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hasslein 02-29-16 12:30 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12738667)
Harmy acknowledged that shot as being problematic and commented that trying to match it to the surrounding footage was the reason the Emperor's face is so dark.

He should've just left it alone. His previous version was fine, given that he is already using the SE Emperor

Ranger 02-29-16 04:12 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 12738858)
Which movie are you referring to? What format?

The "official" versions of each are available as an MKV, AVCHD, or DVD5. The DVD5 isn't going to be over 4.7GB, the MKVs are around 20GB, and the AVCHD are around 8GB.

See info on these Google Docs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...b5ryD4/preview
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1...h.lscnsvqtewg7

Ah, I probably have the unofficial ones. They are ~6.8GB 720p MKVs.

The 20GB "official" MKVs are 1080p?

hanshotfirst1138 03-01-16 07:07 AM

That must be a huge-ass download.

E Unit 03-01-16 07:11 AM

re: Star Wars
 
Well yeah, it's 20 gigs. It took me about 3-4 hours if I recall.

Imail724 03-01-16 03:10 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 12739108)
Ah, I probably have the unofficial ones. They are ~6.8GB 720p MKVs.

The 20GB "official" MKVs are 1080p?

No, they're 720p as well, but they have a ton of audio tracks, so I'm assuming you downloaded one with those removed?

kefrank 03-01-16 04:11 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Imail724 (Post 12740011)
No, they're 720p as well, but they have a ton of audio tracks, so I'm assuming you downloaded one with those removed?

My guess is he found some MKVs that were made from the official AVCHD ISOs, which have audio tracks removed in order for it to fit on a DVD-9.

mrhan 03-02-16 05:51 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Imail724 (Post 12740011)
No, they're 720p as well, but they have a ton of audio tracks, so I'm assuming you downloaded one with those removed?

It's still over 10GB if your remove every option except the Eng track and sub.

Cellar Door 10-16-16 06:38 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Saw this linked on reddit:



Not much to go on, but that one shot looks really good. If/when it gets released into the wild, I wonder how big the file will be.

OldBoy 10-16-16 06:45 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Fuck man, I just can't go 4K right now, but I would mortgage the house for this.

milo bloom 10-16-16 08:16 PM

re: Star Wars
 
I can admire the community for doing something like this, but I have to think that with the franchise out of George's hands, Disney will actually do right by these films. I can totally see a box set of Rogue One plus the unaltered original trilogy in 4K Bluray for the anniversary next spring.

mattysemo247 10-17-16 08:18 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 12923844)
Disney will actually do right by these films. I can totally see a box set of Rogue One plus the unaltered original trilogy in 4K Bluray for the anniversary next spring.


While Disney now owns the rights to the Star Wars universe and all future films going forward, 20th Century Fox has retained the rights to the first six movies. The original film, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, is theirs forever, and they'll own the final five films, Episodes I-III, V and VI, through May 2020.

Jay G. 10-17-16 09:09 AM

re: Star Wars
 
Disney does seem to now own the digital rights to Episodes I-III, V and VI, since they're part of the "Disney Movies Anywhere" program, while Episode IV isn't:

http://furiousfanboys.com/2015/04/fo...e-from-disney/
http://www.thedigitalmediazone.com/2...star-wars-drm/

I have to imagine Disney is working on a deal with Fox for Episode IV, but for now, Fox still owns distribution rights for at least Episode IV.

milo bloom 10-17-16 09:16 AM

re: Star Wars
 
Why do we have to have this same argument everytime? I could guarantee you Fox would have jumped at the chance to release good versions of the original movies, the roadblock was always George.

If Disney tells Fox they want to release these discs, Fox will say "bring it on!" and we'll all win. Fox is not going to be stupid about this.

Jay G. 10-17-16 09:20 AM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 12924085)
If Disney tells Fox they want to release these discs, Fox will say "bring it on!" and we'll all win. Fox is not going to be stupid about this.

Nobody is suggesting the holdup is Fox. Fox would certainly jump at the chance for another Star Wars video release, especially considering how many times they've repackaged the current Blu-ray release.

The suggested holdup is Disney, which may want to wait until it owns the distribution rights for all, or at least the majority, of the titles on home video. It's the idea of them having to share revenue with Fox now, or waiting and getting to keep all, or at least much more, of the revenue later.

milo bloom 10-17-16 12:09 PM

re: Star Wars
 
But doesn't Fox have the rights for ANH in perpetuity? Unless Disney can write a big enough check to Fox to change that, that particular issue is never going away so I don't see Disney missing the 40th anniversary next year.


I wish Disney would find a compromise, like let Fox have the rights to the SE trilogy (1997) version in exchange for the other rights to ANH and the rest.

JoeyOhhhh 10-17-16 12:15 PM

re: Star Wars
 
If Disney went out of their way to get Oswald, I'm sure they are working out a way for Star Wars

Jay G. 10-17-16 12:19 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 12924265)
But doesn't Fox have the rights for ANH in perpetuity? Unless Disney can write a big enough check to Fox to change that, that particular issue is never going away so I don't see Disney missing the 40th anniversary next year...

Again, Disney may be working with Fox about ANH specifically. And even if Disney never buys ANH outright, "share just ANH revenue with Fox" is better than "share revenue from the first 6 films with Fox."

2020 is also the year Episode IX will be released on home video, so it marks a good time for another "Complete Saga" release of all the episodes.

I also don't necessarily see the 40th Anniversary being a huge marketing boost that Disney can't afford to miss out on. At this point they have a lot of new Star Wars films coming out, so capitalizing on the older films isn't as much a priority.


Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 12924265)
I wish Disney would find a compromise, like let Fox have the rights to the SE trilogy (1997) version in exchange for the other rights to ANH and the rest.

That's not going to happen. What's more likely is Disney acquiring distribution rights while giving Fox a revenue share for ANH, similar to what happened with the Marvel films when Disney bought them out from Paramount:
http://deadline.com/2010/10/disney-p...on-deal-76534/

AaronSch 10-17-16 01:04 PM

re: Star Wars
 
I can't imagine watching the original trilogy without the "20th Century Fox" opening title and theme. Every time I see it at the beginning of any movie I am immediately cued into thinking "Star Wars." I hope Disney is wise and retains that as part of the experience when these films are re-released in the future.

JoeyOhhhh 10-17-16 01:36 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by AaronSch (Post 12924309)
I can't imagine watching the original trilogy without the "20th Century Fox" opening title and theme. Every time I see it at the beginning of any movie I am immediately cued into thinking "Star Wars." I hope Disney is wise and retains that as part of the experience when these films are re-released in the future.

They don't. I do wish they'd make their own opening to replace it besides the standard Lucasfilm logo.

Ranger 10-17-16 01:58 PM

re: Star Wars
 
2020 isn't that far away. Disney should be putting out 4k home video by then.

I've learned to like the LFL opening from TFA. I'd be OK if they used it with the older movies.

Ranger 12-29-16 09:15 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Reports say ILM just finished a brand new 4K remaster of A New Hope.

Most likely for the 40th anniversary of Star Wars. Celebration 2017 is in April so they might announce something there.

My questions:

1) what did they use to show the OT in theaters recently? An older 4k transfer?

2) Han shoots first and talks to Jabba in the 1997 ANH SE?

stvn1974 12-29-16 09:22 PM

re: Star Wars
 
Disney has to know how much shit they will get if they only release one of the special edition version for the 40th, right?

Jay G. 12-29-16 09:25 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 12978135)
1) what did they use to show the OT in theaters recently? An older 4k transfer?

Officially? A 2K master of the altered version, likely the one currently on Blu-ray.

Now, there have been some secret screenings of 35mm prints, but those aren't officially authorized screenings.


Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 12978135)
2) Han shoots first and talks to Jabba in the 1997 ANH SE?

No, in the 1997 SE, Greedo shooting first was added (previously, only Han shot), and the deleted scene of Han talking to Jabba was included with a CGI Jabba.

Decker 12-29-16 09:26 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 12978140)
Disney has to know how much shit they will get if they only release one of the special edition version for the 40th, right?

Disney has nothing to do with any future releases of A New Hope, right?

Hailey G 12-29-16 09:40 PM

re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 12978143)
Disney has nothing to do with any future releases of A New Hope, right?

Disney still owns the story and characters, and Fox doesn't really have any license to fuck with it. That was always Lucas's call, and Fox released whatever he asked them to. One would assume that that creative license transferred from Lucas to Disney with the sale.

So Fox can release ANH as often as they like, but they can't mess with it creatively.

Disney can mess with it creatively, but they need Fox to distribute it, unless they come to some other agreement. I have to believe though that if Disney was willing to put up the money for a remaster and let Fox distribute it, Fox would be more than happy to do so under the current agreement.

That actually goes for all of the films produced by Lucas until 2020. Everything except the original film reverts to Disney then.


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