Star Wars
08-07-13 | 09:19 PM
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re: Star Wars
http://savestarwars.com/lucas-nfr.html
While both STAR WARS (1977) and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) are on the National Film Registry, the Library has not yet acquired new prints of either one. When the request was made for STAR WARS, Lucasfilm offered us the Special Edition version. The offer was declined as this was obviously not the version that had been selected for the Registry. We have not yet requested a print of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, added to the Registry late last year [2010].
The Library of Congress does hold the original release versions of STAR WARS, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI, but these 35mm prints were acquired as copyright deposits in March 1978, October 1980, and June 1983 respectively. All three are classified as archival masters and as such cannot be accessed for viewing/research. The existing condition reports for STAR WARS and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (there is no report for RETURN OF THE JEDI) indicate that the former has minor scratches but is in good shape overall, while the latter has extreme color fading. We also have an additional 35mm print of the original STAR WARS (received June 1979) with English subtitles for the deaf.
The Library of Congress does hold the original release versions of STAR WARS, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI, but these 35mm prints were acquired as copyright deposits in March 1978, October 1980, and June 1983 respectively. All three are classified as archival masters and as such cannot be accessed for viewing/research. The existing condition reports for STAR WARS and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (there is no report for RETURN OF THE JEDI) indicate that the former has minor scratches but is in good shape overall, while the latter has extreme color fading. We also have an additional 35mm print of the original STAR WARS (received June 1979) with English subtitles for the deaf.
08-08-13 | 07:54 AM
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Oh wow, that Library of Congress story is RIDICULOUS. Your film has the high honor of being chosen for preservation and you try to turn over your revisionist version of it? I'm now convinced he just doesn't get it.
08-08-13 | 05:32 PM
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And now there's an upcoming comic book series based on George Lucas original screenplay of "The Star Wars."
Watch trailer here: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107565
Watch trailer here: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107565
08-08-13 | 09:30 PM
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08-09-13 | 08:04 AM
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From: The Cabin in the Woods
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Now more than ever. Resisting fan pressure to release a version of your films because you have a skewed idea that the new versions are somehow superior, I can somewhat understand the reasoning even if I disagree with it. Handing in a modified version of your film when it's been selected for preservation for being 'historically significant'? That's a whole other level of crazy.
08-09-13 | 08:11 AM
#3306
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Now more than ever. Resisting fan pressure to release a version of your films because you have a skewed idea that the new versions are somehow superior, I can somewhat understand the reasoning even if I disagree with it. Handing in a modified version of your film when it's been selected for preservation for being 'historically significant'? That's a whole other level of crazy.
http://savestarwars.com/lucasspeecha...aledition.html
A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history...
...It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires...
...In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.
...It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires...
...In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.
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08-09-13 | 09:00 AM
#3308
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re: Star Wars
Lucas never delivered prints of the original versions of Star Wars and ESB to the LoC for the National Film Registry. Instead, he tried to give them prints of the SE, which they refused:
http://savestarwars.com/lucas-nfr.html
The one glimmer of hope is that Lucasfilm seems to employ a lot of people who are passionate about these films, and would like to see the OOT released. Reportedly the reason we got the OOT on DVD at all, even if just in a letterboxed transfer taken from an old Laserdisc master, is because people inside the company were urging Lucas to do it. Now with Lucas gone, it's possible these same people can push for a restoration.
http://savestarwars.com/lucas-nfr.html
The one glimmer of hope is that Lucasfilm seems to employ a lot of people who are passionate about these films, and would like to see the OOT released. Reportedly the reason we got the OOT on DVD at all, even if just in a letterboxed transfer taken from an old Laserdisc master, is because people inside the company were urging Lucas to do it. Now with Lucas gone, it's possible these same people can push for a restoration.
And now there's an upcoming comic book series based on George Lucas original screenplay of "The Star Wars."
Watch trailer here: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107565
Watch trailer here: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107565
But I also wanted to say it's these two things, the idea that the LFL staff hasn't all drank the koolaid and this old story is being allowed to be used that's giving me a glimmer of hope that we'll see the originals in the near future. Even if the majority of the movie buying and viewing public don't know the difference, there's still a very loud minority that's keeping it in the conversation and releasing something like this would create a lot of goodwill for the franchise.
Disney said they'd be calling the shots if they bought LFL, they may be giving it enough time so it doesn't look like their crapping on George's old ideas, but I'm fairly confident that we'll see these.
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08-09-13 | 12:44 PM
#3311
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What's worse is that Lucas understands the importance of preserving the original versions of films, just not his own.
http://savestarwars.com/lucasspeecha...aledition.html
http://savestarwars.com/lucasspeecha...aledition.html
08-09-13 | 04:34 PM
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In his mind, Lucas rationalizes that his argument was against studios (the "copyright holders") altering movies without the participation of or against the wishes of the original filmmakers. But since he is the original filmmaker, he can do whatever the hell he wants to his movie whenever he wants to.
08-10-13 | 05:35 AM
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re: Star Wars
My personal favorite "Lucas farming out work" story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U
A Lynch-helmed Jedi might have fascinating, especially if they could have successfully combined Lynch's strong visual style with Lucas' strength in straightforward narrative.
A Lynch-helmed Jedi might have fascinating, especially if they could have successfully combined Lynch's strong visual style with Lucas' strength in straightforward narrative.
08-10-13 | 10:32 AM
#3314
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re: Star Wars
He was still the guiding creative force behind all six movies. But anyway, point being that he's a hypocrite.
08-10-13 | 06:33 PM
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My personal favorite "Lucas farming out work" story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U
A Lynch-helmed Jedi might have fascinating, especially if they could have successfully combined Lynch's strong visual style with Lucas' strength in straightforward narrative.
A Lynch-helmed Jedi might have fascinating, especially if they could have successfully combined Lynch's strong visual style with Lucas' strength in straightforward narrative.
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08-10-13 | 08:23 PM
#3316
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Lynch directed Jedi would have been amazing. At the end you would find out that instead of being brother and sister that Luke and Leia were were the same person.
08-12-13 | 06:17 AM
#3317
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re: Star Wars
I also thought it was disrespectful to take out actual actors from scenes in ESB & ROTJ. To delete Clive Rivell from the Emperor's only scene in ESB and delete Sebastian Shaw (who died in 1994) from the Ghost Scene comes off as a huge F-You to those actors. I would like to know if Rivell still gets residuals from ESB since he is not in the movie anymore?
It's one thing to change special effects, and its another thing to delete actual actors from the movies.
08-12-13 | 07:33 AM
#3318
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re: Star Wars
Wouldn't "deleting" an actor be about on par with cutting the only scene they were in?
08-12-13 | 08:06 AM
#3319
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re: Star Wars
Lucas did leave Shaw in the final scene with Luke when he is unmasked, but was deleted in the force ghost scene. You're right about Rivell as he was cut from the only scene he was in ESB.
08-12-13 | 12:14 PM
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08-12-13 | 01:15 PM
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George Lucas has a new baby girl
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/p...erest/2642649/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/p...erest/2642649/
George Lucas and his wife, Ariel Investments president Mellody Hobson, are the parents of a daughter, born via surrogate, according to the Huffington Post.
The child, given the lofty name of Everest Hobson Lucas, arrived on Friday. She joins Lucas' older kids Amanda, 32; Katie, 25; and Jett, 20.
Lucas, 69, and Hobson, 44, got hitched June 22 at Skywalker Ranch in Marin County, California.
Surrogacy has been in the news of late. Jimmy Fallon and wife Nancy Juvonen also just had a daughter, Winnie Rose, born via surrogate. Elizabeth Banks' two boys were also born via surrogate, as were Sarah Jessica Parker's twin daughters.
The child, given the lofty name of Everest Hobson Lucas, arrived on Friday. She joins Lucas' older kids Amanda, 32; Katie, 25; and Jett, 20.
Lucas, 69, and Hobson, 44, got hitched June 22 at Skywalker Ranch in Marin County, California.
Surrogacy has been in the news of late. Jimmy Fallon and wife Nancy Juvonen also just had a daughter, Winnie Rose, born via surrogate. Elizabeth Banks' two boys were also born via surrogate, as were Sarah Jessica Parker's twin daughters.
08-12-13 | 09:53 PM
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Dude's crazy like a fox. I guarantee you restored and remastered versions of the originals exist and were done when the SE's were remastered for Blu.
By having the SE's, he's created a whole other product. They'll cram the SE's down our throat again in 3d eventually and we'll all buy them. Then, a few years later, they'll come out with the Un-altered originals and we'll all buy them again. Then, a few years after that, 3d versions of the originals.
He knows what we want. But he also knows we'll buy the crappy SE's until originals are finally released. It's a whole other "product" he's created.
However, now that Kennedy is in charge, I don't know if she's up for those games. She seems to be very no-nonsense. She's pretty much dis-owning the prequels and seems to be very pro-original trilogy. She's also shrewd enough to know she'd look like a savior to SW fans if she'd release the originals.
By having the SE's, he's created a whole other product. They'll cram the SE's down our throat again in 3d eventually and we'll all buy them. Then, a few years later, they'll come out with the Un-altered originals and we'll all buy them again. Then, a few years after that, 3d versions of the originals.
He knows what we want. But he also knows we'll buy the crappy SE's until originals are finally released. It's a whole other "product" he's created.
However, now that Kennedy is in charge, I don't know if she's up for those games. She seems to be very no-nonsense. She's pretty much dis-owning the prequels and seems to be very pro-original trilogy. She's also shrewd enough to know she'd look like a savior to SW fans if she'd release the originals.
08-12-13 | 11:31 PM
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08-12-13 | 11:57 PM
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re: Star Wars
By having the SE's, he's created a whole other product. They'll cram the SE's down our throat again in 3d eventually and we'll all buy them. Then, a few years later, they'll come out with the Un-altered originals and we'll all buy them again. Then, a few years after that, 3d versions of the originals.
He knows what we want. But he also knows we'll buy the crappy SE's until originals are finally released. It's a whole other "product" he's created.
He knows what we want. But he also knows we'll buy the crappy SE's until originals are finally released. It's a whole other "product" he's created.