    -8.4%      29.26   23.1%    30.3 %    121.6    78.1
24  6/21     118.84     8.1%      76.92    -2.9%      41.93   36.6%    35.3 %    316.3   135.0
23  6/14     115.15   -21.0%      76.72   -21.8%      38.43  -19.4%    33.4 %    144.9   334.5
22  6/7      110.91    -9.8%      73.74   -15.1%      37.17    3.0%    33.5 %    243.4   325.5
21  5/31      82.78   -10.1%      60.65   -12.9%      22.12   -1.4%    26.7 %     23.6    18.4
20  5/24      89.23   -13.7%      63.85   -15.3%      25.38   -9.3%    28.4 %    189.1    84.8
19  5/17      84.90   -11.9%      62.00   -12.3%      22.89  -10.9%    27.0 %     72.1    61.8
18  5/10      91.35   -22.5%      67.02   -19.8%      24.33  -29.0%    26.6 %      5.7   223.5
17  5/3       88.49   -15.2%      64.85   -14.1%      23.65  -18.2%    26.7 %     51.6   189.7
16  4/26      89.68   -11.1%      65.32   -10.6%      24.37  -12.3%    27.2 %      0.1   113.5
15  4/19     176.28    56.2%     122.89    54.5%      53.39   60.3%    30.3 %    295.8   162.8
14  4/12     148.32    45.2%      93.53    23.4%      54.79  108.0%    36.9 %    365.0     6.4

Q1   HMM    1813.70   -11.6%    1223.93   -14.2%     589.76   -5.7%    32.5%    3164.4  3103.6

13  4/5      136.35     6.0%      90.67    -1.5%      45.68   24.8%    33.5 %    165.9     0.4
12  3/29     149.53   -32.9%      99.72   -35.3%      49.81  -27.6%    33.3 %    187.8   297.1
11  3/22     241.91    18.3%     139.92    11.3%     101.98   29.5%    42.2 %    641.1   618.9
10  3/15     145.68   -10.9%     101.76    -8.6%      43.92  -15.8%    30.1 %     66.6   247.4
9   3/8      165.48   -15.3%     106.21   -20.7%      59.26   -3.4%    35.8 %    488.3   257.6
8   3/1      155.39   -12.4%      98.31   -23.9%      57.09   18.3%    36.7 %    503.8   315.7
7   2/22     127.22   -19.7%      88.74   -16.0%      38.47  -27.0%    30.2 %      0.2   247.3
6   2/15     155.64   -20.7%     111.97   -15.2%      43.67  -31.9%    28.1 %    162.8   368.9
5   2/8      117.08   -18.4%      84.67   -18.6%      32.41  -17.9%    27.7 %    144.0   171.1
4   2/1      118.53    -4.5%      84.08    -5.7%      34.46   -1.4%    29.1%     318.9   221.4
3   1/25      96.17    -7.9%      69.76   -11.4%      26.41    2.7%    27.5%     195.3    47.0
2   1/18     106.11   -10.2%      76.19   -11.5%      29.92   -6.8%    28.2%     261.6   213.6
1   1/11      98.61   -14.2%      71.93   -15.1%      26.68  -11.8%    27.1%      28.2    97.3

2013 HMM    7539.31    -8.3%    5242.51   -13.1%    2296.82    4.9%    30.5%   10668.2 10071.3

Q4   HMM    2766.93    -9.8%    1851.78   -14.0%     915.15    0.1%    33.1%    3728.2  3249.2

53  1/4      126.71   -11.6%      89.22   -14.9%      37.49   -2.5%    29.6%      24.5    67.2
52  12/28    272.62    14.2%     187.84     9.7%      84.77   25.6%    31.1%      83.8    11.9
51  12/21    386.85    -8.2%     261.74   -14.4%     125.11    8.2%    32.3%     406.8   284.4
50  12/14    330.14    -5.5%     203.04   -15.2%     127.10   15.7%    38.5%     617.5   493.4
49  12/7     230.30   -24.6%     151.36   -22.3%      78.94  -28.7%    34.3%     235.1   586.2
48  11/30    372.25    70.3%     253.10    64.6%     119.15   83.8%    32.0%      79.9   133.4
47  11/23    156.10   -60.0%     105.57   -62.3%      50.53  -54.0%    32.4%     354.0    85.0
46  11/16    149.93   -12.3%      94.62   -18.5%      55.31    0.9%    36.9%     376.1   326.6
45  11/9     124.86    -3.7%      87.74    -6.2%      37.12    2.7%    29.7%     209.3   315.0
44  11/2     128.93     2.0%      87.22    -9.4%      41.72   38.1%    32.4%     301.9    93.5
43  10/26    108.04   -27.3%      78.18   -28.3%      29.87  -24.6%    27.6%     212.5   227.0
42  10/19    131.05    -5.6%      87.75   -11.0%      43.30    7.7%    33.0%     293.5   350.8
41  10/12    119.64   -13.2%      81.55   -11.3%      38.09  -16.9%    31.8%     244.6   181.9
40  10/5     129.51   -12.4%      82.85   -14.9%      46.65   -7.6%    36.0%     288.6    93.1

Q3   DEG    1448.64   -13.4%    1011.45   -15.4%     437.19   -8.3%    30.2% (EST)273.9   15.9%(share)
Q3   HMM    1401.22   -14.3%    1010.62   -16.4%     390.58   -8.4%    27.9%    2017.4  2145.2

39   9/28    125.64   -37.1%      79.05   -29.2%      46.59  -47.1%    37.1%     414.8   624.7
38   9/21    113.74    -4.1%      78.15   -13.1%      35.58   24.2%    31.3%     213.5   116.7
37   9/14    132.99    -1.9%      85.34   -15.8%      47.65   39.1%    35.8%     239.8   211.1
36   9/7     108.70     8.9%      80.72   -13.8%      27.98    8.9%    25.7%     123.8    46.5
35   8/31    114.52   -21.0%      84.31   -21.6%      30.21  -19.3%    26.4%     197.5   262.5
34   8/24    102.07   -29.3%      76.50   -28.1%      25.57  -32.7%    25.1%     146.4   105.5
33   8/17    101.24   -31.8%      75.14   -30.9%      26.10  -34.2%    25.8%     130.3   412.4
32   8/10    106.13    -8.3%      75.01   -13.4%      31.12    7.0%    29.3%     136.9   216.2
31   8/3     103.89    10.4%      75.15    -1.7%      28.74   62.5%    27.7%     125.4     0.1
30   7/27     91.47    -3.5%      71.25    -4.9%      20.21    1.8%    22.1%       3.9    18.5
29   7/20    101.61    -3.4%      76.01    -7.2%      25.60    9.8%    25.2%     159.9    81.0
28   7/13     99.26    -5.7%      76.13    -8.7%      23.13    6.0%    23.3%     124.3    59.6
27   7/6      99.96    -8.0%      77.86    -9.5%      22.10   -2.4%    22.1%       1.1     0.5

Q2   DEG    1457.26   -13.0%    1052.97   -16.7%     404.29   -1.5%    27.7% (EST)259.4   15.1%(share)
Q2   HMM    1432.97   -13.2%    1031.66   -17.1%     401.32   -1.3%    28.0%    1777.3  2318.0

26   6/29     97.21   -21.8%      73.46   -20.8%      23.76  -24.7%    24.4%      78.1   350.5
25   6/22    109.92    -5.8%      79.23   -10.9%      30.69   10.7%    27.9%     135.0    98.6
24   6/15    145.76   -10.6%      98.08   -15.6%      47.68    1.9%    32.7%     334.2   275.5
23   6/8     122.79   -19.0%      86.72   -18.2%      36.06  -21.0%    29.4%     325.2   374.1
22   6/1      91.91   -18.9%      69.55   -20.2%      22.36  -14.4%    24.3%      18.4    37.0
21   5/25    103.15    -6.7%      75.17   -10.1%      27.98    3.8%    27.1%      84.8   178.2
20   5/18     96.09   -12.1%      70.43   -15.0%      25.67   -3.1%    26.7%      61.8   200.1
19   5/11    117.72    -5.1%      83.48   -11.5%      34.24   15.4%    29.1%     223.5   187.5
18   5/4     104.34    -4.3%      75.45   -12.1%      28.89   24.7%    27.7%     189.5   105.0
17   4/27    100.75    -4.2%      72.97    -8.6%      27.78    9.8%    27.6%     157.3    67.9
16   4/20    112.75     1.5%      79.45    -3.3%      33.30   14.9%    29.5%     162.8   236.0
15   4/13    102.06    -6.0%      75.74   -12.1%      26.32   17.6%    25.8%       6.4    51.8
14   4/6     128.52   -36.9%      91.93   -41.8%      36.59  -20.0%    28.5%       0.4   155.8

Q1   DEG    2098.83     2.1%    1455.55    -6.7%     643.28   28.5%    30.6% (EST)231.2    9.9%(share)
Q1   HMM    2064.90     2.5%    1437.67    -6.2%     627.26   30.1%    30.4%    3169.8  2426.1

13   3/30    222.64    41.9%     153.75    26.4%      68.89   95.1%    30.9%     294.8   171.2
12   3/23    204.22    35.8%     125.59    14.6%      78.63   92.8%    38.5%     618.7   356.9
11   3/16    163.59    10.3%     111.45    -1.8%      52.15   49.6%    31.9%     244.8   279.2
10   3/9     195.09    19.0%     133.76    10.1%      61.33   44.3%    31.4%     256.6   216.0
9    3/2     177.32    15.9%     129.10    10.1%      48.23   35.0%    27.2%     315.6    82.3
8    2/23    158.25    -1.7%     105.48   -14.7%      52.77   41.6%    33.3%     251.0   274.4
7    2/16    196.00    -6.2%     131.73   -18.6%      64.27   36.6%    32.8%     368.6    16.2
6    2/9     143.36   -30.4%     103.88   -31.5%      39.48  -27.5%    27.5%     171.1   321.4
5    2/2     124.02   -15.3%      89.11   -19.9%      34.91   -0.8%    28.1%     221.2   118.7
4    1/26    104.36   -19.8%      78.68   -18.6%      25.69  -23.2%    24.6%      46.5   226.0
3    1/19    118.15    -7.3%      88.02   -14.7%      32.13   20.7%    27.2%     213.2   114.0
2    1/12    114.83    -8.9%      84.56   -13.8%      30.27    8.1%    26.4%      96.8   116.2
1    1/5     143.07     5.5%     104.56    -0.1%      38.51   24.4%    26.9%      67.2   134.3
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Re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder

Originally Posted by E Unit
We're all obsolete. Good news is that everything old will be new again - and oh so cool.
That's pure bullshit. Hell, Blu-ray disc hasn't even made DVDs obsolete ten years after its introduction. I'm amazed how gullible people can be. Other than inflated cost and black keepcases, most of these releases are no different in image and sound quality than their Blu-ray counterparts. That's just the truth. And those discs that have improved image and sound are really only apparent in ideal viewing and listening environments...I don't know about you, but I have no need to plant my nose 2 feet away from my flat screen. For the most part, this is but a scam to sell the same stuff yet once again to an unsuspecting public. If you wanna buy into UHD go right ahead but don't try to tell people that DVDs are obsolete when they still represent over 60% of packaged media sales. This is all so silly.

Such naiveté.

obsolete |ˌäbsəˈlēt|
adjective
1 no longer produced or used; out of date : the disposal of old and obsolete machinery | the phrase was obsolete after 1625. See note at old .
2 Biology (of a part or characteristic of an organism) less developed than formerly or in a related species; rudimentary; vestigial.
verb [ trans. ]
cause (a product or idea) to be or become obsolete by replacing it with something new : we're trying to stimulate the business by obsoleting last year's designs.

Nothings been replaced, nothing's been disposed but the truth lies in this part of the definition above: "...we're trying to stimulate the business by obsoleting last year's designs.".

Last edited by AaronSch; 06-03-17 at 09:42 AM.

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