Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 10939222)

I just wanted to point out that my dislike for the PT has nothing to do with expectations, or my personal fantasy of what it "should have been" and everything with the films being overall mediocre to terrible movies. TPM in particular has an atrocious plot that is both dumb and convoluted, terrible pacing, bad acting and tin-eared dialogue. Not to mention one of the single most grating characters ever put on the big screen.

Now, I Love the original Star Wars, but I can admit it's not perfect. TPM, on the other hand, is just on a whole other level of bad. I will admit that the effects are visually impressive in places, but parts like the space battle at the end, while visually impressive, just aren't as tension-filled and exciting as the original trench battle. And if I ever just rewatched a part of TPM, it'd be the Darth Maul end lightsaber battle, but one impressive fight sequence does not a good movie make.

I agree that "no movie could live up to the nostalgia felt for the OT," but even with severely reduced expectations, the PT still fall short. I mean, I went into Ep3 with about as low as expectations could go, and even then I cringed at many places in it.

Originally Posted by Labor (Post 10939268)

TPM doesnt really abuse/overuse CGI at all

Originally Posted by Labor (Post 10939268)

TPM doesnt really abuse/overuse CGI at all

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 10939277)

What I want to know is if ANYONE has found any other Easter Eggs than the Boba Fett cartoon? We were given the impression that there were multiple eggs on the discs, but that seems to be the only one. I was hoping at least we'd find some hidden trailers or something.

Originally Posted by Kal-El (Post 10939310)

There is ONE shot in the whole movie that doesn't have any CG enhancement. ONE. How the hell is that not an abuse/overuse of CGI?

Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 10936158)

Who gives a flying fuck what the sales numbers are? No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.*

If you wanted a $90 warmed-over turd in 1080p, you got one. Congratulations. For me, there is no price point that could entice me to add this to my collezione.

*H.L. Mencken

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10939338)

what shot?

Originally Posted by Labor (Post 10939268)

TPM doesnt really abuse/overuse CGI at all

Originally Posted by Kal-El (Post 10939441)

At the beginning when the 2 Jedi start to get gassed in the conference room. The close up shot of the vent with the gas coming out of it is the one I'm talking about. Only reason I know is they make a big deal of it in the commentary.

Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 10939263)

+1 to pretty much everything here.

The main reasons that TPM is so bad (in my opinion) are:
-- The non-sensical and uninteresting plot
-- Weak direction and editing
-- Overuse/abuse of CGI
-- Jar Jar Binks

The Phantom Menace is just not a very good movie, period, and unlike the OT, most of its flaws are not even remotely charming/endearing in nature.

Originally Posted by Trout (Post 10939553)

I think the Red Letter Media/Plinkett reviews of all three films pretty much sums up why all 3 suck so bad.

Originally Posted by Trout (Post 10939553)

I think the Red Letter Media/Plinkett reviews of all three films pretty much sums up why all 3 suck so bad.

Originally Posted by Trout (Post 10939553)

I think the Red Letter Media/Plinkett reviews of all three films pretty much sums up why all 3 suck so bad.

Originally Posted by packaok (Post 10940349)

Well, it looks like you haters are going to continue to gripe and moan. That's your loss because you are costing yourselves an unbelievably awesome experience.

Personally, if I could only keep one Blu-ray or DVD title and was forced to get rid of the rest of my collection, I would keep the Star Wars Saga. It's that good. However, you haters choose to turn a blind eye to that and it's very pathetic and sad.

Originally Posted by mcnabb (Post 10940554)

If you enjoy the SE & PT movies thats cool with me, but please don't call people like me a hater. I'm not wasting 90 bucks on 3 PT movies I could care less about, and 3 SE/OT movies that annoy me because of the stupid changes.

Whats sad and pathetic is people like you who call fans like me 'haters' because I don't enjoy all the new changes, and people on my side who call fans idiots because they like the PT and SE movies.

Plain and simple, the SE don't work for me, why am I a hater??? Godfather III didn't work me? Superman III & IV didn't work for me? Rocky V didn't work for me? Am I a hater for all those movies too?

Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 10939295)

I disagree. Perhaps it's a matter of taste, but the way CGI was used in TPM (and all the prequels, really) makes it feel disconnected from the established Star Wars universe and actually kept me from being more invested in the action on a number of occasions. I can't deny that some of the CGI is dazzling and awesome, but Lucas carried it too far and lost me.